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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 07:49 PM
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Halliburton to build new $30 mln Guantanamo jail
1 hour, 27 minutes ago



WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A Halliburton Co. unit will build a new $30 million detention facility and security fence at the U.S. naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where the United States is holding about 520 foreign terrorism suspects, the Defense Department announced on Thursday.

The announcement comes the same week that Vice President Dick Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld defended the jail after U.S. lawmakers said it had created an image problem for the United States.

Critics have decried the indefinite detention of Guantanamo detainees, whom the United States has denied rights accorded under the Geneva Conventions to prisoners of war. The prison was called "the gulag of our times" in a recent Amnesty International report.

An air-conditioned two-story prison, known as Detention Camp #6, will be built at Guantanamo to house 220 men. It will include exercise areas, medical and dental spaces as well as a security control room, the contract announcement said.

~snip~
more:http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050616/ts_nm/security_guantanamo_halliburton_dc_1

:puke:
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 07:51 PM
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1. medical and dental? So they can patch them up after they torture them?
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:00 PM
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9. You're less cynical than me...
My first thought was the medical and dental facilities are covers for really high-tech torture cells. Or worse.

Tucker
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:03 PM
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12. That was my first thought too, but I figure they don't need high tech
torture cells when they can just have the men strip them naked, pile them up, and then have the women rub their boobs on them.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 02:08 PM
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58. Nah! They're there for stem-cell research. nt
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 11:30 AM
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54. Visions of Dustin Hoffman in The Marathon Man. n/t
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 07:51 PM
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2. And Dickie with a straight face tell us again way we should
not pull out of there...
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 07:54 PM
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3. Ahhh.. the spoils of war.
No wonder Cheney was so adamant about not shutting down Gitmo. Heaven forbid his war chest take a hit.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 07:56 PM
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7. contract is worth up to $500 mill
Under the deal with the Norfolk, Virginia-based U.S. Naval Facilities Engineering Command, Atlantic, the work is to be wrapped up by July 2006. It is part of a larger contract that could be worth up to $500 million if all options are exercised, the Defense Department said.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Tell me again, how we can continue to work with these thieves? :mad: Can no one stop this?
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 07:59 PM
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8. It boggels the mind...
they don't even lube us up before they screw us anymore.

:grr:
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 09:27 PM
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19. Their arrogance has no limits
:mad: :puke: :wtf: :argh: :hurts: :spank: :grr: :nuke: :scared: :thumbsdown: :banghead: :hide:
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:56 PM
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25. All the options?

If all the options are exercised. And I wonder what options those would be.

Gitmo Concentration Camp: Every room comes fully equipped with its own torture implements.

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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 12:47 AM
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35. no ONE can stop this.
only "WE" can stop this.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:03 PM
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26. Exactly!
Edited on Thu Jun-16-05 11:04 PM by struggle4progress
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 07:55 PM
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4. Routers news
New Guantanamo prison to be built..$30 mil..haliburton has the contract...anyone have more on this? I read it on my yahoo home page just now.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 07:55 PM
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5. Now we know why Cheney does not want to pull out of there nt
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 07:55 PM
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6. the announcement...
it says was made by Cheney...have they decided they can do anything..anything..and get away with it?
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shugah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:18 PM
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30. well, they can get away with anything!
it's going to be awhile before i can distance myself from the guy holding up the chicken, lemon rice, pita bread, AND two fruits! while he was doing that, i was remembering how back in the reagan years, ketchup was ok'd as a vegetable for school lunches.

there is a real irony here - i just can't quite grasp it at the moment... something along the lines of "they are eating good, what is the complaint?" / american children don't need real nutrition ... tortured prisoners at gitmo get 3-squares a day ... hungry kids in america get ketchup packs ... christ but this is a fucked up world we are living in!

i don't accept the nutritional value of ketchup, and i don't see how feeding well, the illegally detained and possibly tortured prisoners makes it alright? i guess the question is: would the gitmo detainees forego a good meal to be released? is that the conclusion we're supposed to draw? good eats makes it all worthwhile? :shrug:
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:44 PM
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15. BINGO
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wallwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:37 PM
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23. My thoughts exactly
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:00 PM
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10. 30,000,000 dollars divided by 220 beds? $136,360 per head? what is it,
a palace?

