Iraq insurgents 'ready to disarm'

[ECH1969]

A prominent Iraqi Sunni politician has said that two insurgent groups are ready to disarm and begin talks with the Iraqi government.
Former minister Ayham al-Samarie said the Islamic Army in Iraq and the Mujahideen Army represented more than 50% of the resistance.

He said he began contacting the groups' political leaders five months ago.

Truce possible

Mr Samarie, who also discussed his contacts on the Dubai-based al-Arabiya satellite network, told AP he had not met any of the field commanders of the two groups.

He said no deal had been made on disarming, but a truce of limited duration could be arranged to prove their goodwill after talks began.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4070080.stm
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Sure... Why is it I doubt it.

[TheFarseer]

1. I hope to God it's true

but I'm not holding my breath. We can't negotiate with these "terrorists" anyway can we?

[Imagevision]

11. R-i-g-h-t! > over 730 iraqi civilians dead since elections were held

and bozo claims he's been talking for 5 months??

[Teaser]

2. This dude is just trying to make himself important.

Seriously, he's been saying this shit for months. I've seen his name in stories like this for ages.

[ECH1969]

8. Even if it were true

These two groups are certainly aren't 50% of the insurgency. Ansar al-Sunna and al-Qadea are the ones behind the vast majority of daily suicide attacks. These two are domestic Sunnis that have made the news with their attacks once or twice at best.

[Catfight]

3. Riiiiiiiiight......... nt

[merwin]

4. Haven't they been telling us that the insurgency is 100% Al Queda?

[okieinpain]

28. yes, that's what I was thinking.

[Barrett808]

5. Highly, highly unlikely

The insurgency is enjoying great success on the battlefield. There is no reason in the world for them to surrender.

[Roland99]

6. He's the Minister of Electricity!!

[geek tragedy]

7. Is he related to Baghdad Bob? eom

[wtmusic]

9. Condition #1: US out of Iraq

Bingo...no more truce

[Supersedeas]

12. end the foreign occupation and the rebels end the rebellion

[Jacobin]

15. That would be it in a nutshell

[wallwriter]

10. Let's see. Should I blow myself up in the name of Allah to reach paradise

and murder the crusading devils, or should a peacefully negotiate a truce? Sounds realistic...

[llmart]

13. Oh, well, I guess it's over then.....

Yeah, right. What a crock of s***.

[ckramer]

14. Yeah, this is true until it is not...to paraphrase a comedian...

We'll see...

[daleo]

16. He thinks he has bought off a couple of guys

Hardly the same thing as "insurgents ready to disarm".

The key phrase: "he had not met any of the field commanders of the two groups."

More likely this is a propaganda effort, to either:
- provide political cover for a U.S. offensive ("they are so close to disarming, we just need the big push")
or
- attempt to sew discord within the resistance ("some of us are ready to cut a deal, maybe I should be first").

Probably it is meant to do both things, and will succeed at neither.

[CoffeeCat]

17. There are tons of syrupy, warm-fuzzy Iraq stories---

...coming out lately.

They are all a sham.

They're all designed to deflect attention from the disgusting, horrendous quagmire that we've created there--which only continues to worsen.

I'm sick of the "And NOW!! The newest and GREATEST, American-led offensive to date!" stories.

This administration is in big trouble over dozens of issues. They're losing in Iraq and their solution is to disseminate non-news and lies--in order to make this cauldron of failure look wonderful and glorious.

Lipstick on a cockroach.

[plasticsundance]

18. Now wait just a moment

Are they insurgents, resistance fighters, or terrorists? Check this out. Centcom better figure out the language they want to use during negotiations.

Convoy attacked west of Baghdad

Baghdad , Iraq – A convoy of contractors was attacked by terrorists at 11:30 a.m. June 7, while they were delivering supplies for Coalition forces west of here.

A Coalition forces quick reaction force responded to the scene of the attack and secured the area.

No further information is available at this time.

http://www.mnf-iraq.com/Releases/June/050607e.htm">Convoy attacked west of Baghdad

My emphasis.

[realFedUp]

19. Smart move...nt

[snot]

20. If you appreciate the BBC as we've known it, PLS go to this link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=376080&mesg_id=376080

[Media_Lies_Daily]

21. A prominent Iraqi Sunni bs artist.

[applegrove]

22. Official: Rebels Open to Talk With Iraq

Official: Rebels Open to Talk With Iraq

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050608/D8AJASBG0.html

Jun 8, 4:36 AM (ET)

By HAMZA HENDAWI

-- Snip --

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - A Sunni Arab politician said Tuesday two insurgent groups were willing to negotiate with the government, possibly opening a new political front in embattled Iraq. But a string of coordinated deadly bombings signaled that militants remain fierce.

The former Cabinet minister said he had established contact with the groups which account for a large part of the Sunni insurgents and were responsible for attacks against Iraqis and foreigners, including assassinations and kidnappings.

It was the first public disclosure that such negotiations might be in the offing with specific groups, but independent confirmation was not possible. Al-Jaafari's government declined comment."

-- Snip --

Associated Press writers Yehia Barzanji in Kirkuk, Iraq, contributed to this report

[LightningFlash]

23. Yeah the Iraq rebels want to say the following.....

"Get out of our country right now, and leave us alone!!!!"

They don't want to be occupied anymore by corrupt, religious oil companies. :mad: :mad:

The corrupt Iraqis are probably saying "We'll give you free incentives, land, and a no-bid contract for exxon mobil if you quietly.........remove yourselves and give us control of the country."

[leftchick]

24. which begs the question

how many more rebel groups to go? 2? 15? 151? This is such horseshit.

Bring the Troops HOME!

[applegrove]

26. Dang! I was hoping there was no propaganda in this. One can always

hope!

[Teaser]

25. Almost certainly not true.

This guy is just tooting his own horn. He hasn't even talked to any of the captains in the insurgency, by his own admission. Move along.

[deliusmax]

27. I wouldn't be surprised it if had some truth in it..

There have been so many reports on Sunni groups willing to negotiate in the last months, on news sites ranging from al-jazeera to the bbc.

There is only one minor problem: They always demand a timetable for the complete withdrawal of US troops (sometimes that's their ONLY demand), and that's exactly something the american puppet government can't give them.

Can you imagine a conversation between a Sunni tribal leader and a U.S. general?
Sunni: "So Iraq is free of WMD's, Saddam is removed from power and in jail and there have been elections. All your objectives in this war have been met. Now we promise you peace and stability if you leave, so why don't you just leave?"
American General:"Well, you see, I can see how you might say that, but those were not our real objectives...Our real objectives were to BUILD FOURTEEN PERMANENT MILITARY BASES, CREATE A PERMANENT MILITARY PRESENCE IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND STAY HERE UNTIL THE LAST DROP OF OIL HAS LEFT THE COUNTRY"