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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 07:26 PM
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Schwarzenegger calls 'Year of Reform' special election
By Tom Chorneau
ASSOCIATED PRESS

5:10 p.m. June 13, 2005

<snip> Schwarzenegger's announcement sets in motion a showdown with teachers, public employee unions and Democrats in a campaign that is expected to be costly and bitter. Interest groups aligned for and against various initiatives have said they are raising tens of millions of dollars. <snip>

The state's Democratic leaders reacted swiftly, saying Schwarzenegger has failed to negotiate with them and instead has spent his time raising millions of dollars for the special election.

"After months of name-calling, finger-pointing and scapegoating, we have come to this point. Tonight, the governor pulled the trigger on a special election no one needs and very few Californians even want," Assembly Speaker Fabian Nunez said. "What this election will do, however, is once again crowd our airwaves with negative, deceptive political ads and pit Californians against one another. It will create a permanent, divisive distraction from the real issues facing our state."

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/state/20050613-1710-ca-specialelection.html


Governor Calls Special Election
Published: June 13, 2005

<snip> The governor wants voters to consider ballot measures that would impose a cap on state spending, redraw legislative districts and increase the time it takes teachers to gain tenure. Perhaps even more important to rival Democrats, however, is an initiative promoted by Schwarzenegger supporters that would restrict the use of union dues for political purposes. If approved, it would dry up a key source of campaign money for Democrats.

The governor is expected to call for the election during a televised announcement from his Capitol office at 5:01 p.m. He is forging ahead despite a recent poll that shows a majority of voters are opposed to a special election, estimated to cost anywhere from $45 million to $80 million. <snip>

http://www.sacunion.com/pages/sacramento/articles/5090/


Measures expected to appear on California special election ballot

<snip> TEACHER TENURE: Would increase the time required for public school teachers to gain tenure, from two complete consecutive school years to five. Schwarzenegger says two years isn't enough time to determine whether a teacher deserves permanent employment. The California Teachers Association opposes the measure, saying it's already hard to attract qualified teachers. If faced with a five-year probationary period, most candidates will look for jobs elsewhere, the union says.
Status: Qualified for the ballot.

CONGRESSIONAL AND LEGISLATIVE DISTRICTS: A constitutional amendment requiring congressional and state legislative districts to be drawn by a three-member panel of retired judges, rather than by lawmakers. The new boundaries would take effect as soon as possible, rather than waiting until the next scheduled census in 2010 when redistricting is typically done. Schwarzenegger says the current system of setting legislative boundaries, in which lawmakers themselves determine the districts, creates seats that have no real competition. Members of Congress and state legislative leaders in both parties have been wary of this measure but have indicated they would support it if the redistricting is postponed until after the next census in 2010.
Status: Qualified for the ballot.

STATE SPENDING CAP: Would change minimum school funding requirements and limit state spending to previous year's total plus revenue growth. Schwarzenegger says this measure is necessary because several of the state's mandatory spending programs - especially Proposition 98, which sets a minimum funding level for public schools - cannot be supported by tax revenue. Opponents say the measure would result in devastating cuts to public education and to local services such as law enforcement.
Status: Qualified for the ballot. <snip>

http://www.fresnobee.com/state_wire/story/10678776p-11462394c.html

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Chauga Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 07:28 PM
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1. Yep, let's throw out the Constitution.
Perhaps even more important to rival Democrats, however, is an initiative promoted by Schwarzenegger supporters that would restrict the use of union dues for political purposes.

I guess ole Arnie has never read the 1st Amendment.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 09:37 PM
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20. How would that violate the 1st amendment?
Labor unions (and corporations) are already prohibited from contributing to federal campaigns.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 07:29 PM
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2. Gerrymandering and Union busting
These are themes of this "special election."

Spread the word and use these terms as often as possible.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 07:30 PM
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3. Oh dear God this will by my 4th? time at the polls in 2 years
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Gelliebeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 08:23 PM
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10. yep hard to believe eh?
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 08:42 PM
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15. I think the Gropenfuher is counting on us having voter fatigue
but i'll be there at my polling place in the 3rd district ready to vote come November.
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Gelliebeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 09:45 PM
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21. lucky you.
I have those lovely Sequoia electronic voting equiptment so I guess it will have to be absentee. :( I hate Riverside county.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:28 PM
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24. i'm near Sac and we still have fill in the bubble ballots---for now
but i also vote absentee
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 07:30 PM
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4. Republicans hate democracy. - n/t
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 08:17 PM
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7. no shit, they really do. it's amazing you would think some of the
liberal journalist would call him on it.
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 08:07 PM
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5. He took a page out of the DeLay handbook with the redistricting thing.
Bastard.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 08:12 PM
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6. The right wing media won't admit that Arnold is trying to gerrymander CA
They spin it for Arnold saying he wants more "moderates".

