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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 01:22 PM
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Rehnquist backs medical marijuana patients
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Rehnquist backs medical marijuana patients

Associated Press


WASHINGTON - Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist, who is fighting thyroid cancer, disagreed with Monday's Supreme Court ruling that allows federal prosecutions of ill medical marijuana users.

Rehnquist, 80, joined a dissent written by Justice Sandra Day O'Connor that said that states should be allowed to set their own policies for marijuana use.

O'Connor, who has had breast cancer, said that states should decide on their own "the difficult and sensitive question of whether marijuana should be available to relieve severe pain and suffering."

Two court members who have had cancer voted with the Bush administration: John Paul Stevens, who had prostate cancer, and Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who was treated for colon cancer.

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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 01:22 PM
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1. Well sure now. He needs it.
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Iowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 02:41 PM
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21. I don't give Rehnquist that much credit...
Whenever he comes down on the right side of any issue, it's probably for the wrong reasons. I doubt that it had anything to do with helping sick people, or suddenly seeing the light because he is sick. That would require empathy.

This reminds me of a columnist who made a comment about Rehnquist when he was first appointed; I memorized one of the lines in that column:

"He is undoubtedly very bright, in an academic sort of way, but his brilliance is a cold thing that shimmers without the warmth of wisdom or compassion, and therefore serves no purpose."

That sums up the entire life of this small, self-centered man. The world will be a better place without his presence in it.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 01:24 PM
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2. Clarence "Longdong" Thomas dissented as well....
Those three conservatives voted for state's rights.

Its the first time I can agree with Clarence Thomas.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 01:30 PM
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6. How many times has Thomas dissented from Scalia?
This has to be highly unusual, at the very least.
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Mitt Chovick Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 01:36 PM
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10. More often than you think,
and when they do Thomas is right. He's much more the libertarian, while Scalia has a statist streak.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 03:24 PM
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28. Self-delete.
Edited on Mon Jun-06-05 03:25 PM by tx_dem41
Self-delete.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 02:28 PM
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18. Thomas always votes on the side of porn, too.
I wonder if he still patronizes that video store where the clerk remembered him.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 01:25 PM
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3. Its always interesting how things change when you get ill!!!
Your perception changes!!!
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 01:35 PM
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9. It usually takes something like this
For a conservative to see the light.

A conservative opposes medicinal marijuana...until they're the one suffering from the miserable pain of cancer.

A conservative opposes abortion...until it's their 15 year old daughter that got knocked up.

A conservative hates lawyers...until they get arrested.


And on the list goes.

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AlGore-08.com Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 01:26 PM
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4. To paraphrase John Stewart...
A Republican who supports science is one who's either gotten sick or knows somebody who has...
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 01:27 PM
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5. It's easy to stand on a self-righteous soapbox
When it's not you that's suffering.

I guess Mr. Chief Justice has learned first hand that prattling about the morality of medicinal marijuana is sheer sophistry.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 01:32 PM
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7. we need to lobby Congress to change the law
I'm not surprised by Renquist here .

I do find it sad that I believe he wouldn't
of cared so much if he wasn't ill .

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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 01:34 PM
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8. It will only change when Big Pharma figures out how to market it.
Once they figure out how to profit from medicinal marijuana, it'll be thru the FDA so fast we won't even know it happened.

Until then, fuggedaboutit.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 01:40 PM
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12. there's always marinol
or whatever the name of that stuff is--it's basically THC in a pill form

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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 02:08 PM
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16. Costs $500 a month to buy from Big Pharma
That's what it's all about. The Hokey-Pokey.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 02:40 PM
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20. and how does that compare to an equal amount of pot?
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 02:45 PM
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22. Factor of ten
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 02:59 PM
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23. so you're paying $50 bucks for the equal amount
of pot?

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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 03:14 PM
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25. First, I'm not a medical marijuana user
I know people who are.

There is no way that a single sick person could or would need $500 a month or $6,000 a year worth of pot.

Ten percent of that amount would be more than enough.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 01:39 PM
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11. This could have been the gateway to much nastier things
I dislike using the "slippery slope" argument, but if the SCOTUS set a precedent allowing states to reject federal laws by referendum, then what happens to all the various environmental regulations, consumer protections, and the minimum wage law?

That good people whose crime is illness will suffer additionally because of this is a tragedy. But Stevens' concurrence is accurate; the law must be remedied at the federal level before it can be modified or ignored by the states.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 01:50 PM
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14. But the GOP hypes itself as the party of 'states rights' ....
...except for when it isn't in the interest of their agenda.

That's called hypocrisy.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 02:13 PM
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17. Only Scalia hypocrited on this one
O'Conner, Rehnquist, and Thomas all took the states' rights position. Of course, some may see some irony in Thomas upholding the legal position that made Jim Crow law possible, but at least it is ideologically consistent.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 01:47 PM
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13. Do I see the tide turning or what?


Please tell me they are seeing the light.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 01:53 PM
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15. woops!
it's time for him to go! :sarcasm:
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 02:37 PM
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19. My goodness
they are certainly a cancerous group.
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 03:00 PM
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24. This is a states' rights issue, pure and simple
It's no surprise that the states' rights justices voted the way they did. Scalia, of course, voted to screw anything moderately liberal, but Thomas, Rhenquist and O'Connor voted more states' rights, while the balance voted Federal rights.

Pretty standard outcome, actually.

david
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The Gunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 03:16 PM
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26. Confused
I thought Republicans didn't like big government, and wanted states to be able to handle thier own business...not anymore I guess.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 03:29 PM
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29. Why are you confused?
The three judges who voted FOR state's rights (and dissented in this decisions) were Republicans.

Now, if they had felt this way in 2000, the world would be different.
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 03:17 PM
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27. DUDES!
"Rehnquist, 80, joined a dissent written by Justice Sandra Day O'Connor that said that states should be allowed to set their own policies for marijuana use."

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