how does the military come up with these numbers? they could build a single-family home for each of these people for that much! with a two-car garage! and a modest car!
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 01:04 AM
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37. Toilet seats
They're Republicans...these are the same people who spent $500 on a toilet seat in the mid-80's. I asked my hardware supplier, he said that as far as he can recall, the price of a modest *padded* toilet seat in 1985 was about $15. Did you expect any less from these buffoons?
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 08:01 AM
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48. They could even pay the troops with that. Will Cheney never have enough
money? The guy needs to be in prison.
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:01 PM
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11. This war profiteering has got to stop! Halliburton should go down
with the rest of the criminals who lied us into this war. :grr:

Just think what all that CEO "excessive money" could pay for?
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:11 PM
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13. they should all go down...
and if this doesnt do it....if this doesnt do them in....then we might as well accept that it is us who have been done in...all of us and our country. This is a final slap in the face to all of us...and it hits home hard that our country has been taken over..and there is nothing we can do about it.
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NEOBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:56 PM
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16. There's ALWAYS something that we can do about this.
It just costs more than what most are willing to pay at the moment.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:16 PM
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14. I hear they will name it "Bushenwald"
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 09:09 PM
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17. is this different than Camp 6 at Camp Delta or the same?
if so, the price tag has gone up

~snip~

Camp 6

An October 4, 2004, Legal Times articles mentioned that plans were underway to construct a new permanent facility dubbed "Camp 6" at Camp Delta. The new facility would reportedly hold 200 detainees and would cost $24 million to build. It, along with Camp 5, would be the only permanent detention facility at Guantanamo Bay. According to the report, construction on the new facility was believed unlikely to begin before the end of 2004. Camp 6 was expected to comply with American Corrections Association standards regarding the prison's daily operations and to be used for long-term incarcerations and rehabilitations.

~snip~

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/guantanamo-bay_delta.htm

the number it will hold, 220 "men", comes close to a match

the ACA standards mentioned above might explain the emphasis on "medical and dental spaces" in attempt to deflect criticism with this timely Press Release

How many contracts and how many millions have the Pentagon handed KBR/Halliburton for Gitmo alone? There was the revelation of the 2000 contract, which implied early/prior contracts, too.

'Guantanamo takes on look of permanency', dated Jan 9, 2005,

"The U.S. prison camp for terror suspects is taking on a look of
permanence as the mission marks its third year Tuesday, with plans
for a new $25 million prison facility, $1.7 million psychiatric wing and a permanent guard force."

http://shininglight.us/mt/archives/2005/01/guantanamo_take.html

"Growth at base shows firm stand on military detention" dated
August 24, 2003

"Halliburton referred questions to Navy public affairs officer John
Peters, who said via e-mail that Camp Five will have about 24,000
square feet when completed in mid-2004. It was part of a $25 million task order issued June 6."

http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:-3MODGsM95EJ:www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/world/6604462.htm+%2425+million+contract+detention+cells++2003+&hl=en

same article title "Camp Five" appeared here
http://www.backspace.com/notes/2003/09/15/x.html

'Tilting at the Pentagon', dated May 27, 2003

"...Halliburton appears to be one of the main companies profiting from the war on terror. In May 2001, Brown & Root was awarded a five-year, $300 million contract to provide logistical support to the Navy. As of August 2002, the Navy had reportedly given Brown & Root $53 million in work orders over the past 15 months, including $37 million to build detention cells at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where terrorist suspects captured in Afghanistan are being held."

http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0503/05273db.htm


"As of April 9, 2002, construction of Camp Delta had already been approved and funded with construction having already begun at Radio Range, approximately five miles from Camp X-Ray. Construction of the new detention facility officially began on February 27, 2002.

The first 408 new detention units were completed by the middle of April, and done by Brown & Root Services, as well as Navy SeaBees and Marine engineers.

~snip~

"Camp 5 differs from other camps at Camp Delta in that it is a multi-
winged complex made of concrete and steel. It cost $31 million to build, is designed to hold 100 detainees and was opened in May 2004.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/guantanamo-bay_delta.htm

'Judged By The Company You Keep' dated 05/21/03

"Awarded a $9.7 million US contract to build an additional 204-cell detention camp at the US Naval base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba."

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3482.htm


I hope someone is following this, and can account/explain it all.

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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 12:21 PM
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69. It looks like they are paying multiple times for the building of the same
"facility" - not just the price of one of them.

But maybe I'm missing something. They should have, what, about 4 or 5 "facilities" now capable of handling over 1000 concentrations camp inmates now?
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 09:22 PM
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18. Didn't they used to jail war profiteers?
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gate of the sun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:02 PM
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20. dick and his friends
score again....isin't this what the war was all about making money money and more money for george's friends and oh yes......stealing precious resources from other countries?
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:19 PM
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21. Right on time, just like clockwork!
wait, what do we need with a new Halliburton jail when they have pilaf now?
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:36 PM
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22. A CPA friend did a worksheet- $731,000 spent on each inmate
Now they want to spend more? Bush loves lining corporate pockets with our $.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:51 PM
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24. Bullshit.
How rich do these people need to be? How much is enough? How can they drag our beautiful country down like this?
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 11:08 AM
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67. It is that question that makes me want a National Income Cap. n/t
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:09 PM
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27. Put Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rove there while they await their...
treason trials.

Cheers,
Lori Price
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:15 PM
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28. Hopefully, the Iraqi resistance fighters will get rid of it. n/t
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:17 PM
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29. I hope Bu$hCo
are put in there and not those of us who signed Conyers' Letter.
Over 500,000 in GITMO would be cost effective :sarcasm:
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LeahD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 12:24 AM
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31. OMG, I'm repulsed by this news.
What is wrong with them?!!
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 12:30 AM
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32. Forfeit Crawford ranch; Dismantle and auction off Halliburton;
And begin paying off the debt that this evil Bush family has bestowed upon this once debt-free country.



Sorry if this sounds as extreme as a Freerepublic post, but I think it's actually quite fair and sane an approach. That's what they'd do to me, if I misbehaved like they did. And then some.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 12:37 AM
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33. Nor in my lifetime are they!!! BASTARDS!
Please forgive me. But this is an outrage!!!
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 12:40 AM
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34. I beg the question, why has not Fidel thrown us out. What hold does the
US have on this island? No commerce, but we can have the prison of all prisons in the world? I'm very confused over this. Any one here have any insight?
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:27 AM
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64. Apparently, in 1903, as a condition for its independence one year earlier,
Cuba signed over Guantanamo "in perpetuity" to the US, in return for an annual "rent" payment.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 12:56 AM
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36. I guess this facility will be used to house the Iranian "terrorists".
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 07:02 AM
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38. that's where you LiberaLs are going - democracy camp
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Stockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 07:54 AM
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39. Halliburton to Build New $30 Mln Guantanamo Jail
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A Halliburton Co. will build a new $30 million detention facility and security fence at the U.S. naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where the United States is holding about 520 foreign terrorism suspects, the Defense Department announced on Thursday.

The announcement comes the same week that Vice President Dick Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld defended the jail after U.S. lawmakers said it had created an image problem for the United States.

Critics have decried the indefinite detention of Guantanamo detainees, whom the United States has denied rights accorded under the Geneva Conventions to prisoners of war. The prison was called "the gulag of our times" in a recent Amnesty International report.

http://go.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=E0CGABJXX3S0WCRBAEOCFFA?type=topNews&storyID=8820102


cheeky bastards... :crazy:
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RalphReedsWreckedEm Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 07:54 AM
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40. HORRAY! State of the Art Dungeons and Torture Facilities!!
I hate to say it, but Fidel Castro could cement his legacy as a world hero by sending his entire military streaming into Guantanamo on the basis that a human rights tragedy is unfolding there.

Incredibly ironic, I know, but stranger things have happened.

Imagine - a despotic dictator transformed into a hero.

He'd get invaded immediately, but the world would be on his side.

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BayouBengal07 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 07:54 AM
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41. This has got to be enough
People were outraged when Halliburton got contracts to basically become the quartermaster for the army. An energy company is providing food and shelter to our soldiers, in addition to pumping oil.

And NOW they get the nod to build another part of Gitmo?!

Have they no shame?
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 07:54 AM
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42. dupe of
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 07:54 AM
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43. Thank god for Halliburton
Apparently they are the only American firm with sufficient expertise to lets see; haul fuel, build prisons, feed the troops, build camps, operate trucks, steal from the government, do laundry, overcharge for doing laundry, and whatever else only they can do...
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 07:54 AM
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44. Cyklon B?
n/t
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 07:54 AM
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45. Cha-ching-Cheney's stock goes up.. AGAIN!!
Edited on Fri Jun-17-05 07:21 AM by bushisanidiot
wow. that old fart is raking it in from AWOL's endless "war on terror".
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 07:54 AM
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46. It just keeps getting worse....
Bush and his cronies don't give a flying fuck about anyone but themselves. :mad:
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 07:57 AM
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47. It will also include
a $12 million facility to make lemon chicken and rice pilaf for the inmates.

