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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:23 AM
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McCain Says Deal With Dems Was Needed to Stop Judicial Filibusters
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McCain Says Deal With Dems Was Needed to Stop Judicial Filibusters
June 7, 2005


The Associated Press
Detroit Free Press


The deal reached by a bipartisan group of senators over judicial nominees was necessary to stop Democrats from shutting down the U.S. Senate with filibusters, U.S. Sen. John McCain said.

The Arizona Republican said the filibusters threatened to block votes on the judges - including four from Michigan that President Bush wants to appoint to the U.S. 6th Circuit Court of Appeals - by weeks, months or even years.

"I know that many of you are skeptical," McCain told Macomb County Republicans Monday night at their annual Lincoln Day Dinner. "But I know that many of the judges from Michigan will not be filibustered."

Although there was no promise to end the filibuster on Saad, McCain said Monday he supports the Michigan judge and will do everything he can to get him an up or down vote.

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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:31 AM
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1. in this case the corrupt mcain is right
the dems gave everything away, and got nothing in return

it is better to fight and lose on principle than not fight at all
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:43 AM
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2. For what it's worth
the deal did weaken Frist and by extension the fundies who were supporting him. That's why the fundies got so mad.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:45 AM
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3. I still don't see how it weakened any of them
They're still getting everything they wanted. Owen has now been sworn in. God help the 5th Circuit...
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 11:27 AM
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4. actually, Satan already owns the 5th

The Supreme Court has recently overturned death penalty cases that come to it from the 5th without even bothering with a hearing and remanded stuff to it with comments that are the federal judiciary equivalent of paddlings. Things are that bad. If you check around the Net, the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals (MD/VA/NC, packed by Jesse Helms) is considered the most reactionary; it writes verdicts the Supreme Court tends to uphold, so losing in the Fourth is bad news. The Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals is half as clever- arguable just a bunch of pliant hacks/morons protecting the interests of the Dallas oil patch and the way it runs Texas via the Texas Republican Party- and its consistently bad verdict writing turns out to be a solace for people it screws on social and criminal rights cases, which ups it in the internal rating scheme.

Oh, the full deal with the Fifth. Generally the Supreme Court doesn't take cases that deal with financial rights and damages from the appellate court level, so if you sue, say, a Texas oil company or well connected scam like Halliburton or Enron you're hopelessly screwed if things get to the Fifth CCoA. That's entirely the point of stacking it their way, as Texas 'business' has generally achieved. The lawyer scuttlebut on Owen was along the lines of "she's not actually going to make the Fifth any worse." Brown, on the other hand, does seem likely to tip the Third (DC) worse than the average Republican bias it already has.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 03:15 PM
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5. I just meant that because of the compromise
the Fundies got mad and held Frist responsible for not keeping the Republicans in line. The Fundies want a theocracy where no one questions the Master's (Bush's) will. Frist allowed a fissure in the Repub wall to be seen by the masses.
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 04:04 PM
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6. I don't think they are holding him so responsible.
The admittedly little bit that I have seen seems to indicate that they admire him for allegedly sticking to his guns, but the compromisers are traitors.

From a recent News(sic)max email:

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Please find below an important message from the RightMarch.com PAC, the conservative Web site leading the charge for "Patriotism in Action." They have some important information to share with you regarding the recent "compromise deal" over judicial filibusters - and what YOU can do to punish the compromisers. Please take action right away on this important issue.

Punish the Senate Filibuster Compromisers!

ALERT: By now, I'm sure you've heard about the so-called "deal" put together by "moderate" Democrats and Republicans in the U.S. Senate, which will stop Sen. Frist from putting a halt to the Democrats' unconstitutional judicial filibusters but will allow a few of President Bush's nominees to be voted on and confirmed.

This "deal" was nothing less than a BETRAYAL of our President, the Senate Republican Leaders...and the United States Constitution.
...

The "Gang of Seven" Republican turncoats IGNORED you, IGNORED their constituents, IGNORED their duty... and IGNORED the U.S. Constitution.

So now they should pay the political price.

Out of the seven GOP turncoats (McCain, Graham, DeWine, Warner, Chafee, Collins, Snowe), THREE of them are up for re-election in 2006. Out of the seven Democrat "deal-makers" (Nelson, Byrd, Landrieu, Salazar, Pryor, Lieberman, Inouye), TWO of them are from "red states" and are up for re-election also.

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