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Greylyn58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 12:31 PM
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Customs Lets Man In U.S., But Takes Bloody Chainsaw, Sword
Edited on Tue Jun-07-05 12:33 PM by Greylyn58
Man Suspected After Grisly Death Scene Found

POSTED: 12:24 pm EDT June 7, 2005

BOSTON -- On the morning of April 25, Gregory Despres hitchhiked to the Canadian border crossing at Calais, Maine, carrying a homemade sword, a hatchet, a knife, brass knuckles and a chain saw stained by what appeared to be blood.

Customs officials confiscated the cache of weapons and fingerprinted Despres, but allowed him to enter the United States -- not knowing the gruesome scene about to unfold in the hitchhiker's hometown.

The following day, in the village of Minto, New Brunswick, the decapitated body of a well-known country musician named Frederick Fulton was discovered on his kitchen floor. Police found the 74-year-old man's head in a pillow case under a kitchen table and the body of his common-law wife, Veronica Decarie, stabbed to death in a bedroom.

A history of violence between Despres and his neighbors immediately made him a suspect in the murders, and the 22-year-old was arrested April 27 after police in Massachusetts saw him wandering down a highway, wearing a sweatshirt with red and brown stains.

<snip>

This is insane. Bush claims he's keeping us safe, yet someone enters through our borders carrying these items and THEY LET HIM COME IN??

How is this keeping us safe?? :grr:

http://www.wsoctv.com/news/4579376/detail.html
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 12:34 PM
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1. I presume he wasn't arabic looking...
...or might have otherwise been profiled as Islamic.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 12:42 PM
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7. we helped him kill 300,000 sending him chemicals for WMD's does that count
it should count some.. Chaney got rich on it...should count toward him too
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 12:35 PM
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2. What's your problem? They took the chainsaw away!
He couldn't be any more of a threat after that. I mean, it's not like you can go and buy another chainsaw in the USA, or anything like that.
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cdb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 12:36 PM
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3. Well, he wasn't an A-rab was he?
AS long as he wasn't an Allah worshipping jihadist, he is welcome here. I don't care who he decapitated. And one less country musician makes the worlsd a better place, anyhow.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 12:39 PM
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4. Chainsaws are not WMD you can really only get one or two people at a time
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 12:41 PM
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5. he was probably as surprised as I am that they let him through
wtf?
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 12:42 PM
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6. Was he wearing a hockey mask, too?
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:37 PM
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35. He needs to
Did you see his face?

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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 12:42 PM
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8. that's a lot to carry
did he have a backpack?

god bless the border patrol! stellar work!
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 12:43 PM
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9. Do we have u confused with someone who........
who lives in a country where things still make sense? close your eyes...real tight...now open them again...look around! Hello...welcome to the twilight zone! Cause that is exactly where u now live.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 12:47 PM
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10. I'd like to know who the hell picks up hitch-hikers wielding bloody
Edited on Tue Jun-07-05 12:50 PM by tk2kewl
chainsaws? :freak: :shrug:
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 02:10 PM
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18. Well at least he wasn't carting a wood chipper with him
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 10:02 PM
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48. I believe he stole the victims car to get near the border.
Then walked the rest of the way.... He also claimed to be working on a covert mission for the C.I A. maybe we are getting ready to invade Canada next....didn't realize they had that much oil.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 12:54 PM
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11. Is that a sword in your pocket or are you just glad to see me?
Wow.

Un-frickin-believable.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:04 PM
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12. I saw this on the news.


The guy, although living in Canada, had US citizenship, and when asked about this, the US Immigration spokesperson said he therefore had a right to enter the USA and if US Immigration or Customs agents were unaware of any actual crimes he had comitted then they had no right to detain him or turn him back to Canada.
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grumpy old fart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:29 PM
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14. hmmm, the phrase "probable cause" comes to mind.....
seems like plenty of it here to detain the fellow....
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:24 PM
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13. I can just imagine the conversation at the border
Agent: Can I see your tools?

Despres: No problem (hands over bloody tools)

Agent: Declaration of Citizenship?

Despres: USoA

Agent: Are you "saved"?

Despres: Yessir!