With cost overruns, Halliburton will probably bring in $125 milion. The actual cost of the projhect -- $2.5 million.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 08:22 AM
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50. $6,000,000 a year for the Head Chicken Chef.
Who happens to be a Bush "Pioneer", and is reputed to whip up a MEAN-assed Pilaf, too.
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habitual Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 08:17 AM
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49. Bad Timing?
Over the past 2 weeks pressure has been mounting to shut down or investigate gitmo. Did someone know of this con (new prison con) and want to shine a light on gitmo in preparation for this announcement?

I say this because it makes the whole thing look a lot worse when they had to come out several times this last week and defend it. Now we see why, and i bet they wish this could have come out under different circumstances.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 11:03 AM
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51. Halliburton to build new $30 mln Guantanamo jail
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050616/ts_nm/security_guantanamo_halliburton_

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A Halliburton Co. unit will build a new $30 million detention facility and security fence at the U.S. naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where the United States is holding about 520 foreign terrorism suspects, the Defense Department announced on Thursday.

The announcement comes the same week that Vice President Dick Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld defended the jail after U.S. lawmakers said it had created an image problem for the United States.

Critics have decried the indefinite detention of Guantanamo detainees, whom the United States has denied rights accorded under the Geneva Conventions to prisoners of war. The prison was called "the gulag of our times" in a recent Amnesty International report.
. . .
Under the deal with the Norfolk, Virginia-based U.S. Naval Facilities Engineering Command, Atlantic, the work is to be wrapped up by July 2006. It is part of a larger contract that could be worth up to $500 million if all options are exercised, the Defense Department said.

. . . more
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 11:22 AM
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52. I know it seems expensive, but wait'll you see those new
wide-mouth toilets! You can flush 2 Korans at the same time!
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SillyGoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 11:26 AM
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53. Anyone know if this was a "no-bid" contract? n/t
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 02:21 PM
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59. supposedly competitvely bid
The contract, which was competitively bid, drew fire from Democratic Senator Frank Lautenberg, a critic of past contracts awarded to a company once headed by Vice President Dick Cheney.

"After all of Halliburtons misconduct, why is the Bush administration giving them more contracts? Its just another example of how in this Administration, the foxes are guarding the henhouse," said Lautenberg.

Halliburton in April resolved a billing dispute that followed allegations that KBR overcharges for over meals for US troops in Iraq and Kuwait.

more: http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20050617/pl_afp/usguantanamoprison_050617185142
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ernstbass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 12:12 PM
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55. I'm gong to vomit
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 12:23 PM
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56. You'd think there was only 1 company IN america
And that be halliburton, oil wells, prisons, schools, dental spaces
and geez, maybe given that they are taxpayer welfare queens, that they
should employ more regular folks... maybe we should nationalize
halliburton given that they are a state sponge anyways.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 01:23 PM
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57. Do they detail where the chambers are to be located?
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Zerex71 Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 03:15 PM
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60. Hmm...who do we know that might benefit from this...
hmm...could it be Punxsatawney Dick?
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 10:11 PM
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61. Is it really so far-fetched to think that one day they'll build prisons
Edited on Fri Jun-17-05 10:14 PM by ailsagirl
for us?

It's not.

This latest news is apparently just another (yawn) day in the bushco crime family.
:boring:

I know it's been asked before here but how long before they start rounding us up???
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 08:45 AM
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62. so will the Corporate Media poodles ignore this one too??
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:04 AM
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leQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:39 AM
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65. i can hear junior now: those evil democrats, this'll really rancor their
butts.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:57 AM
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66. pardon me, where is this money coming from?
I didn't hear that this being debated as a bill in congress, military appropriations for Iraq seems to be approved in spurts, where is the 500 million for the new super bases in Iraq and the 30 million for this facility coming from, or is this just our social security money being squandered again.

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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 12:15 PM
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68. I wonder if they've remembered to include gas lines
for the ovens.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 12:22 PM
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70. Why not just appoint Ken Blackwell as warden? Worst PR move ever. eom
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