The California government is too moderate - they are trying to gerrymander the state to get more extreme right wing Republicans.

The California media loves Arnold too much to tell the truth.

Imagine if Davis tried this - the California media would be attacking him relentlessly!

Instead they promote Arnold's plans and tell the people what a great guy he is.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 08:18 PM
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8. Something is wrong with Californians
The public refuses for some reason to get on Arnold's case about his refusal to pursue a lawsuit against Enron. That's several billions of dollars that apparently Arnie doesn't want to deprive from Ken Lay and company.
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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 08:26 PM
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12. What exactly is it you think we should do?
He's going ahead with a special election that a vast majority of Californians have said they don't want...what makes you think he would consider anything anyone says about this Enron lawsuit?

Even libertarians I know will just vote no on everything on the ballot.
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 08:20 PM
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9. OK, damn it
time for another recall...he is a nightmare!!!!
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tandem5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 08:43 PM
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16. hey not a bad idea... we got us a special election with plenty of
ballot space!
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 08:52 PM
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17. I'm emailing our Senators right now
care to join me?
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newscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 08:25 PM
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11. This election will be extra special
I think the Repubs will win and win big, but not because they actually got the votes.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 08:31 PM
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13. Do they have paper trail "Diebold"? I don't if they do or not.
If they don't... It's over, Arnie will win as they will hack the machines.
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tandem5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 08:40 PM
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14. Kevin Shelley (SOS) had ordered that there be a paper trail...
but they forced him out with a fake scandal. Now companies like Diebold are closing the deal on paperless machines in California. All just coincidences I guess.
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Fiendish Thingy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 09:27 PM
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18. It's the last election before paper trails become required In CA...
that's why Arnie had to call it before the deadline.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 09:29 PM
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19. There's a lot more in play here
The timing of this fiasco comes exactly like the recall : right when we are raising money for the primary and the candidates are trying to define themslves to the public. Since Dems outnumber the the Repubs, it will be to our disadvantage, because the money we would normally raise for various Dems will be spent fending off Arnold and Delay.

Same shit, different day.:evilfrown:
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 09:57 PM
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22. If potential Democratic candidates play a public role in the recall fight,
the publicity could pay off ...
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:32 PM
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25. Recall ??
Do you mean the "special election in Nov.?"
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:58 PM
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26. Thanks. Of course I mean "special election" not "recall." Pardon ..
.. my automaton-like lapses ...
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candice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 09:58 PM
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23. Schwarzenegger and the California "energy crisis" (Enron instituted)
I saw "The Smartest Guys in the Room" this weekend and was sickened. The so-called energy crisis was evidently a fraud (that's what I felt when the unprecedented rolling blackouts started). Why can some Enron trader call a power company and ask them to go off-line? The Groper met with Enron prior to the "recall" (such a personal power grab for Mr. Steroid). As if we needed an election (and the fake power shortages and special interest $$$ were the ostensible reasons). Groper has been on the take multitudes beyond Gray Davis. He needs to reimburse us Californians for the cost of the recall. I hope he goes down in a stunning defeat, worthy of a washed up action "hero."

From Common Dreams:

http://www.commondreams.org/news2003/1006-01.htm

"Consumer advocate with the Santa Monica-based Foundation for Taxpayer and Consumer Rights, Heller said today: "Internal Enron e-mails we have obtained confirm that Schwarzenegger was among a small group of executives who met with then-Enron head Ken Lay at the posh Peninsula Beverly Hills hotel in May of 2001. The meeting with Enron occurred ten days after rolling blackouts darkened California; Schwarzenegger has previously said that he does not remember such a meeting. You don't meet with America's most well-known corporate crook in the middle of California's biggest financial disaster and not remember. Schwarzenegger should come clean about what happened at that meeting and if he shares Lay's views on energy regulation."

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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 11:00 PM
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27. "Year of Reform" is doublespeak for "Year of Repression"
Just a glimpse of the future.
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