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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 11:12 AM
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Pentagon joining WH effort to boost public support for presence in Iraq
http://www.wivb.com/Global/story.asp?S=3496265

Pentagon joining White House effort to boost public support for presence in Iraq
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PENTAGON With poll numbers suggesting declining public support for the continued U-S presence in Iraq, the Bush administration is launching an all-out push to defend its policies.

The Pentagon will join the effort this week, with officials planning a series of speeches, statements, and events to highlight what they call "a year's worth of progress in Iraq."

Tomorrow, Lieutenant General John Vines, the commanding general of the Multi-National Corps Iraq, is expected to provide new detail on the move toward standing up an effective Iraqi security force and neutralizing insurgents.

On Thursday, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld travels to Capitol Hill with CentCom chief John Abizaid and General George Casey, the commander of U-S forces in Iraq. The men are expected to outline for the Senate Armed Services Committee the current state of the fight in Iraq and the progress that they believe has been made in the nearly one year since the establishment of a sovereign Iraqi government.


link to story: http://www.wivb.com/Global/story.asp?S=3496265
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 11:15 AM
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1. "what a tangled web we weave
when first we practice to deceive".

They'll choke on their own lies.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 11:16 AM
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2. What kind of "events" I wonder?
And what can we counter with? "A year's worth of death and destruction based on lies and profiteering?"
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 11:18 AM
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3. Everything is a big marketing campaign in this administration
Get the pom poms out for a big pep rally :eyes:
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Sticky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 11:18 AM
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4. Should read:
Pentagon and Media joining White House effort to boost public support for presence in Iraq
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PunkPop Donating Member (847 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 11:50 AM
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17. Right.
CNN started last week with the story on the insurgent's torture rooms we'd discovered. Reported without the tiniest little bit of irony of course. Hard to know how they can keep a straight face when they're dishing out such blatant propaganda.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 11:21 AM
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5. PR again? they will handpick their audiences
high brass military, replete with flaggy backdrops and eagles..what a waste of taxpayers money for yet another lame commercial for that traitorous weasel..
and in the meantime, the US public has more kids coming home in body bags..
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Tamyrlin79 Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 11:24 AM
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6. Style v. Substance.
They believe that stylistic changes to the facade will change public opinion. This is the same mistaken belief that they have about the Arab world in general, that a good PR campaign will turn everything around. It might, if the PR campaign were viewed as credible. But, when the campaign is just more lipstick on a pig that we are already well-acquainted with... well, it's not going to get them far.

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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 11:24 AM
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7. This shit just cracks me up
At least there is something about this godforsaken nightmare of a war that I can laugh about...

:shrug:
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 11:25 AM
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8. Send Army recruiters with rope climbs to some fairs this summer...
You can't BUY great PR like that!
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 11:28 AM
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9. Propaganda lyrics
By Sparks

Propaganda lyrics
(Ron Mael)
"Hello soldier boy,"
oh boy, shes spewing out her propaganda, propaganda
Might makes right, though you're wrong,
you're right to fight her propaganda, propaganda, propaganda
"Come to our side", she does say
"Come on over", she does say
Well I dont need more
Competition for
Her affection
You should fight on
Fight on
Over there


Where's your will to win, to act like Gunga Din
Through propaganda, propaganda
Where's your will to fight, to know what's wrong and right
And propaganda, propaganda, propaganda
"Come on over", you will hear
In a voice that comes in clear
Then I think of you where the skies are blue
And I know that I must fight on, fight on, over there

Duck that missile, boy, that missile whistles like her
Propaganda, propaganda
Keep your powder dry and always shy away from propaganda
Propaganda, propaganda
"Think it over", she will say
"Jump of Dover", she will say
Well I'm not about to be turned around about by this tactic
I will fight on, fight on, over there

Oh propaganda, oh propaganda
"Hello soldier boy", she is spewing her propaganda, propaganda
"Hello soldier boy", she is spewing her propaganda, propaganda
"Come to our side", she does say
"Come on over", she does say
Well I don't need more competition to her affection
You should fight on, fight on, over there

Lack of subtlety defines our enemy and propaganda, propaganda
"Hello G.I. Joe", oh no, I'll never go for propaganda, propaganda, propaganda
There's a loved one back at home, who assumes that I'm alone
Saying no to lies, saying no to spies
I intend to be her groom soon, groom soon, over there
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 11:54 AM
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20. Rove says circle the wagons--that's an Order
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 11:29 AM
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10. back to selling the war in Iraq
:eyes: How many times will we hear 9/11 and Iraq were connected? :shrug:
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u2spirit Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 11:30 AM
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11. The sheeple are waking from their slumber
Tv season is in reruns. American idol is over. Jacko got acquitted. If Boooosh and the Pentagon think serving us polished turds is going to boost morale for our continued invasion of Iraq, they are even more stupid than I suspected. I hope they do it. It will be fun watching them squirm all summer long. They would be better off dreaming up another MIHOP .
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 11:43 AM
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14. Suggestion to DU: Post the Temperature in Iraq Every Day this summer
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 12:39 PM
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25. It's a lovely 110°F over there
Edited on Mon Jun-20-05 12:42 PM by NYC Liberal
MON: 110°F
TUES: 109°F
WED: 111°F
THURS: 113°F
FRI: 114°F
SAT: 116°F

SUN: 118°F
MON: 116°F
TUES: 115°F
WED: 115°F
THURS: 117°F
FRI: 119°F
SAT: 120°F
SUN: 120°F
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Village Idiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 11:32 AM
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12. should be a 30 second segment - "a year's worth of progress in Iraq."
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 11:32 AM
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13. I certain that we can count on all those very sharp pencils
being held by that lively press corp to make certain that the truth about all of the lies spewed by these PR geniuses are pointed out during this great rush to sell the continuing fiasco.

