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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 12:04 PM
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Frist Says No New Vote Planned for Bolton
By LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writer
1 minute ago



WASHINGTON - Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist announced Tuesday that he won't schedule another vote on John Bolton's nomination as U.S. ambassador to the United Nations.

In so doing, the Tennessee Republican acknowledged there was nothing further he could do to break a Democratic stalemate with the Bush White House over Bolton.

"That's been exhausted," Frist said a day after Democrats again blocked a vote on the floor on Bolton's nomination. It was the second time the minority party in the Senate mustered enough votes to prevent Bolton's confirmation process from advancing.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050621/ap_on_go_co/un_ambassador;_
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 12:06 PM
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1. They don't need another vote
He is going to be crammed down our throat during the recess.
BUT...at least we held to our principles.
Now the entire world can see another example of unmitigated arrogance of this administration.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 12:07 PM
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2. He's giving up.
However, the fix is in: recess appointment.
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 12:07 PM
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3. Sure, because he knows CCB will appoint Bolton while
the Senate is in summer recess. Assh*le, does he really think people are that stupid???

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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 12:08 PM
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4. aWoL will give him a 'Recess appointment'
but it is messing with their plans to get started with the attack on Iran. :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 12:09 PM
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5. I wish that meant what it SHOULD mean,
if you know what I mean :P

(what I mean is - They should just give up and move on. But Bush will likely give him a recess appointment, as others have pointed out, and that SUCKS!)
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hopein08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 12:09 PM
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6. Should we be happy or sad about that?
It could mean two things....

1) Republicans could be pushing W to withdraw Bolton and put up somebody new

or

2) Door is open for recess appointment

Please, oh please, let it be #1
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 12:10 PM
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7. Why do they always present the story as Democrats blocking a vote
The vote is for cloture and the repukes FAILED to pass that vote. There was no "vote on the floor on Bolton's nomination", that would have to come AFTER cloture was PASSED and the repukes FAILED on doing that. The repukes need 60 votes for cloture and could only garner 54, THEY failed, the Dems didn't block any Bolton vote because the REPUKES ARE FAILURES.
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 01:06 PM
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29. Besides some repukes voted to block it so it was dems and repukes.
Isn't that referred to as accurate journalism or used to be before the runaway bride became the most important story in our country for days on end and is still being reported on by media whores.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 12:10 PM
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8. But How Long Does A Recess Apointment Last For?
I thought recess appointments weren't permanent...IOW, at some point the Senate is going to have to approve him though, correct?
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 12:12 PM
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10. until Jan 2007
Edited on Tue Jun-21-05 12:16 PM by maddezmom
edited to add link:

Wielding a seldom-used power, he could install Bolton during the Senate's upcoming July 4 recess without the chamber's approval. Under the Constitution, the so-called recess appointment would only last through the next one-year session of Congress — in Bolton's case until January 2007.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050620/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/un_ambassador
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LiberallyInclined Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 12:15 PM
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14. until january 2007.
is when the recess appointment will last.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 12:18 PM
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17. Not necessarily.
It will only last until the 110th Congress convenes in January 2007.

However if the Senate is still hostile toward Bolton, he could recess appoint him again.

This is a different situation than with judges, since Bolton only lasts as long as Bush does, whereas judges serve life-time terms.
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No Michael Savage Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 12:11 PM
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Oh hell
Now Bu$h is going to most likely recess appoint him, especially after he said yesterday he won't give up on Bolton no matter what.

Do we need anymore proof that Bu$h thinks he can do whatever he wants and the senate be damned.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 12:15 PM
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12. They would rather keep the documents secret
Than have Bolton legitimately. What's in those documents?
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sidpleasant Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 01:02 PM
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28. Names of Bush contributors who violated the Iraq sanctions, I'd bet
For all the Republicans' fake outrage about an alleged "Oil For Food" scandal it's worth noting that the only company that's been indicted so far is an Ameriacn oil company from Texas.
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rustydog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 12:11 PM
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9. Frist, Delay and Bush used more energy in the Schiavo debacle
than they did on Bolton. Maybe they are starting to understand they are not absolute after all.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 12:14 PM
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11. I want my abstinence only education.
:rofl:
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 12:15 PM
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13. maybe a recess appointment isn't so bad
It will be transparent to everyone at the UN that Bolton got in on a technicality, and his effectiveness as an ambassador may be limited.