Agent: Come on in - we have no further questions!
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:32 PM
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15. Apparently the accused had been bullying their grandson,
and they had recently taken legal action against him.

Fred Fulton
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:37 PM
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16. So cops taser unarmed black teenagers to death for acting strange...
But let white guys carrying bloody weapons go?

I mean, he was in Canada, for chrissakes. Not like he killed an American.
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Ysolde Donating Member (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 02:02 PM
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17. Welcome to the world of form not substance!
This is another example of the ridiculous state of our Dept. of Homeland Security (now there's an oxymoron that I could use to explain its meaning to my 8-yr old). I had to explain to her why we couldn't walk to the gate to see off her uncle at the airport anymore, while pointing out that he had to take off his shoes and have every article x-rayed but the cargo was never examined. You gotta love the always on the ball DHS! :sarcasm:

They will save us from A-rabs and music pirates, but white guys with chain saws or fertilizer bombs aren't on their list.

:banghead:
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Puzzler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 02:18 PM
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19. Hey... a good ol' boy...
... with a few weapons... come on in!


-P
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 03:09 PM
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20. Welcome to DU, Puzzler!
:hi:
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 03:42 PM
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21. Absolutely unbelievable
And really, there are few things that I find unbelievable these days...

A bloody chainsaw?! :hide:
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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 03:53 PM
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22. Here's why they let him in.
Recruiting numbers are down...

"And I went up there, I said, 'Shrink, I want to kill. I mean, I wanna, I wanna kill. Kill. I wanna, I wanna see, I wanna see blood and gore and guts and veins in my teeth. Eat dead burnt bodies. I mean kill, Kill, KILL, KILL.' And I started jumpin up and down yelling, 'KILL, KILL,' and he started jumpin up and down with me and we was both jumping up and down yelling, 'KILL, KILL.' And the sargent came over, pinned a medal on me, sent me down the hall, said, 'You're our boy.'"
~Arlo Guthrie
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 05:04 PM
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23. You have got to be fucking kidding me
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 06:05 PM
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25. holy shit---a few fries short of a happy meal n/t
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Greylyn58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 06:38 PM
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29. And this dude looked normal enough to enter the country??
carrying all this stuff.

This guy is freakin scary looking and OUR so-called border patrol thought it was okay to let him in.

Wow!! I feel soooooo safe!!

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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 05:20 PM
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24. Where were the minuteman.......
taking care of our borders.....

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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 06:14 PM
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26. The clowns running Homeland Security (ha!) let people like this just
Edited on Tue Jun-07-05 06:15 PM by acmavm
come across the border, but they sent Arar to Syria (wasn't it???) where he was tortured. An innocent man sent to the Middle East to be tortured but a guy with bloody tools just moseys on across. And Arar was a naturalized citizen as well, wasn't he? All he wanted to do was go home to his family.

Somehow this really makes me crazy.
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 06:24 PM
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27. Have you ever seen the Maine border?
It's a joke. :rofl:

I have no idea what other states (that border Canada) have for security, but I imagine it's not much better than ours, and a couple of terrorists (from 9/11) figured that out quite easily, by coming in through Maine.

I hate to say it, because I love how life is up here, but yes we need more/better border security in Maine.

Another security issue up here: Shutting down the military bases on the coast. Maine has no security at the border with Canada, and then we lose our bases. WTF!

:mad: this is beyond just fucking with the blue states.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 04:29 PM
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51. The 9/11 highjackers didn't cross the border into Maine
They drove up from Massachusetts and then flew back down to Boston.

However, I've crossed the border at Calais many times. In fact, the last time I thought for sure I'd be on some list to get extra scrutiny but we were behind 3 large motorhomes and the guards just waved us through without even a stop.
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BrightKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 06:36 PM
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28. Lumberjack - H-1B critical need skill?
Perhaps they let him in to help meed the timber industry's growing demand for low cost labor.

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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:35 PM
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30. Man With Stained Chain Saw Let in to U.S.
Man With Stained Chain Saw Let in to U.S.

