Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

China's Haier bids $1.28 bln for Maytag

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 03:24 PM
Original message
China's Haier bids $1.28 bln for Maytag
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050621/bs_nm/manufacturing_maytag_dc

SHANGHAI (Reuters) - Haier Group, the top Chinese appliance maker, and private equity giants Bain Capital and Blackstone Group have bid $1.28 billion for Maytag Corp., the No. 4 U.S. appliance maker, topping an offer from U.S. private equity firm Ripplewood Holdings LLC.


Haier's global ambitions would be boosted by adding Maytag, which also makes Hoover vacuums and Amana and Jenn-Air appliances. Maytag (NYSE:MYG - news) has fallen on tough times amid rising raw material costs and competition from lower-cost makers.

Maytag shares rose 5.4 percent on Tuesday on the New York Stock Exchange.

"Haier would get an instant credible product line," said Longbow Research analyst David MacGregor. "Longer term that could make them a competitive force to be reckoned with."

"We continue to support the Ripplewood transaction," Howard Clark, Maytag's lead director, said in a statement. "However, we also believe that it is incumbent on us to pursue this possibility of achieving a higher price for our stockholders."

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 03:35 PM
Response to Original message
1. Maytags were manufactured in Newton, Iowa
People from Newton and the surrounding areas are not like people from anywhere else. They are conscientious, careful -- really great, smart people. I've had my Maytag washer for 20 years now -- raised two children on it -- and it's still going strong with only two small repairs. But, the Maytag that made my washer no longer exists. Outsourcing has destroyed it. Remember the Maytag repairman who had nothing to do? I'll bet no one would believe that ad today. The global economy has lowered the quality of the goods we buy and many of the services we get. Global economy -- global economic destruction -- another sad sign of our times and the conservative trend.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 03:50 PM
Response to Reply #1
4. Screw Maytag
Edited on Tue Jun-21-05 03:50 PM by Bluzmann57
Yeah I know all about the Newton, Iowa connection and even the Amana connection, but they shut down a huge plant in Galesburg, IL (about 50 miles from here) which put around 1600 people out of work. These were good Union jobs which have now been outsourced to Mexico. To make matters worse, the plant can be seen by simply standing at the bridge in Brownsville, Texas. It's almost like they are taunting American workers. A local TV station actually went to Matamoros and did a report on the Maytag plant down there. Apparently, they treat the emplyees like crap and the employees don't make enough to buy any Maytag appliances. I will never ever buy any Maytag product.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 07:02 PM
Response to Reply #4
14. Really? I thought they were made in America, that's why I bought mine..
:(


ugh
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 07:02 PM
Response to Reply #4
15. Mine is broken right now, Maytag repairman coming tommorrow..
:(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
justinsb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 03:39 PM
Response to Original message
2. It doesn't matter
China is buying the majority of the debt (bonds) being sold to cover the defeceit. That means for many many years 1/4 or so of the US federal budget will be handed directly over to China for the forseeable future. It also means that the US can't do anything to upset China because the Chinese could call in those bonds and plunge the US into a severe depression with a phone call. Maytag is just one company. There are much larger problems.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SlipperySlope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 03:50 PM
Response to Reply #2
5. Not quite...
Close, but two corrections and a general observation.

1: China does not buy the "majority" (over 50%) of US bonds, but it does buy a substantial number. It currently is the #2 government holder with about 12% of the total.

2: China can't "call" the bonds and force repayment, as the bonds are all for a fixed number of years. China could stop purchasing Bonds, or alternatively, signal their intent to sell these bonds in large quantities.

However, China is currently sitting on $230B of US debt. China would have to consider the damage that would be done to their banking system by anything they do that triggers a sudden devaluation of the dollar.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 05:16 PM
Response to Reply #5
12. that would be how China goes...
They would stop buying our bonds.

alternatively, their currency is currently tied to the dollar, which gives them incentive to not let the dollar go too low. If they decide to either switch their currency to be tied to the Euro, or to let their yuan float on the open market, they would no longer have an incentive to buy the dollar... and the dollar would plunge.

