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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 10:31 PM
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Redford says he linked Deep Throat to FBI (Mentions Downing St)
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http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/entertainment/music/11924755.htm

Redford says he linked Deep Throat to FBI

Associated Press


SALT LAKE CITY - Robert Redford, who played Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward in "All the President's Men," said he used to speculate on who Deep Throat was and had figured "it probably had to do with the FBI."

Redford said the revelation that former Deputy FBI Director Mark Felt was Deep Throat, the Post's secret informant in the Watergate scandal, has him "waiting to see if anybody is going to connect where we were then and where we are now, because the same elements are absolutely in place, only they're worse. ...

"You can go right down the line (in the Bush administration), there's about 15 issues as strong or as big as the Watergate break-in was that have come and died out," Redford said Thursday in an interview with The Salt Lake Tribune.

He cited the fruitless search for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and the "Downing Street memo" suggesting Bush's officials tweaked intelligence to support their invasion plans.

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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 10:45 PM
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1. Fantastic!
And to think someone was on here just after election time claiming Robert Redford was a Republican! I'm glad to see that we've another person of merit who sees the Bush regime for what it really represents. Evermore, he recognizes that they have a number of things that are "as strong or as big as the Watergate break-in," but I must wonder if he REALLY knows about the DSM. Because if he thinks that is as bad as Watergate -- when it is a hundred times worst -- Redford's got some esplain' to do. It's nice to see that he is speaking truth to power. Think he watched the Conyers forum yesterday? I'm willing to bet he did based on what he said in the article. The Downing Street Minutes represent a very sinister element of the Bush administration, and it's nice to see that the country's big names are at least aware of it.

:bounce:
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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 11:02 PM
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6. Oh no, Redford's a liberal from way back
Back in the '80s there used to be speculation that one day he and Donny Osmond would run against each other for Governor of Utah. Of course, it never happened, fortunately because Osmond probably would have won!
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 11:52 AM
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27. Donny Osmond as Governor of Utah??
Edited on Sat Jun-18-05 11:59 AM by Blue Belle
Okay, I never use this smiley... but :puke:

Could you imagine if he actually won?? I bet that it would be the first time that "Mandatory Teeth Bleeching" would be added into the Sate's budget. :eyes:
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 06:30 AM
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17. Some of Redford's green background:
From:
http://www.grist.org/news/maindish/2003/11/13/kid/

Still the Sundance Kid
Robert Redford gets heated up about the Bush environmental agenda, clean energy, and more

<snip>

Redford's environmental activism has gone beyond renewable-energy advocacy, from lobbying for the Clean Air Act and Clean Water Act in the 1970s to holding international conferences on global warming in the '80s to campaigning for pro-environment Democratic politicians in the '90s (which he says he also plans to do in the 2004 elections).

<snip>

Solar is not a new fascination for the actor and director. As far back as 1975, Redford began working on short films and documentaries promoting solar power. More recently, he has been a major supporter of Vote Solar, the San Francisco organization responsible for securing $100 million in city bonds for investment in renewable energy and efficiency measures on municipal buildings -- a model that is now being adopted by cities and states nationwide.

<snip>

And about the bush administration:

<snip>

"The Bush administration has advocated the most destructive policies I've seen in the more than three decades I've been working on these matters. From the moment Bush stepped into office, not only has he been leading a vast and disciplined campaign to cripple environmental protections and enforcement across the board, he's been manufacturing more immediate crises -- war, for one -- that have kept the American public distracted and completely in the dark. And what makes our Republican leadership, both in the White House and Congress, seem all the more stupendously ignorant is that they're implementing these backward policies at a time when they could be pushing forward a new era of solutions -- tremendous technological advancements related to things like energy efficiency, renewables, sustainable building, and agriculture that are so incredibly exciting. It's as though they can't even see the historic opportunity they're passing up."

<snip>

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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 07:34 AM
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20. The 'Quayle' connection.
If I remember correctly, folks thought Redford looked like Quayle and wanted him to do a photo-op. I think that's where the 'republican' label originated. Can't remember whether he did or not.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 07:48 AM
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21. Robert Redford could NEVER be a Repub
Right after term 1 election, Gale Norton contacted Redford about some event she wanted to plan, and Redford, who plays a major role in the NRDC (Natural Resources Defense Council) basically told her to go f herself, as well as the administration. Redford is a MAJOR player in the environmental causes in this country, and has condemned this administration right from the start.
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doodadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 09:30 AM
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22. LOL!!! Can't believe anyone thought that
Robt. Redford was a Repug! I get emails and letters from him thru the NRDC all the time, slamming Bushco. He is a MAJOR environmentalist, and fighter for the cause. Anyone see Tweety's interview of him at Sundance? Talk about starstruck! And as always, Bob is just polite and graceful.......but kept looking at Matthews like he was some species of bug.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 09:39 AM
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23. Exactly
I was getting environmental mail long before the idiot in chief, but it was when he was first selected that I started receiving the NRDC materials.