:sarcasm:

They'll make certain that all those things that they know (like during the run-up to war) are told loudly and clearly so that the fine citizens of this country have every fact and facet upon which to understand the situation.

:sarcasm:
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 11:43 AM
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15. Pentagon means Rumsfeld which means this extravaganza won't have
any connection to reality whatsoever. And I think that most Americans know that Rumsfeld is a lying sack of shit with suffering from total disconnect.

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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 11:49 AM
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16. wtf. the military should be off limits to politics. period.
400 billion dollars a year so they can propagandize us?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 11:51 AM
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18. This should be good for a laugh.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 11:51 AM
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19. related: Bush Claims September 11th as Basis for Attacking Iraq
http://www.politicalaffairs.net/article/articleview/1330/1/32/

excerpt:

In remarks during his radio address yesterday, Bush seemed to backtrack on his rationale for war by stating that the reason the US went to war in Iraq was because the US was attacked on September 11th.

White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan said earlier last week that the war was justified because people from the region had attacked the US on September 11th.

Despite the apparent confusion by the administration about who committed the terrorist attacks on 9/11, up to this week, the administration denied that it had ever argued that Iraq was linked to or behind the September 11th attacks.

This new line is part of a public relations campaign designed to shore up plummeting public opinion, which fell to only 36% of Americans supporting maintaining the occupation.

<snip>

As a result, throughout the election campaign, the Bush people insisted they never claimed that Iraq was responsible for 9/11 or that Iraq had more than fleeting exchanges with some people later tied to Al Qaeda. In fact, they said, that no WMD were found in Iraq was not an important issue, it was the mere idea that it might have possible that justified war.

...more...
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 01:28 PM
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30. WTF?
"White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan said earlier last week that the war was justified because people from the region had attacked the US on September 11th."

IN THE REGION??? So if tiny Luxembourg sends a terrorist attack will we retalliate against France or Germany?
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 12:00 PM
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21. "Things Are Going Well on The Eastern Front" (sorry wrong war)


"a year's worth of progress in Iraq."
Is as delusional as German propaganda 50 years ago.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 12:38 PM
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24. "We're Winning Hearts & Minds"
"We can see the light at the end of the tunnel."

Different war--same lies.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 12:57 PM
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27. But, but, our new Wonder Weapons will win it all for us.....
...just wait and believe, you'll see...the Fuhrer has said so...
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 12:28 PM
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22. call madison avenue - they need a new war ad campaign
I guess "Got Death" wasn't going over so well....

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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 12:33 PM
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23. No More Propaganda - We Want the Truth
And the truth will set us free... (at least, it will set Bush free from all his hard work. He can go to Crawford, or jail, or hell, even. Anywhere but the White House.)
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dancingme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 12:53 PM
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26. Maybe they can get Bagdad Bob
to tell the American people how great everything is in Iraq.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 12:59 PM
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28. The White House and the Military Industrial Complex are going to work...
...in concert with each other. Wow, that earth shattering news....
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 01:19 PM
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29. Oh wow, you've convinced me, Rumsfeld and his boys are so good
How the holy fuck are they, having months and months to show of any progress (in their terms), not have been able to show any until now. And now they are going "all-out" to highlight that heretofor hidden progress.

Will Joe Biden critique this for us? (I'm not holding my breath.) He's supposed to be big on this issue of training of Iraqi security to take over the "war on terror", Iraq version. Now that he's running for president surely he will-or is he only running against other Demos? I'll bet you he will instead continue to attack other Democrats and not the Bush cabal.
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GoldenOldie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 02:10 PM
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31. Pentagon joining forces with the Whitehouse???
Isn't the comannder-in-chief orders to the Generals already?

What's with the "joining," spin???
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 02:28 PM
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32. Scotty McLiar could be correct on this one.
Were not 15 of the 911 Attack team from Saudi Arabia?
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 03:04 PM
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33. It's getting like Viet Nam more and more each day.
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 03:13 PM
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34. Did the same for No Child Left Behind
Paying people to go out and shill for what is essentially an underfunded, mistrusted program. This is their MO, essentially: if you can pay people to sweet-talk it enough, it'll become more popular.

Keep in mind that this is your tax dollars paying for the PR.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 03:30 PM
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35. "Keep in mind that this is your tax dollars paying for the PR."....
...Yep, that was my thought, too.

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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 03:47 PM
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36. and they're using our tax dollars to polish this turd. sickening.
they raid the US Treasury to steal our tax dollars to start their illegal invasion, then they steal more of our money to come up with ways to shut us up.

total treachery. IMPEACH!
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 04:23 PM
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38. Where would Generals Sherman or Grant be without the US Media Corp..
or with it? :eyes:
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 03:48 PM
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37. Gotta keep those military coffers overflowing!!! nt
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 04:56 PM
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39. putting a different shade of lipstick on the pig
Edited on Mon Jun-20-05 04:56 PM by librechik
won't help him sell it.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 08:37 PM
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40. evening kick N/T
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