Christian Coalition: Gays Should Wear Warning Labels

[Newsjock]

http://www.365gay.com/newscon05/06/061305pride.htm

The leader of a conservative Christian lobby group says that gays should be required to wear warning labels.

"We put warning labels on cigarette packs because we know that smoking takes one to two years off the average life span, yet we 'celebrate' a lifestyle that we know spreads every kind of sexually transmitted disease and takes at least 20 years off the average life span according to the 2005 issue of the revered scientific journal Psychological Reports," said Rev. Bill Banuchi, executive director of the New York Christian Coalition.

The journal regularly publishes articles described by many mainstream psychologists as misleading and faulty. The homosexuality morbidity study was conducted by the conservative anti-gay Family Research Institute.

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[bluestateguy]

1. and how about yellow stars for the Jews, green crescents for the Muslims

and maybe us liberals should have to wear a warning symbol too?

Nazis.

[proud2BlibKansan]

54. No it's pink hearts, yellow moons and green clovers

Just like Lucky Charms cereal.

[Lilith Velkor]

133. Blue diamond warning labels for capitalists?

It's an idea...

[Montanan]

151. Not every Capitalist is evil.

Money is only a tool. It's what in a person's heart, not their bank account, that matters -- right?

[DrunkenMaster]

191. Eye of the needle

I seem to recall hearing something about a camel and a needle when I was a kid....gee, I wonder where it came from?

Money is NOT "just a tool" -- it takes form and pattern when left to its own devices. This is why the ancient evil god of money was named Mammon and why we have a concept of a "free market" being able to work out its own problems.

[Montanan]

194. Are you saying that money is actually alive?

If I leave a $20 bill to "its own devices" - like sitting on my dresser, it'll just sit there. It won't take "form and pattern".
Money, like anything else, can be used for noble or ignoble ends.

Someone once said "The trouble with socialism is socialism. The trouble with capitalism is capitalists". Greed and heartlessness is the problem, not money.

[DrunkenMaster]

195. Ever Studied Viruses?

They are not "alive" yet they execute measurable patterns of behavior. Not to belabor the point, but the very concept of the "free market" with an "invisible hand" absolutely depends upon this notion: you are living in a culture that absolutey believes that money is an independant force.

Listen to ANY capitalist tell you about "the market" and then tell me they don't belive it has patterns of behavior.

On edit: I've even heard some go so far as to say that market forces are a "natural law", which (at least to my mind) completely transcends the concept of "living organism" and moves in into an even larger sphere, where the idea of "Mammon" begins to make more sense.

[Montanan]

201. "The market" is not money, it's people using money. n/t

[Straight Shooter]

70. How about a big red "A" for adulterous spouses?

They spread disease, too. How about a big black "I" for fathers who commit the crime of incest? Maybe a big blue "C" for child abusers?

There is no worse disease than the spread of ignorant prejudice.

[Seabiscuit]

183. How about "FR" for "Fascist Rethuglican" (FReeper)?

[devinsgram]

87. I was just gonna say that.

The path we are going down is not a good one, folks.

[Behind the Aegis]

2. Pink Triangles

It has been done. It didn't turn out so well.

[chopper]

13. asdf

"It didn't turn out so well."

i think the christian coalition might disagree with that.

[XemaSab]

141. Hitler failed to extirpate the gays

Hence, it could have turned out better as far as they're concerned.

[friesianrider]

3. We need to put warning labels on Republicans...

So typical. Who can honestly say they're surprised?

[struggle4progress]

7. Let's staple "Pathological Liar" tags to their foreheads. eom

[GoddessOfGuinness]

109. ...

:spray::rofl:

[indypaul]

198. Most of them currently wear

an American Flag in their lapel. It's a sad day
when they have turned the flag into their party
symbol and we let them do it. We need to take it
back.

[Moochy]

4. Labels like a star? or a triangle?

hmm a label, how about a pink triangle ? wow these nazis are really coming up with some innovative ideas!

[xxqqqzme]

77. they're just fallin' back on what

worked last time.....they're just tweaking it a little.

[MaineDem]

5. Oh dear lord...yellow stars anyone?

Does this not REEK of Naziism???

This is abhorrent!

PS. Nominated.

[proud2BlibKansan]

56. Another nomination

[Conker]

6. This reminds me of when Hitler made the Jewish people wear stars of David.

[converted_democrat]

9. exactly..........

[Julius Civitatus]

25. Hitler also made gays wear pink triangles, just like these:

Is this where the Christian Coalition is taking us?

:mad:

[Gregorian]

65. OMG. Thank you for posting that. It says it all.

My history is weak. I just learned something very important from you. Thanks.

This is not much different than separate but equal. I'm a Christian. But I'm nothing like these people who advocate this bs. Love. Not hate.

[Julius Civitatus]

83. The Nazis persecuted all sorts of minorities and dissenters

in addition to Jews. Although the Jewish community got the brunt of Hitler's rage, other groups as well were persecuted and routinely executed by this epitome of right-wing regimes. These included:

- socialists, unionists

- lefty intellectuals and college professors

- Gypsies

- homosexuals

[Gregorian]

89. Weren't Nazis extreme left wing?

And not right wing, like many people say? And forgive my ignorance. I am only saying this from my (poor) recollection of forum posts.

I knew they targeted many groups. I just had never seen the symbol that was placed upon the clothing.

[Julius Civitatus]

94. NO! That's right-wing spin. Nazism is the most extreme form of RIGHT WING

RIGHT WING politics.

In the last few years I've seen a lot of right-wing pundits muddying the waters and obfuscating the facts. One of their claims now is that Nazism was not right-wing, but a form of "left wing."