If it hadn't also been in the news quite a bit, I could never understand how anyone could believe Redford could even stand most repugs.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 10:46 PM
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2. Yes, WMD's
Remember when Bush, Rumsfeld, Rice, and Powell all told us that there were WMD's in Iraq, totally capable of destroying us in 45 minutes? The good old days. Impeachment needs to begin.
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 10:50 PM
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3. There can be no other option.
The Bush junta must fall.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 10:54 PM
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5. That's not enough.
War criminals should be imprisoned for an absolute minimum of 20 years. I hear Alcatraz can be made available.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 11:45 PM
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8. I think I heard on AAR that theyshould be sent to the new prison
that Ha$$iburton is building in GITMO
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 11:47 PM
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9. Plenty of Room in This Prison Too -- Made Just for WAR CRIMINALS


If the Hague won't take him, we can always re-open Alcatraz
and give him Capone's old cell.
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 12:03 PM
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29. "I am your prison guide, John Johnson... but everyone calls me Vicky..."
:+
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iwillalwayswonderwhy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 07:24 AM
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19. And I remember so clearly
That one day, they all began to say "weapons PROGRAMS" as if a memo had gone out that said, "from now on, do not say 'weapons of mass destruction'. From this point on, please use the phrase 'weapons programs'. No one will notice."

If it weren't so tragic, it would be funny. Bush used the word 'programs' FOUR times in ONE sentence.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 10:51 PM
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4. a bit more:
"There are guys out there digging and digging. There are stories appearing every single day," he said. "But is it getting any traction with the public?"

It was 33 years ago Friday - June 17, 1972 - that burglars broke into the Democratic National Committee's offices in the Watergate Hotel in Washington.

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Can I just say that I love Robert Redford?
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 11:05 PM
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7. I wish Redford would run for office. n/t
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evolvenow Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 12:10 AM
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10. Agree! He is Magnificent! Highly intelligent, progressive, compassionate
and so talented. If we could get rid of the machines, and he ran, I bet he would do a fantastic job.
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mdelaguna2000 Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 04:37 AM
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32. Right!!??? An unbeatable candidate...
So articulate, intelligent, long record of integrity and activism... and star power for those voters who don't vote based on any of the above... I know lots of people who are bewildered as to why he hasn't run, best I can figure is he values other aspects of quality of life more, or something like that.
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 12:12 AM
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11. Wouldn't surprise me if this great American perused DU from his
homestead.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 12:20 AM
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12. Laugh from the Past...Redford public smackdown of Gayle Norton.
In 2001, Gayle Norton, Secretary of the Interior under bush* invited Robert Redford to join her in a photo-op releasing an American Condor back into the wild.

Norton is the right age for the school girl crush on Redford, and this was going to be her chance for the fulfillment of that school girl fantasy, arm in arm with Robert Redford on the cliffs above the Pacific at sundown.....

Well, this is Redford's response to Norton's invitation:

"Dear Secretary Norton,

I appreciate the time you took to write your letter of May 3rd, but found its central assertion, that somehow we share the same views on the environment, quite mystifying. In fact, as a 25 year Board member of the Natural Resources Defense Council, I enthusiastically opposed your nomination as Secretary of the Interior citing your career of opposition to the "fundamental mission" of the agency.

<snip>

For my part, I thank you for your kind invitation to a condor release press event and I hope you understand that I am not inclined to join such an event. Rather, I intend to use what time I have to do what I can to focus on the devastating environmental repercussions of the agenda you and President Bush embrace, and the decisions you are now making in your current capacity at the Interior Department.

The decisions you will make over the next four years will affect each and every one of our lives, and the lives of our children and generations of children to come. I respectfully urge you to re-evaluate your approach and consider adoption of environmental policies, which truly represent the public interest over corporate interests.

Sincerely,

Robert Redford
<end>

You should read the rest of this smackdown at:
http://www.angelfire.com/rant/pearly/redford/zzz-norton.html


Interesting bit of BFEE trivia:
Gayle Norton was a lawyer in the Colorado DA's office and was influential in the decision to not prosecute Neil Bush for stealing MILLIONS from the Silverado Savings and Loan.
Odd.
I can't find a single Google reference, but I AM POSITIVE that it WAS Gayle Norton.
The BFEE reward Loyalty over Truth, Morality, Ethics, and Honesty.