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" BOSTON - On April 25, Gregory Despres arrived at the U.S.-Canadian border crossing at Calais, Maine, carrying a homemade sword, a hatchet, a knife, brass knuckles and a chain saw stained with what appeared to be blood. U.S. customs agents confiscated the weapons and fingerprinted Despres. Then they let him into the United States.

The following day, a gruesome scene was discovered in Despres' hometown of Minto, New Brunswick: The decapitated body of a 74-year-old country musician named Frederick Fulton was found on Fulton's kitchen floor. His head was in a pillowcase under a kitchen table. His common-law wife was discovered stabbed to death in a bedroom."

Nice work, Homeland Security Schmucks
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:35 PM
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31. At least he wasn't on the flight landing at JFK that dropped body parts.
:shrug:
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:35 PM
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32. Are we sure?
Edited on Tue Jun-07-05 10:36 PM by HeeBGBz
He could have had a busy day.

He looks like he did anyway...

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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:35 PM
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33. It's all connected somehow
...I'm just sure of it. ;)
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lady lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:35 PM
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34. Sword, hatchet, knife, brass knuckles, & bloody chain, but NO
box cutter or lighter -- so we're good, right?

Oh, did you see his picture? He looks TOTALLY psychopathic.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:38 PM
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36. It's Ish Kabibble
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lady lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:41 PM
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37. Yessiree Bob. No problem letting THAT into the country.
Edited on Tue Jun-07-05 10:44 PM by lady lib
:scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared:


Edit: With apologies to Merwyn Bogue (haven't read it).
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 08:12 PM
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45. Really its beyond absurd.
Someone should have filmed it.
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lady lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 09:55 PM
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47. Exactly. It's a frightening level of idiocy.
BTW, I like that avatar!
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 10:48 PM
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38. Oh yes, I feel so safe in Shrubworld.
Nyet.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 09:52 AM
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39. 'Bloody chainsaw' man enters US



A man carrying a home-made sword and what looked like a blood-stained chainsaw was allowed into the US from Canada, the Associated Press reports.

The news agency says Gregory Despres' weapons were confiscated, before US custom officials in Calais, Maine, let him cross the border on 25 April.

The next day he became a murder suspect after bodies of his two neighbours were found in his hometown in Canada.

Mr Despres, 22, was arrested on 27 April and is now awaiting extradition.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4072746.stm
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 09:52 AM
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40. US Border systems--letting mass murderers into the country since 2001.
and before no doubt
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 09:53 AM
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41. More to the story:
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 09:53 AM
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42. They had no reason to stop him, though...
Odd as it sounds, he had done nothing wrong before he crossed the border, besides making some really poor choices in barbers.

The 'blood-stained' chainsaw is a bit misleading. From this, it could've been anything on that blade.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 09:53 AM
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43. But US Customs stopped and searched me and my friends
Tore apart my car and luggage. I've never had more than a traffic ticket.

:shrug:
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 10:45 AM
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44. Man with bloody chain saw let in U.S.
I'm sure this is a dupe but I can't find it on LBN

http://www.wvgazette.com/section/News/2005060731

On April 25, Gregory Despres arrived at the U.S.-Canadian border crossing at Calais, Maine, carrying a homemade sword, a hatchet, a knife, brass knuckles and a chain saw stained with what appeared to be blood. U.S. customs agents confiscated the weapons and fingerprinted Despres.

Then they let him into the United States.

The following day, a gruesome scene was discovered in Despres’ hometown of Minto, New Brunswick: The decapitated body of a 74-year-old country musician named Frederick Fulton was found on Fulton’s kitchen floor. His head was in a pillowcase under a kitchen table. His common-law wife was discovered stabbed to death in a bedroom.

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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 09:53 PM
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46. Meanwhile, they're still pattin' down Grandma at the airport!
I won't even start.
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 10:10 PM
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49. At least he wasn't trying to bring legal pharmaceuticals back. nt
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 04:07 PM
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50. US media suppressing key detail: Killer said he was in US Military.
"According to police, Mr. Despres, believed to be a naturalized American citizen, told the border guards he was in the U.S military."

Heh. No comment. ;-)

http://www.canada.com/components/printstory/printstory4.aspx?id=26f73bfb-1599-4e27-9179-9a449d7f5020
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