Bullshit!

What worries me is that it's somehow catching on.

Anyone with a knowledge of history knows very well Nazism is a extreme right-wing philosophy.

Ask any European, They know.

[Gregorian]

100. Ouch. I got that from a highly educated journalist.

Oh well. I mean, it never did make sense that they'd have been leftist.

Thank you.

[Julius Civitatus]

110. Nonsense. I doubt he was that "highly educated"... or he works for FoxNews

Don't let them fool you with spin. Republican spin-meisters are determined to make night day, and tell you that black is white. And now it's in vogue to spin it as "if it's "bad", then it's gotta be lefty."

Nazism is the extreme right wing of the political spectrum. In Europe today they call neo-Nazis "ultras", as in "ultra right-wing."

[K-W]

134. Which is, horrifically enough a product of American facism.

Where all negative examples of authoritarianism are assumed to be leftist simply because they are negative. Because we all know that conservatives are for small government, right, right...

[Raster]

142. National Socialism or "nazis" were as right-wing as you could get

...and some of them quite devout christians.

[LiberalFighter]

160. If Bush (Prescott) Dynasty supported the Nazi's then they must be Liberals

[donco6]

118. No - Fascism = Right Wing

Nazis hated communism - stamped it out everywhere they could.

[K-W]

131. Nazism is viruntly anti lefitst and extremely authoritarian.

It would be hard to get more right wing than the Nazi's.

The thing that gets some people confused (mostly because it is often presented dishonestly) is the fact that The Nazi Party was originally one of many small socialist groups in Germany, but Hitler made short work of that.

Remember that at this time workers around the world are pissed off and mobilizing and threatning to take over societies.

Nazism, like other forms of facism (including the classic US strains) was largely a response to mobilization of the people, but at the same time it fed off of the people.

By creating elaborate myths with powerful rhetoric and a system of scapegoating, facists are able to convince workers that class conciousness is itself a deception, and the actual causes of thire problems arent the rich people exploiting them but whatever stigmitized minority and political enemies happen to present and the ominous foriegn powers they actually work for.

In turning class conciousness into facism, these social engineers do hijack a great deal of language from leftism. Basically they take all the things that people like about socialism and democracy and put them with all of the things people like about authoritarianism, and pretend that is thier position, while all things people dont like about authoritarianism and all the thigns people dont like about socialism(most of them lies) is the position of those stupid/evil/crazy leftists who must be stopped or society will be destroyed by its own sins.

[CTLawGuy]

146. oh yes

liberals are all about world military domination and white aryan supremacy :eyes:

[saigon68]

180. Ah yes---Big DINO JOE LIMPMAN

What a loser with his whinny ass voice. YUK

[Frederik]

154. No one in their right mind

would call the Nazis left wing. They were extreme right-wing.

[adigal]

159. How many liberals do you know who want to jail

or kill people who disagree with them??? No, liberals always believe that if they remain reasonable, they can convince the others of the wisdom of their argument. That is because liberals tend to be more thoughtful and independent than conservatives. So no way were the Nazis left wing!!!

[Judi Lynn]

181. Thanks for pointing it out.Common sense can be so helpful.

If only people would slow down and think things over we wouldn't have so many easily misled folks around.

[hatrack]

162. And, lest the Fundies forget - Jehovah's Witnesses

No, I'm not making this up.

[montana_hazeleyes]

165. Also Jehovah's Witnesses

I believe they wore a purple triangle. They refused to salute Hitler or in any way back him.

[bobbieinok]

84. college students from Europe are appalled that US students DON'T

know that Nazis targeted gays as well as Jews

and nearly everyone forgets they targeted Gypsies (also called Roma and Sinti)

[Julius Civitatus]

95. Europeans are appalled at the lack of knowledge US students display

other than sports trivia.

:eyes:

[rexcat]

167. Don't forget the mentally ill and the physically deformed.

n/t

[Shallah Kali]

99. Thank you for this history lesson. I didn't know the Nazi's marked gays

like they marked out the Jews. Once again evil rears it's ugly head and too many are unaware of what lies behind the bright and shiny pseudoChristian exterior.

[Julius Civitatus]

112. We humans tend to make the same mistakes over and over again

And Republicans seem hell bent on taking America through a very dark and scary road.

Not good.

[K-W]

132. Also remember the dissidents, labor organizers, rights activists,

college professors, liberals, moderates and all of the people who just plain got arrested or killed incidentally.

Its very important to rember all of the people that history tends to forget because it gives us a much more informative tale of what went on in Germany, especially since one of the reasons Jews were an enemy is because Judiasm has a strong liberal intellectual tradition that made jews one of the most prominant groups in the leftist movements of the time.

The Nazi's may have been mainly after the Jews, but the people who put the Nazi's in power wanted them there to stop the workers.

[Julius Civitatus]

135. Good point n/t

[Conker]

197. I didn't know they did that either.

[Zan_of_Texas]

176. Don't forget the tattoos too.

But, in case some people don't want a tattoo, technology has the answer! It's the internal microchip, with all the information anyone could want, about you.

[killbotfactory]

What? They don't have gaydar?

These people are diseased.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

8. Well....this guy's shown his true swastika, hasn't he?

[darkism]

10. "You know, the Christians had flair they made the gays wear..."

Oh sweet Jesus. How very un-Christly. Is there no low to which these people won't stoop?

[kwyjibo]

40. I bet I'm the only one who got your Office Space reference

that's the first quote I thought of too :)

[geniph]

122. "I don't really like to talk about my flair."