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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 12:37 AM
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15. That was a great letter....
...Thanks for posting it...:thumbsup:
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LeahD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 01:00 AM
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16. I like a man with principles!
Thank you, Robert Redford, for telling it like it is.

Thank you, bvar22, for posting the letter.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:38 AM
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25. Eggsellint.
Thanks for that.
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peacebuzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:46 AM
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26. This poster's comments are hilarious! LOL!
Edited on Sat Jun-18-05 10:48 AM by peacebuzzard
:rofl:
bvar :yourock:
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 04:09 AM
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30. While I couldn't find that specific detail about Silverado,
There's lots of impressive dirt on Norton here:

http://denverpost.ezboard.com/fdenverpostnewsfrm8.showMessage?topicID=103.topic

From Cradle to Cabal: The Secret Life of Gale Norton

<snip>

With Woodard gone and Gallagher's investigation completed, Gale Norton, the new Attorney General, took the investigation report and doctored it, eliminating evidence of wrongdoing by MDC Holdings and its officials, especially Larry Mizel.

And how was Gale Norton paid off? She was allowed to hire six new attorneys for her staff to interface with Colorado state officials, congressmen and senators. Eyewitness reports have described only two attorneys on staff in the basement offices and the other four attorneys were never seen. Evidently the notorious M &L Business Machines, a subsidiary of MDC Holdings, had laundered the attorneys payroll checks for Gale Norton's benefit.

In fact, M & L Business Machines president Robert Joseph testified before a US Federal Grand Jury that the payroll checks for Gale Norton's phantom attorneys were indeed laundered through M& L Business Machines. Assistants to Gale Norton were further advised and evidence was turned over to them about their boss's criminal activity and obstruction of justice.

Later when allegations of corruption concerning Silverado Savings and Loan and Denver International Airport appeared on an official report, Gale Norton again rewrote the report omitting any accounts of wrongdoing by her real bosses, Leonard Millman and the Denver Boys.

When Gale Norton left the Attorney General's office, she was rewarded,given a partnership at the infamous Denver-based Brownstein Law Firm.

So here are some of the connections. Norman Brownstein was on the Board of Directors of MDC Holdings, parent company of Silverado S&L and Richmond Homes, as well as MDC's corporate counsel.


<snip>

... and then it gets worse.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 02:57 PM
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34. This All HAPPENED....
Edited on Sun Jun-19-05 02:57 PM by bvar22
...DURING THE same TIME that Silverado and the question of criminal prosecution of Neil Bush and the other Silverado players was being disposed of by the Colorado AGs office. Gayle Norton WAS involved (instrumental), and Google used to supply MANY hits on this. Where did they go?

I saved some to an E-File at that time, but will have to dig it out!
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 05:15 PM
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35. I'm sure you're correct,
I just couldn't find it. ...So I posted the part of the tangled web that I *did* find.

... I've had similar experiences with Google, esp. after California's "Recall" election that stuck us with Ahhnold.
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 04:18 AM
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31. Silverado's failure actually cost taxpayers $1.3 BILLION
http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/dispatch/2001-03-16/pols_feature3.html

<snip>

In 1990, Bush paid a $50,000 fine and was banned from banking activities for his role in taking down Silverado, which actually cost taxpayers $1.3 billion. A Resolution Trust Corporation Suit against Bush and other officers of Silverado was settled in 1991 for $26.5 million. And the fine wasn't exactly paid by Neil Bush. A Republican fundraiser set up a fund to help defer costs Neil incurred in his S&L dealings. Friends and relatives contributed -- but not then-President and Barbara Bush, which would have been unseemly. ...

<snip>

There's always more to love about the BFEE, isn't there?
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mdelaguna2000 Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 04:40 AM
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33. this is priceless n/t.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 12:24 AM
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13. Go Bobby Redford - appreciate the input!!
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bejammin075 Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 12:37 AM
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14. Unleash the celebrities!
Seriously. If enough celebrities got on the DSM bandwagon, that would get the issue some big penetration into the public awareness. Another way that the neocons will have to deal with our volume level.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 07:05 AM
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18. Well, I'm sure Sibel Edmonds would agree with him.
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aresef Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:06 AM
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24. The Deep Throat stuff is old news, actually.
He was interviewed by Hardball the evening the news broke and mentioned he always thought it was somebody in the FBI.
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mandomom Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 12:02 PM
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28. Evan Thomas' love letter to Nixon and GWB
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