Wisconsin May Ban Morning-After Pill

[Rose Siding]

MADISON, Wis. -- The Wisconsin Assembly approved a ban on the so-called morning-after pill on state college campuses, a restriction that would be the first in the nation if approved.

The vote in the lower chamber late Thursday sends the bill to the state Senate; both are controlled by Republicans. Democratic Gov. Jim Doyle said he will veto the measure if it reaches his desk.

The legislation would prohibit University of Wisconsin System health centers from advertising, prescribing or dispensing emergency contraception _ drugs that can block a pregnancy in the days after sex. The state university system has 161,000 students on 26 campuses.
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Democrats said the bill would deny rape victims a chance to stop pregnancies and predicted it would lead to more unwanted pregnancies and surgical abortions.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/17/AR2005061700450.html

[ewagner]

1. Because

the repubs control the Assembly AND the Senate, I suspect this piece of crap legislation will pass and we will have to rely on Doyle's veto pen to keep it off the law books.

But that's EXACTLY what the Repubs are counting on...they want to use this as an issue against Doyle in 06. I think they've miscalculated its impact....

Thank God we've got a Democratic Governor!!!!!

[Occulus]

3. To which he can say

"Republicans want to make it harder for victims of sexual assault to be free from their assaulter's pregnancy. They are criticizing me for refusing to allow the unwanted, forcibly implanted progeny of rapists to be born to mothers who never, ever took action on their own to have a child.

Republicans want you to be raped, to like it, and the be forced to bear any resulting child. They should be ashamed of themselves for this violently anti-woman legislation. I have nothing to apologize for, except to apologize to the women on this state's college campuses for the behavior of Republicans who care more for a rapist's reproduction than they do for a rapist's victims."

I don't think it matters in this case that the drugs may be different (are they?). In this case, what matters is the public perception created by the republicans' actions.

The governor can easily spin this to their shame if he plays it right.

[aquart]

18. It's a Pro-Rape bill.

It assures a rapist that if he successfully impregnates a woman, she will be forced to bear his child.

[Frances]

2. So a man can rape a woman

and the law will force her to carry this child to term? The man has no repsonsibility--financially or morally. The woman is cast from decent society and the opportunity for a decent job. And she has the financial responsibility for the child.

Is this what the legislature wants? To turn the clock back 75 years?

[mgnk99]

4. christ....

yeah and i heard a few days or so ago that a local pharmicist declined to give a woman the morning after pill and she had to go somewhere else for it!

[CityDem]

33. No Way

I cannot believe this is happening in the America I know and love. It has only taken 6 years for AWOL to turn our country into a shit hole.

[xxqqqzme]

5. only 75?

that gets us 2 1930 and women can vote. The time machine is set for the 1850's I think.

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[Catfight]

14. the law of white men has always been evil. Rape isn't even taken

seriously in this country. Bush talks about rape camps under Saddam, what has Bush done for rape victims in America? Not a thing, he blames the women, prevents them from preventing a pregnancy that was conceived in an act of violence and humility, evil seed should not be protected. If Americans are to claim they are civilized, they need to protect and honor the women of this country.

[saigon68]

16. I AGREE, THE BUSH CRIMINALS ARE SEXIST PIGS TOWARD WOMEN

[Initech]

19. And then they go and hide behind Jesus like he's their excuse

For every single thing they do. Ugh, this country pisses me off sometimes.

I'm not female, but I think that if this law passes, it will take about 100 steps backwards.

[Lars39]

10. But he might get visitation rights.

:mad:

[RobinA]

6. I Always Marvel

at the "the law will deny rape victims..." argument and its underlying notion that a woman who wanted to have sex is somehow less entitled to pregnancy prevention than one who was forced to have sex.

[bicentennial_baby]

7. Isn't that nice?

:puke:

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

34. Shhh, don't you know, women aren't supposed to enjoy sex without

worry of pregancy?

Liberal minded, educated women who engage in sex for enjoyment(rather than reproduction)are women who scare the bejeburs outta those RW'ers.


Although, I don't know how effective the protecting rape victims argument would be with these folks. For some reason, I think if one of them harbored an attraction to a woman of the above attributes, they would have no problem raping her, just to take her down a notch.

I know that sounds harsh, but I do believe there is an iherent sort of sympathy that fundies and their ilk have for men who rape women.


MKJ

[Journeyman]

8. . . . all the more reason to make it an over-the-counter item . . .

non-prescription, no doctors or pharmacists or medical center dispensation involved. . .

[LizW]

9. Wisconsin Assembly intends to increase the number of abortions

They are directly attacking the ability of college students to prevent pregnancy. This will inevitably increase the number of abortions in Wisconsin, and they know this.

