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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 07:25 AM
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TIME: Inside The Interrogation Of Detainee 063 (20th Hijacker)
Exclusive: To get the "20th hijacker" to talk, the U.S. used a wide range of tactics. A secret log reveals the first documented view of how Gitmo really works
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1071201,00.html

The prisoner known around the U.S. naval station at Guantanamo Bay as Detainee 063 was a hard man to break. Defiant from the start, he told his captors that he had been in Afghanistan to pursue his love of falconry. But the young Saudi prisoner who wouldn't talk was not just any detainee. He was Mohammed al-Qahtani, a follower of Osama bin Laden's and the man believed by many to be the so-called 20th hijacker. He had tried to enter the U.S. in August 2001, allegedly to take part in the Sept. 11 attacks. But while Mohammed Atta, the eventual leader of the hijackers, was waiting outside in the Orlando, Fla., airport parking lot, al-Qahtani was detained inside—and then deported—by an alert immigration officer who didn't buy his...




NBC just interviewed someone who said this log is genuine as it's been corroborated by several high-ranking Pentagon officials (yeah, like I believe anything out of there.)

Anyway, smells like a smokescreen, to me.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 07:28 AM
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1. another calculated leak in aid of the Gitmo and the Patriot act???
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 07:31 AM
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2. Sure smells like it to me.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 09:20 PM
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12. Yep...they hope nobody will dig any deeper into the REAL torture...
...tactics used, to include the fun trips to Egypt for a little physical therapy.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 12:10 AM
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16. Yep
This is a way to put a "happy face" on torture, if such a thing is possible. This way, the interrogation techniques will not be questioned further and the govt. will go back to strapping electrodes to peoples' genitals.

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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 07:44 AM
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3. Another 20th hijacker? Whats that make now?
Like fifty-nine 20th hijackers? Fifty-nine 20th Hijackers and one horse-jacker. Sheesh.

Don

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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:29 AM
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5. Multiple #3s, Multiple #20s....who's counting?
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LeighAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:34 AM
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6. I thought Moussaoui was the 20th hijacker!
Plus, what about the "original" hijackers that have since been discovered to be alive and well?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1559151.stm
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 05:25 PM
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7. Even CNN noticed there were a "half dozen or so" 20th hijackers last year
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/01/20/possible.hijacker/

Officials suspect detainee may be 20th hijacker

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A prisoner at the U.S. Navy base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, is among a handful of people suspected of being the so-called 20th al Qaeda hijacker planned for the September 11 attacks, according to U.S. officials.

A senior official said the detainee, known as al-Qahtani, is "one of a half dozen or so individuals" whom investigators suspect the lead hijacker, Mohamed Atta, may have planned to put on United Airlines Flight 93.

That plane crashed into the fields of rural Pennsylvania near Shanksville after passengers overpowered the hijackers.

Speculation of a possible 20th hijacker emerged immediately following the terrorist attacks. Four hijackers were aboard Flight 93, while five hijackers were on the three other planes, which hit the World Trade Center in New York and the Pentagon outside Washington. (Full story)

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 08:05 AM
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4. Photo with the article...
No it isn't a Gulag! really....

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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 09:02 PM
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8. Guantanamo guards tortured prisoner with music
13 June 2005

A top al-Qa'ida suspect in Guantanamo Bay was stripped, forced to bark like a dog, and subjected to the music of Christina Aguilera, it emerged as debate intensified in the US capital over the future of the detention camp in Cuba.

The latest disclosures come in a prison log of the treatment of Mohammad al-Kahtani, a Saudi citizen whom many US investigators believe was the missing "20th hijacker" of 11 September 2001. The document, extracts of which appear in the new issue of Time magazine, covers a 50 day spell in 2002-03 - a period when additional interrogation techniques were approved by Donald Rumsfeld, the Defence Secretary.

They included a "sissy slap" with an inflated latex glove, ordering Mr Kahtani to "bark to elevate his social status up to that of a dog," and rejecting a request that he be allowed to pray. On other occasions, water was poured on his head and Aguilera music was played to keep him awake in midnight sessions.

Mr Kahtani was questioned in a room decorated with pictures of 11 September victims. He was made to urinate in his underpants, and at other times to wear pictures of scantily clad women around his neck. At one point, according to the log, he asked to commit suicide.

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=646521


Oh please, dogs, water, ladies underwear, anything but Christine Aguilera.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 09:02 PM
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9. It wasn't really torture; they didn't make him listen to
Edited on Sun Jun-12-05 08:56 PM by ocelot
Barry Manilow.
But really... how totally bizarre.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 09:02 PM
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10. Oh ... that's cold ...
Please don't diss my Barry! :loveya:
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 09:02 PM
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11. I agree... Aguilera's music is torture
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Zerex71 Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:42 PM
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14. Who said it was music?
I'd spill the beans if that would make them stop playing her caterwauling.
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:06 PM
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13. They call this torture ? Some guys like pissing in their pants
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:53 PM
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15. Yep, playing up the 'terra' angle for the Patriot Act...
* is out on the road selling that along with his SS package. :eyes:
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 07:18 AM
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17. Guantanamo log details interrogation tactics used against 9/11 suspect
WASHINGTON (AFP) - A top Saudi terror suspect held by the United States at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba was forcibly injected with fluids, grilled in proximity to military dogs and straddled by a female soldier, according to secret logs obtained by a US magazine.

Mohammed al-Qahtani was forcibly injected with an undisclosed volume of fluids after refusing food and water in late 2002 at the Guantanamo camp, according to US interrogation logs obtained by Time magazine and released Sunday.

The logs -- parts of which are incomplete -- give a detailed account of the measures used against a captive at the prison, many of which have been criticized by rights groups.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/usattacksguantanamo;_ylt=AqRhTSAgZjXfsvl3YHGlz7UDW7oF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
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