Bush, Musharaff talk about war on terror

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Bush, Musharaff talk about war on terror

Associated Press


WASHINGTON - President Bush and Pakistan's president, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, talked on Tuesday about the war on terrorism and efforts to address problems at the United Nations.

The telephone discussion, lasting about 15 minutes, also covered the troubled relations between India and Pakistan and U.S.-led efforts to promote democracy in Afghanistan.

White House press secretary Scott McClellan was asked if the two leaders discussed CIA Director Porter Goss' remark that he has an "excellent idea" about where terrorist leader Osama bin Laden is hiding. McClellan said that Goss "was referring to the general area he's believed to be in. If we knew exactly where he was, we would go get him."

Bin Laden is believed hiding in the border region of Pakistan and Afghanistan.

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[Mika]

1. Goldstein

Orwell 1984 ch7
http://www.online-literature.com/view.php/1984/7

Goldstein had fled and was hiding no one knew where, and of the others, a few had simply disappeared, while the majority had been executed after spectacular public trials at which they made confession of their crimes. Among the last survivors were three men named Jones, Aaronson, and Rutherford. It must have been in 1965 that these three had been arrested. As often happened, they had vanished for a year or more, so that one did not know whether they were alive or dead, and then had suddenly been brought forth to incriminate themselves in the usual way. They had confessed to intelligence with the enemy (at that date, too, the enemy was Eurasia), embezzlement of public funds, the murder of various trusted Party members, intrigues against the leadership of Big Brother which had started long before the Revolution happened, and acts of sabotage causing the death of hundreds of thousands of people. After confessing to these things they had been pardoned, reinstated in the Party, and given posts which were in fact sinecures but which sounded important. All three had written long, abject articles in The Times, analysing the reasons for their defection and promising to make amends.

[dArKeR]

2. COUP IN PAKISTAN

COUP IN PAKISTAN
On Tuesday, the military closed the airports and placed Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif under house arrest.

The coup came just hours after Sharif fired Musharraf, who was visiting Sri Lanka. The general immediately flew back to Pakistan and was met at the airport by a large contingent of soldiers.

The conflict between the two men developed this summer after the prime minister ordered militants to withdraw from Indian territory in the Kashmir region, ending two months of bitter fighting with India.

Musharraf reportedly orchestrated the incursion into Kashmir, and the withdrawal of the militants was considered humiliating to Pakistan's military.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/asia/july-dec99/pakistan_report_10-12.html



Musharraf's coup


A beleaguered Pakistan military regime faces mounting criticism

In perpetrating a second coup against democracy, General Pervez Musharraf may have strengthened his own position but he has done Pakistan no favours. Gen Musharraf's decision to elevate himself from "chief executive", the title he assumed after the 1999 military takeover, to president, had been predicted. But that does not make it any more acceptable. And the timing was inept, coming as his foreign minister, Abdul Sattar, was in Washington trying to persuade a sceptical US administration to show more understanding of his country's problems.

Mr Sattar, who seems to have been badly caught out by the presidential putsch, conducted a similar exercise in London the previous week. Any progress he may have made has now been wrecked by the general's action, which brought sharp rebukes from the US State Department and the Foreign Office. Any chance that Washington would relax its sanctions has been blown, while the Commonwealth must decide whether to expel Pakistan when it meets later this year.

Just as when he overthrew Pakistan's elected prime minister, Nawaz Sharif, Gen Musharraf justifies his latest constitutional violation on grounds of personal duty and the national interest. Some progress has been made since 1999 in tackling corruption and restoring order to the country's indebted economy. Growth this year is estimated at 4% and exports and foreign currency reserves are up. But these advances have come at a high cost, with normal political life suspended, violence in Kashmir increasing again, and Pakistan isolated, especially over its links with Afghanistan's Taliban. Although Gen Musharraf promises to allow parliamentary elections by October next year, he is likely to retain his dominant, still illegitimate position, backed by an unelected security council. Public anger at Mr Sharif's clique has been replaced by a sense of powerlessness.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/pakistan/Story/0,2763,511917,00.html

By Vilani Peiris
21 November 2000

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Last month marked one year since General Pervez Musharraf ousted the elected Pakistani government, arrested prime minister Nawaz Sharif and installed his own military regime. Accusing the previous government of corruption and ruining the economy, Musharraf promised to bring economic progress and political stability, eradicate poverty, build investor confidence and restore democracy as quickly as possible.

Twelve months later none of these promises have been fulfilled. The economy is still on a knife-edge and there is growing popular discontent with falling living standards and the lack of basic democratic rights. The regime is under fire not only from the political opposition but also from its supporters in the ruling elites including among the military top brass.

At the end of October, a meeting of key military commanders grilled Musharraf over the record of his administration. According to an Agence France-Presse report: “Political and diplomatic sources said that the commanders discussed plans to appoint a civilian prime minister to deflect public anger from the military, should the situation deteriorate further.”

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2000/nov2000/pak-n21.shtml

[Javaman]

3. Wow, Porter(damn this job is hard)Goss, just said they know where OBL

is and they can't go after him because of the the sovereign nation thingy. But wouldn't name the nation, funny how that is. Pick a nation any nation. They we will attack it.
And now moron* and the far east moron agree that OBL is in Pakistan? so what the fuck?? Bushistan is one of our "allies" right? So tell that fucking pakistan asshole to get his ass in gear and get him, right? And let me hold my breath until I turn blue.
Also just this week on ass cable new tv, two talking heads, spouted how they believe OBL is in Iran.
More well constructed bullshit. They didn't lie, they just didn't tell the truth. Semantics.
But it appears that moron* can't even keep his lies straight.
They infer Iran, all of their arrows point to Iran, yet he talks about OBL is in Pakistan.
Another reason that moron goss and moron* in charge are yanking our chains so they can attack Iran.
Colossal jackass failure*.