[dArKeR]

11. Repukes are really sick people! It has to be massive voter fraud for them

to be elected.

[UCLA Dem]

13. Stone age here we come!

[Danmel]

15. won't that just increase the number of abortions?

Seems counter-productive to me.

I guess they really just want to punish women for having sex or worse, for being raped. Just one question- who do these men want to have sex with?

[Stuckinthebush]

20. Indeed!

But how else are they going to get the momentum to outlaw abortions if they don't have the data to show that many women are having abortions?

So...ban contraceptive devices and eventually you get the numbers that will help you achieve your ultimate goal!

[Mairead]

17. And to think Wisconsin used to be more leftist than Massachusetts

[sybylla]

21. Hey, we voted for Kerry, too. We've just been gerrymandered

into a minority postion in the assembly and hamstringed by lies and the whore MSM. We're working on it. We have a Dem gov who vetoes all the crap the puke-controlled legislature can send him and this next election, things will be turning around. I can feel it.

[CTyankee]

23. Hi, Sybylla

I go to Door County every summer for vacation. We have a house there (in Egg Harbor). My husband is from Wisconsin and his sister lives in Madison where I have visited several times. I am so happy that WI remained blue this last election because it would have killed me to go there and spend money if it had gone red.

Unfortunately, my sister in law and her husband are both Republicans. I plan to bring this issue up to them this summer. My question to you is did any Madison reps in the state legis. vote for this? I seriously doubt it myself, but I'd like to check it out.

[sybylla]

25. I'd be shocked if any Dems voted for this

It's so extremist, and every editorial I've seen even in the Gannett papers calls it that, that I'd be shocked if at least one repig didn't vote against it. Of course they all vote in lock-step so I will see what I can find out.

[sybylla]

26. The bill passed 49-41

which means there were crossovers, though the only other article I found at the moment is not very clear exactly who crossed over. You can find it here and check it out for yourself.
http://www.jsonline.com/news/state/jun05/334409.asp

Here is what it does say...

In the end, Republican Reps. Brett Davis of Oregon, Jeff Wood of Chippewa Falls, David Ward of Fort Atkinson and Rob Kreibich of Eau Claire voted against the bill. Republicans Andy Lamb of Menomonie, Terry Musser of Black River Falls and Kitty Rhoades of Hudson joined Democrat Terese Berceau of Madison in indicating "no" votes.

"I'm not sure the gray area we're stepping into is right," Wood said.

Democratic Rep. Bob Ziegelbauer of Manitowoc joined three Republicans in indicating a "yes" vote. Republican Rep. Garey Bies of Sister Bay didn't vote or indicate a preference.

It appears your sister-in-law's representative, Rep. Garey Bies (R) of Sister Bay abstained.

Interestingly enough, they didn't mention my little puke weasel representative. I expect he bent over and took his pants down for the fundies.


On edit: you can keep an eye on this subject in Wisconsin media and press releases at http://www.thewheelerreport.com

[CTyankee]

32. My sister in law lives in Madison

and I just can't see any right winger representing Madison, it's such a liberal town.

Interesting about the Rep. from Sister Bay, who I assume represents that part of Door County. I get the feeling that Door County is a real mix of locals who work on the dairy farms and local businesses and the visitors who themselves are a mix of artsy, environmentalist professorial types and mid to upscale tourists. I've worn my Hillary t shirt there and gotten smiles.

[LynneSin]

22. Thank you Gov. Jim Doyle

This is why governor seats are so fricking important for us to have. Because a anti-choice governor (even a democratic one) can do more damage as governor than they can if they were in the US House and/or Senate

[Lindacooks]

24. Just like the Nazis.

They banned abortion too.

[damntexdem]

27. Reframe:

call it something like the Abortion-Growth Law.

[depakid]

28. What in the THE HELL is wrong with these people?

next step will be to ban birth control outright- and in fact is where many states in America are headed- to all the STUPID Republican women out there- I hope you like the consequences....

The so called morning after pill DOES NOT induce abortion- that's not how it works- maybe someone should have passed on a little science to the Wisconsin legislature- oh wait- Republicans don't do science-

Check out the Wired Article on point:

Plan B Ignore the Science

It tells you (with references) everything you need to know.

[saigon68]

29. These are Fundie Nut-jobs

And sadly there seem to be more of them

Who have recently had their brains "KICKED OUT"

or "SCHAIVOED OUT"

[truthisfreedom]

30. republicans HATE WOMEN. spread the word.

keep it up.

[sweetheart]

31. What about blue, cheap night-before pills?

If my email inbox is anything to go by, these schmucks are all for
making women live with the consequences of the night before pill.
Perhaps to be fair, they should ban both.