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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 06:48 PM
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Reid: No documents, no Bolton
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/06/09/senate.bolton/index.html?section=cnn_latest

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Senate Democrats will not allow a vote on President Bush's choice for U.N. ambassador unless the White House hands over records of communications intercepts Bolton sought from the secretive National Security Agency, Minority Leader Harry Reid said Thursday.

"You can't ignore the Senate. We've told them what we've wanted. The ball is in his court," Reid, D-Nevada, told CNN. "If they want John Bolton as ambassador to the United Nations, give us this information. If they don't, there will be no Bolton."

But Reid said Bush is responsible for breaking the impasse -- not Democrats.

"The president is obstructing a vote on John Bolton," he said. "We've asked for simple information that Congresses over many decades that we have been in existence have been given by the White House."

(snip)
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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 06:49 PM
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1. give 'em hell Harry. nt
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 07:57 PM
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28. Harry Freaking Reid!!!! Stand up Stand up!!!
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:22 PM
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46. Tom Daschle would have thrown in the towel weeks ago!
Nice to have someone with real claws in the leadership!
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 11:28 PM
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60. One of the Mods posted about 1 year before Daschle's election that
Edited on Thu Jun-09-05 11:29 PM by dArKeR
we had to do everything to support Daschle and get him elected. Yes of course that was correct. But me being the Devil's advocate, I posted that it would be better for Daschle to lose. The Dems needed to clean house. I said we are in the position we are in because of spineless Dems like Daschle. It would be better for America and the Dem Party to take a heavy loss and then start rebuilding.

Do I have a sixth sense?

(When he called aWol a loser, I called his office and asked why in the world did he apologize? Everyone paying attention knows W is a loser. Please tell the Senator to stand up for America. It's about time.) I swear to the above.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 11:49 PM
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64. I agreed with you
Given that it would not change the power balance in the Senate that is. I would rather have seen Daschle keep his seat but not the leadership spot, however that was not going to happen. He could not lead effectively due to needing to pander to his constituents just to keep winning elections.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 11:24 PM
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59. I'm really really getting a heck of a lot of respect for this guy!
I sort of got a bad impression of Mormons from one who was my roommate and the ones I've met overseas in Asia. I'm starting to really jumped to quickly to judgement.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 11:33 PM
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62. Could the Dems growing a spine all be tired to 1 man, Al Franken?
Edited on Thu Jun-09-05 11:36 PM by dArKeR
The Guardian Angel sent by God to save America? One man holds the fate of America and the world in his mouth!
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Doomsayer13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 06:50 PM
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2. that's right - go harry!
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 06:53 PM
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3. Maybe the Democrats will compromise
and let Bolton go if the Republicans try harder next time to select a sane nominee.
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sundancekid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 06:54 PM
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4. plain spoken toughness - take that to the ranch, shrubbie
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 07:40 AM
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70. but someone must like garbled laden vagaries from the Monkey in Chief
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 06:55 PM
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5. "The president is obstructing a vote on John Bolton,"
We need to keep repeating this.
It's short, sweet, and %100 TRUE.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 06:58 PM
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10. And "Its Bush's War"
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 07:01 PM
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14. Harry is our Karl Rove
He really has a knack for just the right thing to say... :thumbsup:
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NEOBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:24 PM
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47. Don't insult the Senator
Rove isn't all that.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 12:50 AM
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67. Getoutahere...
Rove is amazing. He is a spin master. Just because he works for the dark side doesn't mean he isn't very good at what he does
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 06:55 PM
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6. Dead solid perfect!
"The president is obstructing the vote on John Bolton." Stand firm, Harry! Stand firm, Democrats! No information, no vote. This administration has demonstrated over and over again that it can't be trusted, and until you have had a chance to examine the totality of the nominee's record, he doesn't get his precious up or down vote.

Period. End of story.
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mctrotter5 Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 06:55 PM
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7. Gosh, maybe Bush is the obstructionist!
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 06:57 PM
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8. I love it, give them hell Harry, loving it
Dems staying together and strong.

:kick:
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 06:57 PM
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9. Ball falls flatly on Bush, now! Reid now has "Spine!"
Rep. Nancy Pelosi was granted a news brief (on C-SPAN, no other station), and she's calling for a 9/11 commission report, and talking about extremists judges and their nominations.

The Democrats are growing "Spine." Finally...

She's defending Dean, too and knocking the Republicans.
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 06:58 PM
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11. Hey Harry!
Thanks for having a spine!
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 06:59 PM
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12. Hahahaha!! That IS funny!!
Way to go, Reid! :yourock:

I'm reminded that that's the way you deal with recalcitrant 5 year olds...give them simple choices. Or you say, "We'll do X as soon as Y". You state mater-of-factly, "We'll go to the park as soon as you've picked up your toys."

Excellent strategy to deal with the man-child. :evilgrin:
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 06:59 PM
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13. ....hit em hard Harry!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 11:21 PM
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58. RUN HIM OVER
Edited on Thu Jun-09-05 11:22 PM by seemslikeadream
:hi:




.....


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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 07:06 PM
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15. Quick!
Somebody handcuff the DLC Senators to a radiator and duct tape their mouths before they compromise again. We can't afford to appease hitler...oops, I mean bush* again!
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 07:07 PM
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16. Good Thing We Still Have the Fillibuster
I'm just sayin'...
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 08:43 PM
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38. I think you're confusing this
Edited on Thu Jun-09-05 08:44 PM by drm604
with the judicial filibuster. This isn't the same thing, no one has threatened to eliminate this type of filibuster.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 10:58 PM
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54. You Never Know
Edited on Thu Jun-09-05 11:00 PM by Beetwasher
How they would have applied they're potential new found powers. Do you think it really matters to the Repubs? Just watch them threaten now.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 07:08 PM
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17. Best CNN headline in a long time
That's to the point. No ambiguity there. :thumbsup:
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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 07:15 PM
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18. Go On with your Bad Self Harry!!!
The Dems (a few) Are carrying the whole load! I think it won't be long before we have more "brass ones" than we know what to do with!!!! Things are turning, and I know I have been praying my ass off! For Impeachment for this President, and for patience for MEEEEEEEE!!!
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 07:16 PM
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19. Hell yeah!
Give 'em Hell Harry!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 07:17 PM
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20. And to think I thought Reid looked too meek!
He's just the man to deal with this obstructionist pResident!

:rofl:
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 07:21 PM
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21. Harry and Howard. Two of the most honorable men in the country.
They make me proud to be a dem.

Now if only Wes runs for the Presidential nomination again. I'll be in political heaven.
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 02:02 AM
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69. I agree with you
about Wes... but remember to add John Conyers to that list! Honorable, brave, and never gives up!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 07:25 PM
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22. Give 'em hell, Harry!
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pissed_American Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 07:28 PM
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23. GOOD !! Fuck `em!!!
We ain`t takin` this shit NO MORE !!!


C`mon Bush, I know you understand THAT lingo.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 07:35 PM
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24. Reid forgot this is the most secretive, most corrupt group of...
thugs this country has ever seen. Well, at least half the populace realize that fact.

=="We've asked for simple information that Congresses over many decades that we have been in existence have been given by the White House."==
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 07:42 PM
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25. so what can Reid do to stop the vote?
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 07:51 PM
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27. Filibuster
I don't believe they have sixty votes for Bolton lined up so we can stop this nomination dead unless some Democrats defect.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:26 PM
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48. thanks, I sure hope the dems stand together on this one
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 07:49 PM
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26. "You can't ignore the Senate. "
Stick to your guns, Harry!
:thumbsup:
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Iowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 07:58 PM
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29. Perfect! Well spoken Harry! (n/t)
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 07:59 PM
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30. He gave an excellent interview to CNN today...
he's the best senate leader we've had in well...a while. :)
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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 08:03 PM
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31. Another DU link with the interview in which he says
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 08:21 PM
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34. Great video !
Thanks for the link.:hi:
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 12:36 AM
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66. Great Video!!! Thanks!
You go Harry!!!:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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u2spirit Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 08:07 PM
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32. Would Daschle have said this?
Hardee harr har! Harry got respect from me for this. Perfect phrasing. Needless to say, I'm sure Jacko will capture the headlines.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 08:14 PM
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33. Again with the Dems showing spine!
More hope. Another Dem with (shout out to the ladies) OVARIES! Please learn these words all of you:

No backing down.


Ah..I'm liking this Reid fellow. Just hopr he has no comments on Dean so I can keep liking him. ;)
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Rayjay Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 08:33 PM
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35. Harry Reid for Prez ?
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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 08:34 PM
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36. Interesting notion. nt
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 03:36 PM
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80. Y'know....
There are major issues I don't agree with the guy on but I could go for that.

Harry ain't now wussy wiberal Democrat.
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msmcghee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 08:36 PM
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37. This ties in directly with the DSM (Downing Street Minutes)
Edited on Thu Jun-09-05 08:38 PM by msmcghee
Bolton was obviously out to fix the intelligence around the policy and was not too worried about ruffling any feathers.

This not only proves that Bush and Blair were lieing through their teeth - but shows how unfit Bolton is for any job that requires brains rather than bluster and stron-arm tactics.

God, these people need to be destroyed. How long do we have to wait.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 08:47 PM
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40. No kidding.. are they waiting til the country is totally wrecked
before they finally admit WE HAVE A PROBLEM? If so, looks like we might not have to wait much longer! I say - Do it now, while there is still a country left to save.
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jdog Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 08:45 PM
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39. Harry: You are doing what I want you to do!!! n/t
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 08:49 PM
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41. Hark! is that a spine I see!
:o :)
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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 08:53 PM
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42. Reid, D-MAN!
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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 08:59 PM
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43. Harry, go ahead, make our day...every day! We love it.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:01 PM
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44. Oh yeah.
This is the way you play politics, boys and girls!

Stick it to the bastards, Harry!
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:20 PM
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45. Filibuster Bolton!
I'll send an email of support!
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:33 PM
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49. I just hope they stick to this pledge
Bolton needs to be filibusterd.

Also, they need to call Condi Rice up to Capitol Hill, and ask her why she essentially instructed her staff to impeded a Senate Foreign Relations Committee investigation.

She told her staff she didn't want any information about Bolton coming out of the State Dept, that may jepordize his chances for confirmation. Hello, that's obstructing a Congressional investigation.

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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 10:03 PM
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50. Me. to!
I don't want to see a few good democrats and a few good repubs get together and make nice and come out with another compromise on Bolton like they did with the judges. Actually, I don't want to see any deals. I want to see Bolton's nomination defeated.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 10:13 PM
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51. Finally!!! Reid, go kick some ass!! n/t
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 10:21 PM
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52. Giv e 'em hell, Harry! Way to go. Now , don't give in!
I am more impressed every day with him, as opposed to being increasingly disappointed with Obama.

Nice to see dems fighting for once.
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AngryWhiteLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 10:24 PM
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53. Reid KICKS Dachle's ass. Thank heavens for a SPINED DEM LEADER!
I'm not detecting any waffle in Reid's statements, activities, or strategies over the past few months. It's so refreshing to have a leader who DOES NOT BACKDOWN.

JB
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Edgewater_Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 11:01 PM
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55. Oh NO! Now Biden & Lieberman & Richardson's Gonna Be MAD!
Are you sure Reid cleared it with the Politeness Police of the Democratic Losers' Council?!
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 11:10 PM
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56. Hurray for Harry!!!
:bounce:
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 11:14 PM
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57. Tough Guy Harry Reid ... looks like an accountant, acts like a
classic film noir tough guy.

Give 'em hell, Harry!
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 11:28 PM
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61. Good statement. Now, let's hope he holds to his position.
If so, it'll be the best thing he's done this year.
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 11:42 PM
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63. But, Harry already has the document he needs
it is called the Downing Street Minutes and Bolton was one of the key figures in "fixing the intelligence to fit the policy."
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 12:07 AM
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65. We can't say it enough here on Dem Underground, GIVE 'EM HELL, HARRY!
:yourock:
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 01:51 AM
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68. isn't he mormon?
I used to think mormon's were just a buncha no good crazies who just jumped on the mormon band wagon, blindingly voting right. He's one mormon that says to people they probably aren't ALL that bad...

how many liberal mormons do YOU know?
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 08:07 AM
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72. Many liberal Mormons
Edited on Fri Jun-10-05 08:08 AM by marshall
I have a friend who is a religion professor at BYU (Brigham Young University, a Mormon university in Provo, UT) who is a very active liberal, so the stereotype does not always fit.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 08:01 AM
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71. Balls, mate.
Well done, Harry.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 08:11 AM
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73. Well there's some good news.
I'd like to see more of this, that's for sure.
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 08:12 AM
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74. You keep em in line Harry!
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 09:30 AM
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75. kick
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 01:46 PM
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76. go Harry go!!
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 02:33 PM
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77. All right, Reid
We need some kind of tasteful smilie for someone with stones.
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grumpy old fart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 02:57 PM
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78. No Doc, No Bolton, No Docs, No Bolton, No Docs, No Bolton, No Docs, No....
and let's stick to it!!!!!!
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 03:32 PM
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79. Hey bush* all we want is an up'r'down vote, so give Harry the docs!
Good work Reid!
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 03:51 PM
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81. Sweet! Plain and simple, direct and to the point. And standing firm!
THAT'S exactly what we need! :applause:
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AaronforAmerica Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 03:53 PM
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82. http://www.StopJohnBolton.com
Hi,

I thought some of you may be interested in helping with a petition site that several of us former Wes Clark campaign staff members just put it. Its an email petition to Senators urging them to vote against John Bolton. I hope you check it out:

http://www.StopJohnBolton.com

Thanks!

take care,
Aaron
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Pystoff Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 04:01 PM
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83. Finally!
That's it Harry put your foot down and don't waver! Bush thinks it's his way and that's it take a stand and let the prick know the Senate is still there. No backing down or compromises this time! Thing is smells like BushCo is hiding something on Bolton that might hurt...:evilgrin: ...wonder what it might be hehe.
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deacon2 Donating Member (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 06:00 PM
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85. Reid retains possession of both his testicles
I imagine Joementum and other Democratic castrati are envious, having served theirs up at the first sign of opposition.
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PopSixSquish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 06:56 PM
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86. You Go Harry!
I really like this guy! He's as tough as they come.
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 08:05 PM
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87. YOWZA!!!
You go Harry!!!:)

Gyre
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vickie Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 09:06 PM
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88. I love Harry Reid! What a man!
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