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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:22 AM
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Scientists make blood from human stem cells
Australian scientists say they have found a way to make blood cells in volume out of human master cells, which could eventually lead to production of safe blood cells for transfusions and organ transplants.

Synthetically produced red blood cells would, in theory, overcome the concerns about dangerous infections that can be transmitted from blood donors to patients worldwide.

But researchers said it would probably take years for scientists to get to the stage where blood cells could be made in large enough quantities for transfusions.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/health_australia_stemcells_dc;_ylt=AvZOM_1G17XmrBXMgVtZK6qs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2bm5xNHVjBHNlYwNtcA--

When I saw this title I thought, "Wow that's great! Even with all the GOP/aWol carnage and lies we're still able to be the leader in science! Ooops.
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Shrubhater Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:23 AM
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1. .
:wow:
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BayouBengal07 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:24 AM
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2. The Fristians could shut us down here
But as the South Korean scientists showed a couple weeks ago, there's no stopping stem cell advancements elsewhere in the world.

Perhaps if science proceeds the way it has, and we continue to create great achievements out of stem cells, perhaps public opinion will begin to shift.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:31 AM
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3. Doctors should be allowed to withhold stem-cell-based treatments
from the religiotards.

"Sorry pal, you're gonna bleed out. When you meet the invisible cloud being be sure and tell him what a dumbass you are."
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:35 AM
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4. ::snarf, choke, chortle:: That one should have a warning label
Glad it was iced tea and not coffee with milk in my mouth... I think my keyboard survived... :thumbsup: Good one, MindPilot!
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:38 AM
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5. Congressman Dave Weldon from Florida
a physician and an Evangelical, has introduced a bill that would criminalize going overseas to receive a stem cell developed therapy. So, even if the research is done in Korea, and even if the patient goes to Korea for the treatment, it becomes a crime under Weldon's Bill.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:51 AM
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6. Have a link?
Thanks!
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:07 AM
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7. He mentions it on his personal (Congressional) web site.
Click on "Issues" -> "Stem Cell Research" (might be under human cloning).
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:26 AM
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9. Sounds like he's asked every American personally!
“Any attempt made to clone a human for any purpose is repugnant experimentation that the American people oppose. There are many ethical, legal and moral issues surrounding human cloning and the right thing to do to protect the dignity of all individuals is to pass this legislation through the U.S. House of Representatives again,” Weldon said.

http://weldon.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=25426
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 12:01 PM
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12. He claims to be an internist
But I think he is a cranio-proctologist -- specializing in heads up rectums.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 12:18 PM
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14. LMAO Coastie!!!
"cranio-proctologist" -- gotta remmeber that one!!!
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:24 AM
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8. Why, oh why
do these "evangelicals" so fight the use of the intelligence that "god" gave us. Maybe they believe God made a mistake when he gave us brains. :shrug:
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 12:07 PM
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13. Well, the Popes that I trust - John Buehrens and F. Forrest Church-
have encouraged therapeutic blastocyst somatic cell nuclear transfer.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:34 AM
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11. If you've got a fatal illness
Which would you rather have?

A life sentance, or a life sentance?

I could see a community of expat patients having a gay old time in Australia.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:28 AM
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10. Good news.
I wish they would define the phrase "take years" a little more precisely. What, 5 years? 10 years? 20 years? Considering that every so often tainted blood is discovered in reserves, it can't be soon enough for those needing transfusions.

Wake up, bushies. The world of science does NOT revolve around YOU.



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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 01:19 PM
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15. It's not just Bushies. Our DEMOCRATIC senate candidate
Edited on Thu Jun-16-05 01:19 PM by demokatgurrl
Bob Casey (PA) is opposed to embryonic stem cell research. What a big disappointment. There are other members of congress, Dem and Repub, who are anti-choice but not opposed to this research.

Interestingly, the Caseys didn't mind using organs from brain-dead fully grown humans (organ transplants for Casey Sr., former Governor) but object to cells from embryos that are to be destroyed.

Hypocrisy knows no party lines.
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 02:31 PM
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16. I am a pro Blastocyst Somatic Cell Nuclear Transfer - and from PA
and if I still lived in PA I would vote for Casey---->

    ---Born in the Monongahela Valley
    ---Grew up in Pittsburgh
    ------Pittsburgh Public Schools
    ------Carnegie "Tech" (before it became CMU)
    ------Pitt grad school
    ------Duquesne Bus Ad
    ---Political Activist in Pittsburgh
    ------Jimmie Cunningham's 7/11 Club
    ------Ivan Itkin's 14th Ward Club
    ------Democratic County Committee member - 14th Ward/18th Dist
    ---Left during the bad days
    ------When steel died
    ------When civilian nuclear power died
    ---Some family still in the Burgh
    ---Pre-need burial plot in Allegheny County


If I have to choose between two pro-life candidates --
---I will take the Dem who will vote to organize the Senate as a Dem.
---I will take the Dem who supports working people
---I will take the Dem who will protect and save the safety net
---I will take the Dem who will protect and save our "Social Contract"
---I will take the Dem who will vote for Veterans Benefits

I will not read a Pro-Life Dem like Union Activist and Anti-War Activist Monsignior Charles Owens Rice out of the Party because he is a Pro-Life priest.

I will not read somebody out of the Democratic Party because we disagree on one major issue -- as long as we agree on most other major issues.

BTW- I am Pro-Choice and Pro-Therapeutic Blastocyst Somatic Cell Nuclear Transfer Research (I do not use the pro lifer words).

    I WILL BE CONTRIBUTING $$$ TO THE WINNER OF THE PA DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY -- NO MATTER WHO IT IS


BTW - did you know that Orin Hatch - a Pro-Therapeutic Blastocyst Somatic Cell Nuclear Transfer Research Republican grew up in what is now Santorum's District - went to Baldwin Whitehall HS and U of Pitt Law School (where he was Dick Thornburgh's class mate)?
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 03:35 PM
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17. Well, better a Dem following his conscience than a bushie in lockstep.
Yes, Casey is a big disappointment on the pro-birth vs. pro-choice argument, but he's better than that ghoul Santorum.

I believe a Dem is more likely to come around to a compassionate way of thinking when the benefits of stem cell research become clearer. Repubs seem to be frozen in concrete, unable to break free for fear of angering their "base."

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