What's really important is that finally the Democrats in Congress got their act together and did all they could within the rules to keep Bush from getting his way. This is a small victory, but an important one.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 12:17 PM
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16. Don't Worry,...
there's still time for a compromise.:eyes:

Jay
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No Michael Savage Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 12:29 PM
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21. I doubt it
Bolton will act in the same insane way at the UN regardless of how he gets in.
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 12:17 PM
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15. They've updated the article.
It now reads:

WASHINGTON - Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist announced Tuesday that he won't schedule another vote on John Bolton's nomination as U.S. ambassador to the United Nations.

In so doing, the Tennessee Republican acknowledged there was nothing further he could do to break a Democratic stalemate with the Bush White House over Bolton.

"That's been exhausted," Frist said a day after Democrats again blocked a vote on the floor on Bolton's nomination. It was the second time the minority party in the Senate mustered enough votes to prevent Bolton's confirmation process from advancing.

Asked about Frist's remarks, White House spokesman Scott McClellan said, "We'll continue to work with the Senate leadership."

Frist said that "at this juncture, we have to go back to the president and see what the decision he's going to make is."

He said scheduling a third vote now would be fruitless because Democrats will just keep stalling over information they are demanding from the White House.

"Whether it is politics or whatever their concerns are with, the goal posts constantly shifting. Bringing up another vote's not going to change anything," Frist said.

The White House earlier Tuesday has issued a new call for a vote on the nomination, accusing Democrats of being unwilling to compromise. "They're only interested in blocking this nomination from moving forward," McCellan said at the time
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 12:22 PM
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18. And they're only interested in making this nomination happen.
Both sides are playing the game and there is no shame in it yet.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 12:27 PM
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20. why is it that the "goal post is shifting" quote is printed
constantly but no one ever challenges it? My understanding is that these are the same damned documents the Democrats have been asking for since April.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 12:58 PM
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27. We DO want to compromise!
They give us the documents, we let them have a vote!

It is the WH that is blocking the vote!
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 12:26 PM
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19. If they do push through a recess appointment, and it is likely that they
will. It will be a very transparent example of how they will do anything to get their way. I think it might have some public relations backlash for them. Their arrogance and power hungriness knows no bounds.
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remfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 12:33 PM
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22. He CAN'T hold another vote
Dammit, this is just infuriating.

Frist voted AYE yesterday, and by doing so he gave up the right to RECONSIDER the vote.

:grr: The GOP is playing theater and the stupid media is playing along. The majority party FAILED to muster the 60 votes required to end debate.

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No Michael Savage Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 12:36 PM
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23. It won't work
The republican will just say all he needs is 51 votes and he got that, so the "bipartisan majority" wants Bolton.

I can't believe all that hard work for Bu$h to just recess appoint him. What a crock.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 12:37 PM
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24. With a recess appointment, Bolton's influence at the UN
will be less than zilch, imo, not that it would be worth much anyway. The debate over his appointment will have been watched very carefully by those in the UN and his total unsuitability will be very well known.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 12:39 PM
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25. We can count on a recess appointment for Bolton. Bank on it.
For * to back down by withdrawing his nomination and offering a less controversial figure is not what tyrants and bullies are about. It makes no difference in *'s mind how "wrong" he is... * and his lieutenants define themselves only with raw, aggressive power, to whip and crush all who disagree with them.

But the main reason * will force Bolton on us is that * has a specific job for Bolton, and that is to finish off the U. N., once and for all, so that * never has to dilly-dally with U. N. resolutions before can giddyap into more countries' bidness. It is a rotten shame that the U. N. may very well be the only way *'s behind could be saved now, before he commits more aggression. My guess is that * would rather rape the world than ever admit he ever makes a mistake.

These people are addicted to absolute power.

So say hello to U. N. Ambassador Bolton.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 12:51 PM
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26. Yup. And that will officially make us a banana republic....
...in the eyes of the rest of the world. We've been mighty close to that already, but a dictatorial recess appointment will push us across the line on that perception.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 01:17 PM
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30. LINK UPDATED: Frist Reverses Himself, Pushes Bolton Vote
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 01:22 PM
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31. This news has been reversed
At the request of the original poster, this thread is locked since it is no longer correct
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