Nope, you aren't the only one.

[Chovexani]

204. Nope, I love that movie

I have a red stapler on my desk. :P

[DuaneBidoux]

42. The answer: no. That is why it is time to be very scared.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

11. Only if they're made of natural fibers.

n/t

[Maeve]

12. Let Banuchi start wearing a "bigot" lapel pin first

Freakin' eedjit

[Gothmog]

14. SPLC labeled this guy as part of Hate group

Morris Dee's Southern Poverty Law Center labeled this bozo as a hate group. This is just like the nazis

[personman]

15. Labels will make it much easier...

to herd them into camps too.

:sarcasm:

[Ilsa]

31. Are you being sarcastic about herding the gays into camps,

or the difficulty with which this would be accomplished? Just curious. I think you are on the mark.

[personman]

35. Sarcasticly phrased

as if it was something positive to do.

Not sure if sarcasm is the exact right word for it, maybe more like a devil's advocate sort of thing.

[Ilsa]

72. Oh, I thought maybe you were in agreement that this is what would happen,

but maybe it wouldn't be as easy as the reichwingers think it would be. They probably envision all gay men as weak and unable to fight to stay out of a prison camp.

[tnlefty]

16. Rev. Bill Butthead, transmission of diseases occurs w/hetero sex,

too! Are you going to ask every sexually active person to wear a label of some sort?

Approx. 5 yrs. ago the fastest growing segment of the population in my county contracting HIV was white females over 50 who were single through later life divorce or the death of a spouse. Yep, the deranged and deviant over 50 female crowd was actually having sex - GASP!!

[JRob]

17. how many years the Iraq war take off the average life span?

[fasttense]

18. Yeah. like the star of David the Nazi's made the Jews wear.

That sure helped society. :sarcasm:

we 'celebrate' a lifestyle that we know spreads every kind of sexually transmitted disease.

What the .... Let's see, last time I looked mainstream America was not 'celebrating' a gay lifestyle.

But about 100 years ago it was perfectly acceptable for men to have numerous mistresses, yet their wives were shunned for the same behavior. The rationale was that a husband didn't bring a bastard to the marriage but they sure as heck brought all sorts of sexually transmitted diseases to the marriage. That behavior certainly was celebrated, just look at the story of Don Juan. Women had a fifty/fifty chance of dying in childbirth, probably from all those diseases the promiscuous husband brought to the marriage. Yeah, heterosexual behavior sure sets the standard for health and longevity.

[0rganism]

22. or the pink triangle the Nazis made the gays wear

or the black triangle the Nazis made the lesbians wear

Credit where due: the Nazis really were the complete package when it came to eugenics-by-force.

[0rganism]

19. "Juden" all over again

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_concentration_camp_badges

[mom cat]

20. Hate-mongers should wear warning lables. n/t

[MadisonProgressive]

21. Here we go again - tattoo anyone?

[bvar22]

23. Republican Operatives

Republican Operatives Defending America
Checking Gays to Enforce the Badge Law





OOPS!
wrong picture
my bad

[UpInArms]

24. Fundies and *Co supports need a "W" for Wacko

on their foreheads

:nuke:

[Zerex71]

26. That'll just make it easier for them to be rounded up

and sent off to "re-education camps". Too bad the idea's been tried before and failed.

[mondo joe]

27. They say it's a BEHAVIOR but then say there are homosexual PEOPLE

They need to make up their little teensy minds.

[arikara]

28. How about instead, bigotted fruitcakes be required to wear a swastika

because all they are is a bunch of snarling nazi's. How do they get away with making statements like that?

First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.

[geek tragedy]

29. Phil Banuchi needs to wear a "Dangerously Moronic Invididual" sign eom

[scarlet_owl]

30. These morons should come with warning labels.

Unfortunately, they're everywhere.

[tk2kewl]

32. Christians should wear blinders

oh, wait, they already do.

never mind

[gratuitous]

39. Well, not ALL Christians

I'm sure you meant to qualify that. After all, I will be marching with several members of my congregation in Sunday's Gay Pride Parade under our church's banner along with folks from 40 or so other congregations representing all sorts of Christian denominations as well as Unitarian Universalists, Jewish temples, and non-sectarian congregations. So it's not ALL Christians or all peoples religious who wear blinders on this particular issue.

What I'd like to see, though, is every talk show host with a Republican guest for the next two weeks put up Rev. Bill Banuchi's hateful comments and demand that their guest either agree or disagree with this lunatic. After all, that's exactly what happens when someone makes an odd comment from the left: Every Democrat is buttonholed and forced to denounce the comment or the speaker or risk being ridiculed as a fellow traveler.

Let's see equal treatment for the Republicans: "Do you agree with Mr. Banuchi? Would you like to see, for example, Republican homosexuals labeled? Why not? Doesn't the leader of the New York Christian Coalition speak for all Republicans everywhere? Denounce him and alienate a bunch of people in your base, or we will tar you with a broad brush as a hateful bigot!"

[YankeyMCC]

33. Drives me crazy

how the media just ignores this stuff. I mean even taking a cynical look this sort of story ought to be a big ratings generator.

It just seems like more evidence that Rove et al have only given permission to the "main stream" media to make hey from islamic extremist and not xian extremists.

[proud patriot]

34. Over my DEAD body , My GLBT brothers and sisters I stand with you

Call me what you will , but what happens to you
I will endure alongside you .

[Missy Vixen]

104. PP, we're together on this

If there ever comes a day (and let that day never come,) that homophobes think it's appropriate for LGBT people to wear some sort of designated mark, I'll wear one, too.

When one of us is oppressed, we all are.

Julie

[Guaranteed]

128. For sure. Total injustice.

Will never happen, but if it does there will be hell to pay.

[AuntiBush]

166. I'll join you, as well. DU Straight-Gay Alliance!

:thumbsup:

[Rainscents]

36. These people are sick!

[Roland99]

37. Can we put warning labels on chickenhawks?

The rest of the world should be aware of whomever would seek to kill them in the name of capitalism...er....democracy.


And, btw, let's add labels for bigots so we can steer our kids clear of the closed-minded assholes.

[LynneSin]

38. 1-2 years with fucking cigerettes - hell my dad died at age 41

I think the cigerettes are about 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 more unhealthy than gays & lesbians.

:grr:

[oneold1-4u]

123. Where did they get their info?

I've been told that every carton of cigs takes 1-2 days off life! That's a lot of days for a 2 pack a day, 50 year, puffer, but it's a choice!

[ticapnews]

41. Begrüssen Sie Ihren Führer!

At least it can't happen here.

:eyes:

[UncleSepp]

206. Gleich wie der alte Fuehrer?

ok, bad place for a joke, but...

[ticapnews]

207. Kann nicht wieder getäuscht erhalten

As the president - ot Peter Townshend - might say....

[noonwitch]

43. Gays spread STDs? I thought it was promiscuity in general that did.

I work with kids-my teens get lots of stds through hetero sex because they are so promiscuous.

[Raiden]

44. What a fuckin' psycho

I guess they're not afraid of sounding like Nazis anymore.







Whatever happened to love your neighbor as yourself???

[yurbud]

45. ***Someone should ask national leader of CC and Bush if they agree

It would be a win-win for us. If they say no, they disappoint their base. If they say yes, they chase the last couple of sane people out of the republican party.



Hillbilly Hitler art:



Blog:

[OnionPatch]

85. I think you are onto something here

If you notice, the Republicans always do that to the Dems. Everyone has to state right out whether or not they, say, agree with Howard Dean's comments, etc. We need to start calling them out. Are the Republicans leaders on board with this sentiment? The American people demand to know!

[yurbud]

93. And if they agree, will Mehlman, McClellan, Rove & Bush wear the triangle?

Hillbilly Hitler art:



Blog:

[mzteris]

46. revered scientific journal my @ss

* . . . Psychological Reports, which was ranked 69th (of 97 journals) for impact in 1994 and 53rd (of 84) in 1995. Other approaches to ranking the prestige and significance of journals have similarly ranked Psychological Reports at a low level in comparison to other psychology journals.

. . .Psychological Reports is also different from the vast majority of psychology and social science journals in that it requires contributing authors to pay a fee (in 1996, $27.50 per page for longer articles). The practice of charging a per-page fee or requiring purchase of preprinted copies of the article is rare in psychological and social science journals. Such per-page fees are not charged by the high-prestige psychology journals (e.g., those published by the American Psychological Association).
http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_cameron_journals.html

[northzax]

61. and who 'reveres' a journal?

you revere a GOD, you respect a journal.

Paging James Murray, Dr. Murray, please pick up the white courtesy phone.

[BOYLANE]

47. nazis

I think there was never any doubt that these types are nothing but fascist theocrats. If there ever was any, this disabuses those doubts forever. Can you imagine the national outcry if this type of thing had been said about a minority other than homosexuals? I think it speaks poorly of our supposed ideals of democracy, freedom and equality that there isn't just such an outcry.

[Mythsaje]

48. Scary

and they freak out anytime anyone labels them "nazis?"

Hey. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it's not an ostrich.

[jbnow]

49. Oh no, I'd better tell my elderly gay friends

that they died years ago. I'd feel bad about missing their funerals, except they missed them too.

Honestly while I see the stats on the life span of gay men would be affected by AIDS (though my elderly friends are male) I am puzzled by their belief in the gay women part. Lesbians would have a lower rate of "every kind of sexually transmitted disease", much lower then straight women.
As far as that goes the old testament only talks about men that lay with men, nothing about lesbians. So...since they have fewer diseases and God doesn't hate them, shouldn't they be the only group not wearing a warning label?
Or perhaps we should just have men who are not monogamous, of either sexual orientation, and their partners, of either sex, wearing the labels.
As a straight woman I like penises quite a bit, but they are the spreader of those diseases. Why didn't God put a warning label on them?

[Zan_of_Texas]

178. Death & Disease.

These true nutball rightwingers WORSHIP death.

They hope and pray for the APOCALYPSE, for cryin' out loud. They don't give a whit about the environment, because they're all going to fly up to heaven in their birthday suits, and leave us sinners here.

They got TONS of money from the tobacco industry, from at least 1950 or so, when they met in a conspiracy to hide the truth about what a hazard smoking is.

Tobacco is more dangerous than just about all the nests of terrorists you can round up....

Tobacco use accounts for 8246 tobacco deaths per week (old CDC figures 1998-99). The US government says smoking cessation saves lives and reduces smoking-related health care costs and is one of the most cost-effective health interventions available. The government spends $520 million a year on tobacco control efforts (1998), or less than what we spend in 3 days on the war in Iraq.

As for who is dangerous, if you're a woman -- men are.

VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN
IN THE UNITED STATES
http://www.now.org/issues/violence/stats.html
National Organization for Women

MURDER -- Every day four women die in this country as a result of domestic violence, the euphemism for murders and assaults by husbands and boyfriends. That's approximately 1,400 women a year, according to the FBI. The number of women who have been murdered by their intimate partners is greater than the number of soldiers killed in the Vietnam War.

BATTERING -- Although only 572,000 reports of assault by intimates are officially reported to federal officials each year, the most conservative estimates indicate two to four million women of all races and classes are battered each year. At least 170,000 of those violent incidents are serious enough to require hospitalization, emergency room care or a doctor's attention.

SEXUAL ASSAULT . Every year approximately 132,000 women report that they have been victims of rape or attempted rape, and more than half of them knew their attackers. It's estimated that two to six times that many women are raped, but do not report it. Every year 1.2 million women are forcibly raped by their current or former male partners, some more than once.

So, the #1 thing a person could do to protect Americans in general, or him or her self: QUIT SMOKING.

The #2 thing, arguably, is to change the culture of masculinity from one of requiring men to demonstrate domination and aggression to a culture encouraging men, and women, to learn cooperation, communication, and respect for others. And, to learn that violence doesn't solve a problem, either between individuals, or countries.

[Karenina]

50. That THIS could be emanating

from your airwaves is PROOF POSITIVE dat summa y'all done SERIOUSLY, and I mean SERIOUSLY LOST IT.

[warrens]

51. Let's make fundies wear warning labels

Warning: I may snap some day and blow up your house to save you. There is a high probability that I want to have sex with your children. There is an even higher probability that I abuse my own, and they in turn will grow up to rape and murder your children and grandchildren. I am a threat to your life.

[2008]

52. Is this the same Christian Coalition...

...that just accused Dean of bigotry?

[tavalon]

188. Irony

would not be their strong point.

[GeorgeGist]

53. I'm grateful for Christians who wear warning labels...

Crucifix in the Cleavage is one of my favorites. eom

[Shallah Kali]

170. Don't forget the Ichthus logos on business signs, ads & cards

so you know no unchristians will be cleaning your house or doing your hair. There is a snowmobile store in my state which has these ads with a giant ichthus plastered across the bottom of the screen the whole time so you can know this is a really Christian business :rolleyes.

[0007]

55. .....wonder what the can of worms will be tomorrow?

[Montanan]

57. The first gay warning label should be slapped on...

...Jeff Gannon's boyfriend in the White House.

[geckosfeet]

67. On our way to mass hysteria and persecution by the Xians.

This is beyond an expression of faith. This is beyond a strict interpretation of the bible. This is beyond personal choice and preference.

The Xians have crept their way into the social consciousness with radical, bigoted, activist beliefs and proposals such as this. We have slowly been socially acclimated to their insanity so that when someone makes a statement like this, we accept it with resignation. This seems so much like the second coming of Hitler, fascism and Nazi-ism.

Why do we not hear anyone in our government crying out against this? Why don't we hear any opposition in the ranks or the Xian demagogues?

Tolerating and accepting these people will only embolden them. Most people who claim that God speaks to them are regarded as insane,, or at least with a great deal of skepticism. Somehow, being a Xian allows you to say that God has spoken to you with a straight face, and then be revered as some kind of semi-deity by your local congregation of psycho-babble.

I am THROUGH tolerating these people.

[Montanan]

79. Fundamentalist Christianity attracts people...

...who have fairly serious psycological and emotional problems. Problem is, it usually serves only to deepen their illness by giving them a certain license to continue antisocial behavior. Their leaders, who are remarkably unburdend by conscience, freely use them to further their own interests - which are Money and Power.

I agree that rational people should stand their ground, and call fundamentalism what it is, but we must realize that when we do so, we are confronting mentally disturbed individuals who feel they have little or nothing to lose.

[geckosfeet]

116. So what do you propose ? Tip toe around them and hope they

don't lynch anyone?

They need to be confronted rationally and firmly so that they understand there are boundaries around how far they can go. It seems as if we will be be watching people die before the government does anything.

[Montanan]

150. Just be aware that rationality angers Fundies...

...because it is "Of Satan". If anything, being confronted with rational argument only entrenches them deeper in their beliefs.

What to do? Tough question. How do you fight insanity?

[geckosfeet]

190. Compassion, love and lots of medication.

[Montanan]

58. Banuchi is just another bottom-feeder looking for his 15 minutes - n/t

[youspeakmylanguage]

196. Exactly...

Make an outrageous statement = attracting attention.

He is just a small slug in the cesspool of the right.

[Fight_n_back]

59. Maybe we should start wearing pink triangles in protest?

When the Klan in some Montana town said they were going to go after Jews at Chanukkah, everyone in the town put Menorrahs in their windows. It not only made it impossible to target people but was a very strong statement of solidarity.

Anyone up for it?

[baron j]

60. Let's put dunce caps on these conversative christians, and on

dumbya's supporters. Though the pure evil that billows off of them is warning enough.

[maxrandb]

62. Hello MSM!! Hello MSM!!

Could you please ask the pResident, Vice pResident, and other "prominent" Republicans if they are outraged by the hate speech on display here??

Could you pretty please ask them,

or if not, could you....

STFU about Howard Dean.

[Duncan Grant]

63. First, let me offer a hearty "Fuck You!" to the Xtian Coalition.

Second, let me thank you for all your homophobic "works" over the last 25 years: GLBT people are more visible now than they ever were!

Fascist-Christ assholes.

[Bassic]

64. I've always heard that fascism in the US

would wear a friendly face.

Well, turns out it's not actually that friendly eh?. Although Dubya's empty gaze isnt' very threatening on its own.

[BattyDem]

66. Since when are gay people the only ones ...

getting STDs? :shrug: :eyes:

I'll tell you what Banuchi ... when you and you're fascist, fundamentalist, whackjob friends are forced to wear warning labels which reveal your true agenda, then we'll talk about putting labels on other groups of people. Until then, crawl back under your rock and shut the f*ck up because we're not interested in your Nazi-inspired ideas! :grr: :grr: :grr:

[kweerwolf]

68. If they expect me to wear a label ...

... it fuckin' better be Abercrombie & Fitch!

:silly:

[ibegurpard]

69. Christian radicals should wear toxic radiation labels

They are a danger to a civilized and polite society.

[Turn CO Blue]

71. Sigh. I am so tired of this crap, some days I don't know if I

can gather up the energy to be properly outraged at these horrible people and their horrible agenda.

I bookmarked this thread.

[dave29]

73. White Christians Conservatives

Funny how they hate labels

[Orion The Hunter]

75. RE: Label haters?

Yeah....they get all coo-coo-bananas over being called "White Christians" but its ok to suggest one group wear labels as a warning? Riiight....that was an idea that has a history of playing out well...just ask the Jews. What a bunch of asshats the Christian Coalition is composed of.

[madrchsod]

74. interesting study by the f r i

if you can find out which f r i did the "research" google shows several of these outfits across america..

[insane_cratic_gal]

76. In that case, so should they

If your going to force some absurd notion upon the gay community, then the Christian Coalition has to to wear a warning label too. I want to know right off the bat, what kind of fucked up insane person you are before I even waste my breath on you.

Better yet, if a gay man or woman is dying in the street.. (wearing their label) and Christian coalition person is right beside them, this label saves me the trouble of worrying about who to save.

[anitar1]

78. Southern Povery Law Center has The Family Research

Center listed as a hate group, in it's Intelligence Report magazine. Family Research is one of Dobson's groups.

[Sabriel]

80. Here's a sample warning label:

Warning: although you may find this person "hot," there is no guarantee that this feeling will be reciprocated. Upon rejection, you should immediately remove yourself from the vicinity of the person and re-examine your assumptions.

There's lots more fun labels we could use. I can't wait for the bi labels!

[SlavesandBulldozers]

81. this from people who wear crucifixes

no sense of irony in modern fristianity.

[mitchum]

105. That's because they are death cultists

[SlavesandBulldozers]

106. agreed

:)

[newswolf56]

82. Is the Horst Wessel song...

...now officially part of the Fundamentalist Christian hymnal? Or do they still just sing it in secret? Or maybe only at cross-burnings...

(And, no, Virginia; the Horst Wessel song is NOT a Christmas carol.)

[donco6]

120. I've often wondered that myself.

Either that or they are so ignorant of history they don't even know what they're saying anymore.

[donheld]

86. Discusting

:nuke:

[auburngrad82]

88. Maybe all Republicans should wear dunce caps.

That way we wouldn't have to wait for them to open their mouths to identify them as such.

[bunny planet]

90. Yeah sure, bring back the Pink Triangle. It was such a hit the first time

around.

:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:
Can these monsters be for real? How much longer do we have to call them Christians instead of what they really are?
Give you a hint, it starts with N and has a z in it.

[rocktivity]

91. Don't discourage them--this alienates their moderates!

Keep being fantatical--do it for Terri Schiavo! Go, team, go! RAH RAH RAH!


rocknation

[derby378]

92. "Juden Raus!"

Looks like gays are the new Jews. Hold on to your butts...

[progressivebydesign]

96. Umm. lesbians, who are gay, have extremely low STD rates. duh n/t

[ekelly]

113. And I hear that........

....celibate homosexuals have less STDs as well ;)

[distantearlywarning]

97. Do people accidentally have homosexual relationships?

People are not like hairdryers. "Danger Electric Shock: Do not immerse in water".

People are not out there having sex with same-gendered others because they are unaware of the risks of sexually transmitted disease, homo or hetero or otherwise. They are having homosexual sex because they like it. Because they are built that way.

It seems like every single day I read something that confirms my belief that I co-exist with a lot of fucking stupid people. I guess this is that piece for today.

And as a straight-but-not-narrow person myself, I would like to apologize to gay DUers on this moron's behalf. We are not all like this. Really.

[KamaAina]

98. Warning: This homosexual may provoke irrational anger

when placed near ignorant, closed-minded bigots.

To avoid risk, please make sure everyone in the area has resolved his or her own sexual preference and/or identity issues before exposure to the homosexual.

:sarcasm:

:grr: :banghead: :nuke:

[Dr Fate]

101. Is it OK to call Bush's base "Nazis" now?

????

[indepat]

102. Should those of the religious right have a large "J" branded on their

foreheads to forewarn others?

[mitchum]

103. How about missing teeth on Christian Coalition members as...

a warning sign? I would be more than willing to punch these psalm-singing dirtbags in the face

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

107. We need a label with a red cross on it

for right-wing wacko fundamentalists.

(And I'M a Christian!)

[BiggJawn]

108. Is he talking about being a Single Hetero?

"...a lifestyle that we know spreads every kind of sexually transmitted disease and takes at least 20 years off the average life span..."

Single men die sooner, we've heard that for years. And if you're not with a monogamous partner, you're opening yourself up to ALL kinds of nastys, all the way from the biggies down to crotch crickets...

Sounds like he's talking about ANYONE who doesn't "live like HIM"...

Ass.

[TankLV]

111. Wow - I bet all the talking heads are just EXPLODING with all the air-time

they are devoting to this!

Right?!

Right?!

I mean, after all, that "kooky", "left wing", "crazy", "out there", "liberal" Dean is STILL being dissed as we speak!

Fair, after all, isn't it?!?!?!

How come all I hear is the sounds of crickets?

[Deja Q]

114. Heterosexuality spreads every kind of STD too. Let's crucify them all too

It'll mean no human race anymore, but do you see me crying?

It's not easy being sweet when the sweet are the most ill treated in the world anyway. (look what happened to Jesus, 'nuff said.)

[Sugarbleus]

115. How perfectly Nazi of them to suggest that again....

:eyes:

These anti everything groups really, really need their comeupance. I have the tar, who will bring the feathers?

[Sgent]

117. A Jewish Getto in Poland

held off two divisions of Panzer's for months with some smuggled in long rifles. City warfare isn't good for invading armies -- ask our troops in Iraq.

Buy gun's, buy gun's now. I'll bring mine to bear when the time comes, and be wearing my own version of hatered, as a band on my arm.

The terrible thing is that if not for my religious education regarding the Shoa (and half my grandmother's family not making it out), I don't know how much I would know.

:cry:

[geniph]

119. Fundie Fruitbats should come with warning labels

Warning: Listening to this kind of horseshit and general ugliness may induce cognitive dissonance, unfocused rage, incoherence and random acts of grisly violence.

[geniph]

121. I think his speech sounded better in the original German

what a freak!

[lisby]

124. And a big Fuck You with extra cheese

to our friends in the Christian Coalition.

:smoke:

Lisby

[Freddie Stubbs]

125. African American men live shorter than most Americans

Should I have a warning label?

[David Zephyr]

126. Why is only the "gay media" reporting this story? Where the MSM?

BS.

[Guaranteed]

127. YOU GODDAMNED SICK FUCKS (CC).

Burn in HELL, Christian Coalition.

Oh yeah. You're going there, whether it exists or not.

[oneold1-4u]

129. That certain xtian republican-

bunch will never need to wear any type of label! If they open their mouths at all, they are labeled by their ignorance and stupidity! The same applies if they say nothing, unless mute!
The worst would be if we forget who all of them are! There should be a name, picture, history gallery, starting with the worst and not alphabetically, but with * right down to every member of those kind of religions. We wouldn't hate or think of killing them, just knowing what they are because they always hide truth in their own closet of lies!

[Initech]

130. Zeig heil! Zeig heil! Zeig heil!

What a bunch of assholes. And a horrible analogy at that.

[Guaranteed]

147. And Rush Limbaugh says, "Why are they so afraid of Christians?"

DEEEEERRRRRRRRR Rush.

Fucking IDIOT.

[Initech]

153. Maybe Rush should be asking...

"why are Christians so afraid of gays"?

Really, I've never seen anything like it.

Reminds me of that sketch Dave Chappelle did where he imagined what it would be like if it became so segregated that there was a gay America and a straight America.

[meppie-meppie not]

136. Right..and how does a pink star of David sound dickhead?

:argh:

[flvegan]

137. And a "hit me with a hammer" sign for the homophobes?

Gotta be fair.

[Chauga]

138. Let's make bigoted right-wing tyrants wear the warning labels

[Zenlitened]

139. Christian fundamentalists are the most dangerous enemy America faces today

[arkie dem]

140. Christian Coalition members should be made to wear a

Bullseye on their back.

[meppie-meppie not]

143. or a muzzle

[karlrschneider]

144. Holy Shit, this Banuchi bastard is one SPOOKY looking jerkoff:

[Beel2112]

145. Yikes!

Okay, who's gonna do the Banuchi-Emperor Palpatine morph? :popcorn:

As to the article itself, perhaps the coalition needs warning labels too. For example, "Warning: May cause acute cases of stupidity."

[MADem]

192. Someone ought to follow him around at a respectful distance

...with a full camera kit and plenty of telephoto lenses. I'll bet he has an interesting private life; he looks like a bit of a Swaggart to me...

[tibbir]

148. This would be funny if it weren't so true of them.

[Miss Chybil]

149. I guess heterosexuals don't spread any diseases, eh?

These people need to wear warning labels:

"Christian Coalition: Predictable, Unstable and Fucking Nuts. Please, stand back."

[dsc]

152. In the lifetimes of all gay and lesbian people

it was illegal to have concentual sex in 14 states, including Massachusetts (2003). In the lifetimes of most gay and lesbian people it was legal to fire people solely for being gay or lesbian in all 50 states (1988). In the lifetimes of many gay and lesbian people being gay or lesbian was considered a psychological defect (1973). In the lifetimes of most gay and lesbian people one of the first openly gay politicians was assassinated in San Francisco and his killer (who also killed the mayor) got 5 years. (1978)

Today gays and lesbians can only legally marry in one state, and have marriage equivalents in two others. There are 14 states in which it is illegal to discriminate in housing, employment, and other like matters. It is legal to have concentual sex in all 50 states. Fortunately no openly gay or lesbian politicians have been assassinated in recent years but many hate crimes still get shockingly low sentences.

In short, it hasn't been that long since gays and lesbians have been without any basic rights. I think the time that people fearing a return to the bad old days being considered paranoid has passed. Given the source here, I will hold off on the specific report given here but it wasn't that long ago that ELECTED OFFICIALS were suggesting tattooing AIDS patients. I am being to become very afraid for myself in this country. I hope that it is an overreaction, but I would rather over react and prevent an non existent threat from becoming existent than underreact and allow a non existent threat to become existent.

On edit, the dates in parenthesis are the dates upon which the statement became untrue. Thus in 2003 it was no longer illegal to have concentual sex in those states.

[BrightKnight]

155. 41 Republican Senators have 100% Christian Coalition voting records.

"Forty-one out of fifty-one Republican Senators received scores of 100% from Christian Coalition, meaning they voted with Christian Coalition 100% of the time."



http://www.theocracywatch.org/

[Dudley_DUright]

156. John Aravosis of Americablog is not amused

The guy the conducted the so called study is from a group the Southern Poverty Law Center as a "hate group".

In fact, the "study" in question was done by Paul Cameron, the head of a hate group - literally, the Southern Poverty Law Center has labeled Cameron's group a "hate group" - Cameron was thrown out of the scientific profession twenty years ago for his hate research. But that doesn't stop the Christian Coalition from using hate literature and proposing Nazi solutions to brand gays.

http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/06/christian-coalition-leader-wants-gays.html

[adigal]

157. Did you know that the Jews were called animals

and drawn in cartoons as rat-like figures, and, of course, made to wear the stars so they could be "easily identifiable" because they would eat your little children (substitute "rape" for "eat" and you have what is going on today.)

No one had better say this around me - they will get an earful!

[CBHagman]

158. The rev. shouldn't kid himself.

In many of the supposed outposts of Bible-reading, salt-of-the-earth Americans, there's plenty of adultery, illegitimacy, sexually transmitted disease, pornography, etc., etc. Isn't wicked ol' Massachusetts supposed to have one of the lowest divorce rates of all the 50 states?

That clown Banuchi would have been picking up stones to throw at the adulteress of the Gospel, and Jesus had a few choice words for those self-righteous types.

[Shallah Kali]

174. It's projection, scapegoating, and moral relativisim

They are full of sin but at least they are not as sinful as gays are. AT least here is someone they think God will hate more than them. Maybe they will be missed when the smiting starts. Or maybe they think they can absolve themselves of their sins, which may include homosexual acts, by attacking gays a la Jim West.

[livinginphotographs]

161. What's all this about how "racist" Howard Dean is?

When freaks like this come out and say this kind of shit, all they do is prove him right.

This is your base, Republicans.I hope you're proud of it.

[PartyPooper]

163. As a gay man, words escape me at the moment.

So, I nominated this thread for "the Greatest Page".

This story is beyond insanity!

:crazy:

[GoddessOfGuinness]

169. It's just more proof that "Christian" is but a word

that can be used over and over again to mislabel groups of narrow-minded people.

I'm sorry that some people reach into the meanest place in their being to make such nasty suggestions. :hug:

[Gay Green]

173. This story is beyond insanity!

And beyond disgusting. :puke:

[PartyPooper]

179. You're correct, it is beyond disgusting, too!

For me it all became apparent on "election night" 2000 and the aftermath with SCOTUS.

Throughout the campaign my partner said, "Bu$h can't win...he's just an empty suit."

On election night he said, "After all, how much damage can he do? He will have SMARTER people around ADVISING him." :eyes:

Well, DUH!

I replied, "Just wait and see, he can and will do plenty of damage!" And, sadly, he has.

Junior has effectively stirred his evil Evangelical "Christian" base. And, they're against us. All of us.

:-(

[AuntiBush]

164. Is this what's next?

PBS Holocaust Timeline & Photos: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/holocaust/timeprint.html

[anotherdrew]

175. what's that a promis keepers rally?

[lakeguy]

168. screw those fake ass christians!

[enigmatic]

171. It's that's not straight out of the Nazi textbook, I don't know what is..

These people aren't even trying to hide it anymore...

[truthisfreedom]

172. you mean like those little fish symbols on the backs of cars that always

make me keep my distance?

[anotherdrew]

177. these people are dangerously sex obsesed

[salin]

182. headline we should, but won't see:

Head of New York Christian Coalition invokes images of early Nazi actions in his call for gays to "wear warning labels."

[Flammable Materials]

184. "Hakenkreuztians" n/t

[Endangered Specie]

205. nice...

thats what we should call these ultra right wing "christians", who actually seem to do nothing but abuse and pervert the religion for their own ends. Its a shame to see a good religion be destroyed by them, we should call them by a different name.

[Habibi]

185. Please visit the Rev's guestbook

Some mighty interesting comments there.

http://www.theguestbook.com/read.php/227958

And when you're done reading, sign the guestbook your own self!

[jonnyblitz]

186. I will wear one. that would be funny if we all started wearing them.

:P

[truthisfreedom]

187. zealots should be required to have specially-colored license plates.

we need to be able to identify these freaks.

[PATRICK]

189. The Christian Sneetches

are famous for trendy fashion and cult identifiers. It should not be hard to bell the cat and get them wearing one of those code crosses etc so that no one might mistake them for "ordinary non-Armageddon voting Christians. That and the signature fanatic saccharin smile.

That Sneetch story by Dr. Seuss stars the Bush prototype Sylvester McMonkey McBean(who robs everyone and gets away with it after they learn their social equality lesson).

[Doctor_J]

193. Is it now OK to compare Repubs to Nazis?

Hitler did this very thing.

[RedCloud]

199. Being a Nazi is inevitable to staunch conservatives.

You simply take quotes from Nazis, ask high school students who agree with them and almost all are republicans.

We had a Red Scare, but what, NO NAZI SCARE!

Nazis infiltrated the CIA and FBI.

Bush family values + Auschwitz + bin Laden

[Megahurtz]

200. What a dumbass idea. n/t

[Mr_Spock]

202. FREAKS!!!!!!! These people should wear labels!!! Christian FREAK label!

These Godless intolerant psychopaths have the nerve to call themselves Christians - they are Satan's followers in my world...

[Endangered Specie]

203. Only if they wear swastikas...

gotta be fair here ;)