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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 04:27 PM
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Plan to sell gold reserves worries some
I live in one of these rural gold mining towns, 80% of these overpaid goldminers voted RED for Bush! Most are barely high school educated, pulling in $64,000 average a year. Yep, go ahead and cry, Mr. Reid. You didn't help John Kerry much in NV Gold Country, but you got the RED vote! And those big fat international mines you hug, well, what do they really do beside temporarily employ folks in mining and they end up feeling your dad did in Searchlight when the work leaves.

June 11, 2005

British proposals to sell International Monetary Fund gold reserves to help poor countries is raising concerns among U.S. and Nevada officials.

Even though Nevada is nicknamed the Silver State, gold is much more important to the state's economy than silver.

Nevada, the nation's largest gold producer, turned out 6.9 million ounces of the yellow metal with a value of $2.8 billion last year.

The gold mining industry employs about 10,000 Nevadans, paying average yearly wages of $63,400. Suppliers and other businesses that serve the gold mining industry bring the industry's total employment to 45,000, John Dobra, director of the Natural Resource Industry Institute at the University of Nevada, Reno, said.

While small compared to employment in Las Vegas, "Mining is a very big employer in rural Nevada," he said.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2005/Jun-11-Sat-2005/news/26703989.html
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 04:31 PM
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1. Nevada Gold Mining : A legacy of giant pits of cyanide leak into water
Yummy Cyanide!



Lovely pits of Cyanide pools surrounded by dead Cayotes and Deer and Squirrels etc that drank from the pools and died 20 feet away.



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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 04:33 PM
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2. dude, it ain't leaking into surface water. It's leaking into underground
water tables/basins. The same water Reid is helping his family and friends in Las Vegas grab from Rural Nevada!
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 04:44 PM
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3. Don't drink the Koolaid
Cyanide poisoning is not cumulative, so, you might as well have some lemonade.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 04:51 PM
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4. why are ppl worried about selling gold reserves? I do not get it. Help
please.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 05:09 PM
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5. I think its because our dollar is based on the gold reserves, but
I could be wrong. This is an area where I have less interest.
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 05:14 PM
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7. We have petrodollars...
Nixon de-linked from gold, I believe, in the early 70s. But I am not an expert on anything financial, as anyone that knows me, can attest to.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 05:22 PM
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8. Yeah. My budget I can handle.
Start talking about the complicated financial strategies and I get lost fast.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 05:12 PM
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6. some of it is demand related. If the IMF dumps gold on the market,
the high price the gold industry in Nevada, RED STATE, gets will drop. Supply/demand is part of it.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 07:46 PM
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15. or those portions that are red will suffer
The bluer Las Vegas metro area would not be hurt much.

Gambling is a much more stable source of income than gold these days.

(instead of the gold standard, shoudl we back our money with casino chips?)
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 05:30 PM
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10. Bush is simply raiding ALL government assets.or .PILFERING
Real estate (Base closings)
Foreign Capital (Deficit)
Gold Reserves (Easy Cash)
Natural Reserves (LUmber, oil etc)

Its all one gigantic PILFERING
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 05:58 PM
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11. It makes the price go down due to increased supply in the market
Their profit is the difference between production cost and market price.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 08:36 PM
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18. It will lower the price of gold hurting mining industries. eom
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 05:28 PM
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9. Even better! Cyanide for everybody! Free!
Not too many things are free!

(cept bad things)
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 06:15 PM
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12. Yeah!
Damn those selfish $64K per year workers! :eyes:
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newswolf56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 06:33 PM
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13. Thank you! I was just about to note...
...how the original poster's snide elitist attitude about "overpaid" miners is exactly what has driven so many blue-collar folk into (A) identifying with their oppressors and thence (B) into the Republican Party. It is this same attitude that has alienated so many Americans from the environmental movement.

And what would this poster pay miners? Minimum wage? Less? This for working at the most dangerous job in the world...
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leetrisck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 06:42 PM
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14. Agreed 100%
Those poorly educated smucks - sounds rather resentful to me.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 07:53 PM
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16. I agree
I have no problem with workers in demanding, dangerous occupations making good wages.

These guys aren't overpaid - the rest of the American workforce is underpaid.
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Joebert Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 08:33 PM
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17. I wonder what the real reason is.
Being the cynical type, I wonder if this isn't meant to devalue the hell out of gold so it can be bought up cheaply.

It would certainly damage many countries that are gold producers and are meant to be helped by this measure. (as the article says)


Since gold always goes up big during unstable market times, I wonder if this isn't a prep plan for when the market goes wild. Say, if we bomb Iran, NK, or get into it with China.


Curious.
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Victimerican Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 08:42 PM
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19. IF?
Sounds like I might want to invest in gold...
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Joebert Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 08:51 PM
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20. I am already trying to figure out where I'd scrape up a few grand.
IF we were to, I don't know up the rhetoric so that it looked like in any given day, were were going to openly attack

- Iran
- North Korea
- Belarus
- Venezuela
- China
- Russia

Oh wait, they do that daily already.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 09:19 PM
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21. Plans to sell gold are part of bolstering a faltering dollar
It creates the market psychology that the dollar is worth something if it holds it own against gold, when in fact the prices of commodities have been exploding as dollars and US debt hemorrhage all over the world. It's the end stage of a great sucker play.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 02:41 AM
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22. Befoe long, all the dollar will be good for
is asswipe.

Use only new bills. You never know where used ones have been.
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