Of course, if our economy went into recession (or worse), then China & Japan would both be significantly hurt, as we're still their #1 consumer market.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SlipperySlope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 08:11 PM
Response to Reply #12
16. They already stopped (or slowed down)...
China more or less stopped buying our bonds from November to March and it didn't trigger an immediate disaster. Other countries remain more than willing (for now) to step up to keep the dollar up, and they all have their own reasons for doing so.

It remains to be seen what will happen when the Yuan floats. Certainly the Yuan will appeciate 40%+ relative to the dollar, but that doesn't tell us what the dollar will do relative to other currencies.

Either way China will need act if the Yuan rises too far relative to the dollar because they can't afford to see the dollar fall. They need their exports to remain affordable to the US consumer to continue their economic growth (and unemployment goals).

The world economy of today really is without historical precedent. All the leading currencies are fiat based, and hold each other in reserve. There is no "safe harbor" that the world can retreat to. From an intellectual point, it will be very interesting to see how and when the situation releases the internal tension that has built up. From a personal point, I hope the shit doesn't land here.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 06:04 PM
Response to Reply #2
13. well, I think we will be paying China back in seriously inflated money.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SlipperySlope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 03:42 PM
Response to Original message
3. Inevitable
The reverse side of all the Chinese goods flowing into this country are all the US Dollars flowing out. It is only natural for those Dollars to be sent home by the Chinese in search of something of value. In this case, the "something" are U.S. companies.

Reminds me of Japan in the 1980's.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 04:30 PM
Response to Original message
6. That means maytag will be offered at china mart anyday now
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 04:32 PM
Response to Original message
7. Maytag Stock Up on Second Possible Offer (Chinese)
DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) - Shares of Maytag Corp. rose Tuesday after the appliance maker said it will review a $1.28 billion buyout offer from two private equity firms and a rival Chinese manufacturer, a month after Maytag agreed to be acquired by an investor group that wants to take the company private.

<http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/ticker/article.asp?Symbol=US:MYG&Feed=AP&Date=20050621&ID=4905450>

What does a huge and endless trade deficit do? After a while it gives foreign companies (in this case a Chinese company) the cash they need to possibly buy all your companies out. Then they can treat your workers just the way they treat their own.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 04:32 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. We are so screwed. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 04:57 PM
Response to Reply #7
9. indeed...
It is the turn of the 19th century America all over again.
Welcome to "The Jungle".

:(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LiberallyInclined Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 05:07 PM
Response to Reply #7
10. However-
when things get really ugly, we can turn around and nationalize all those bought up industries...unless the factories have been packed up and shipped out of the country.

we ARE screwed...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 05:14 PM
Response to Original message
11. Jackie Chan to replace Hardy Rawls on TV.
Jessie White will be spin-cycling in his grave.....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 06:31 PM
Response to Original message
17. BTW the Chinese are also bidding for Unocal
So are we now mercenaries for the Chinese?

China National Offshore Oil Corp. (CNOOC) has agreed to launch the biggest ever takeover offer by a Chinese group with a 19 billion dollar bid for US oil major Unocal, according to a report.

The decision to trump a rival bid for Unocal by ChevronTexaco was reached by CNOOC directors in a tense six-hour board meeting held in Beijing on Wednesday, The Financial Times said in its online edition.

It quoted people close to the situation as saying CNOOC had decided to bid about 67 dollars a share for Unocal and would offer to take on 1.6 billion dollars of the US energy group's debt.

At that level, the offer would value Unocal at 19.8 billion dollars, the newspaper said.


http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20050622/ts_afp/uschinaoilcompany_050622215104

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Niccolo_Macchiavelli Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 06:59 PM
Response to Original message
18. konfuzius says
gotta buy as long the dollar is worth something.

Seems those commies are teaching the capitalists a lesson.

Proles have no say in big biz and big politics, just work, procreate and stfu
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 07:15 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC