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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 10:18 AM
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Chemical Plant Regulation Being Questioned
By LARA JAKES JORDAN, Associated Press Writer
40 minutes ago



WASHINGTON - A Homeland Security official says voluntary security measures at chemical plants don't go far enough to protect them from terrorist attacks.

Robert Stephan, the agency's acting undersecretary, planned to ask lawmakers Wednesday to clarify the government's regulatory authority over security of the chemical industry.

The industry has resisted such regulation, saying voluntary protections have helped secure the nation's 15,000 privately operated chemical plants from terrorism.

In written congressional testimony obtained Tuesday by The Associated Press, Stephan says, "While most companies have been eager to cooperate ... it has become clear that the entirely voluntary efforts of these companies alone will not sufficiently address security for the entire sector."

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more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050615/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/chemical_plant_threat/nc:693;_
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 10:23 AM
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1. "Voluntary" regulations
Usually means they'll volunteer to do absolutely nothing.

Just look at what voluntary environmental regulations did for Houston.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 10:36 AM
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3. A simple fact. Agreed.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 10:31 AM
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2. Any Fed agency/dept. in this current government that calls for MORE
regulation of any corporate entities is probably doing so at the behest of different corporate entities who have figured a way to make $$ from the 'regulating'.

Sorry, Big Chem, but some other industry trumped yer bribe, err, I mean trumped your contribution
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 11:17 AM
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4. Ever hear of Blue Rhino propane? You can find tanks piled high infront of
Edited on Wed Jun-15-05 11:20 AM by dArKeR
nearly every large consumer store in OR, (Walmart..). (I also belive it's in CA and WA too. Wasn't paying attention at the time.) If there really was a terrorist threat in the USA wouldn't these have been moved over to another location over the last 4 years? Wouldn't a terrorist be able to ignite one and then whole pile would go off taking the entire store and customer with it? What is WhoreLand Security doing?

Nothing against Blue Rhino, We've used them and need it.
http://www.bluerhino.com/
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 11:21 AM
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5. Good point-OFF SUBJECT-what I have often said about "terrorists"
Lucky for us they either aren't very curious or they just don't want to take the time to figure out their environment. Without giving out possible ideas-it isn't hard to think of ways you could do really disruptive things with little effort.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 11:33 AM
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6. It's not exactly off subject because it's a part of the chemical industry
Edited on Wed Jun-15-05 11:38 AM by dArKeR
chain. It just happens to be the last link, "storage for resale to consumers". It seems our governments are more concerned with cold medcine though.

PS. I wonder if there are gov. rules to transport this stuff under guard but then there are n o rules after that and the freaks just pile it up at the store entrances.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 11:43 AM
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7. Maybe there should be a "No Movie List". It would be a list of all
potential psychos and terrorists not being admitted to the nations movie theaters. We wouldn't want to give out any secrets or methods for the Evil Doers!
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consuming Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 06:53 PM
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8. They just want to kill eveyone for profit
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 06:54 PM
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9. who is the" they" you are speaking of?
:)
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