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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 01:48 PM
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Aruba Police Arrest Father of Dutch Teen (in Holloway disappearence)
Edited on Thu Jun-23-05 02:06 PM by TheWraith
Updated with link.

ORANJESTAD, Aruba - Aruban police on Thursday arrested the father of a Dutch teen already in custody in connection with the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, the teen's mother said.

"My husband was just picked up by police," Anita van der Sloot, referring to Paul van der Sloot, said in a telephone call to The Associated Press. "I don't know what to think."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050623/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/aruba_missing_teen

Original message follows:

CNN Breaking: Paul Van Der Sloot arrested in Holloway disappearence

Paul Van Der Sloot, an Aruban judge and father of one of the three boys they've been holding in connection with the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, has been arrested, according to CNN. No details on why, but apparently he is considered a suspect.

Yeah, yeah, I'm as sick of the Holloway case as anybody is, but hopefully this means that it will go away soon. Will update with link once one is available.
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Kraklen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 01:50 PM
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1. Boy oh boy.
Sounds like some sort of Keystone Kops short.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 01:52 AM
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42. Don't confuse the legal system in Aruba with what you are familiar with
In the US we usually don't arrest someone without probable cause, and we have to charge them with a crime or release them in 24 hours (or something like that, as long as they don't label you a terrorist).

In Aruba, they can arrest and detain anyone indefinitely just for suspicion. I guess they don't have to charge them.

So as you see with the two that were detained and then released, they seem to just grab anyone with any potential connection and hold them to squeeze whatever they can out of them.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 01:51 PM
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2. It's not going away, dammit
The Jackson trial is over. This is CNN's new distraction du jour. If they didn't talk about this, they'd have to talk about torture in Bush's gulags and the Downing Street documents.

And we can't have that, can we?
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Kilroy003 Donating Member (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 02:59 PM
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21. You have to be very careful when you use that word, "gulag".
I know what you mean and see no offense. However, Russians and the countrymen of the former USSR find it highly insulting to describe a prison holding 500 people as a "gulag".

Hundreds of thousands of men, women and children were sent to do slave labor and die in actual gulags. Most of these people were guilty of nothing.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 03:12 PM
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28. Granted, Bush has a long ways to go to match Stalin
But dammit, he is trying. At least he has the "no due process" part of it down cold. Once you have that, the slave labor, death, and torture can follow quite naturally.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:26 PM
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37. No due process is already there; so is torture
Edited on Thu Jun-23-05 07:27 PM by Jack Rabbit
After trial by a kangaroo court, some one may be sentenced to death and executed. No doubt the Bushies will give us his name and let us in on what the charges were; indeed, they will tell us he was an evil man.

And we'll have to believe them because no one can speak in his defense. Or do we believe them? After all, these are the same people who made up reasons to go into Iraq.

They are gulags. I make no apologies for that.

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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 11:30 PM
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40. I quite agree
Gulag seems perfectly descriptive to me, and I did read the Gulag Archipelago many years back. Things can certainly be in the same category without being of the same scale - i.e. both Guantanamo and the Soviet prison system can fairly be given the descriptor gulag, even though the numbers of people affected are not the same.

In some ways Guantanamo is worse - 250 years of relatively fair and honest American justice is being thrown away, whereas the Soviets didn't have much of a legacy of rule of law to inherit from the czars to squander.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 03:15 PM
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31. LOL. I am Russian and I don't find it one bit insulting.
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pie Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 01:51 PM
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3. Did he sell her into prostitution? What does he know?
Who dunit?
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 01:52 PM
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4. covering up for his kid maybe?
who knows? i dont watch tv news anymore.
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 01:53 PM
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5. Takes some serious evidence
to arrest a judge.

Gyre
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pie Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 01:54 PM
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6. Good point!
I hate to admit it but this is getting interesting.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:34 PM
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38. But this judge is in a different country
Can you really say what level of evidence was necessary to support the arrest? I am not being argumentative. I am not an attorney. I just wonder how similar the legal system in Aruba is to ours.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 01:57 PM
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7. AP link:Aruba Police Arrest Father of Dutch Teen
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 02:00 PM
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8. I'm with George Carlin - Like Mickey Mouses B-Day ...
I just don't give a shit!

THIS IS NOT A NATIONAL NEWS STORY!

This is a distraction.

If you choose to feed into this sick sensationalism, is it any wonder our nation is being sold to multi-national corporations while the sheeple grow ignorant about current events and the TRUE state of OUR NATION.

Screw this story! Like MJ, it's a game in our family to be the first one to dive for the remote to turn the channel.

Try it? It's refreshingly liberating, i.e., to know NOTHING about non-national sensationalist stories.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 02:13 PM
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10. Amen EP!!!
:thumbsup:
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 02:19 PM
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12. Thanks and I don't mean to come across as arrogant ...
It's like a B rated movie ... hard to turn away from. I know, Oh, yep I know.

Please just be aware that this is a distraction. I understand and have to admit that I used to enjoy the hell out of Judge Judy. :blush:

Best, EP
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 02:57 PM
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20. not arrogant at all
:)
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pie Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 02:32 PM
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13. Aha! This is why the father was not allowed to visit the son!
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paula777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 02:11 PM
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9. Bizarre. What did they do with/to her? Frightening
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pie Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 02:32 PM
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14. I say: guilty, guilty, guilty! What you say?
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 02:34 PM
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16. Fry 'em now!
You can always apologize in 50 years or so.
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pie Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 02:42 PM
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19. I say: first we tattoo him, then we hang him, THEN we fry him!
What in the world were these idiots thinking when they undertook
this monstrosity?
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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 03:13 PM
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29. Give him 2 enema's
Sorry i just watched Dracula Dead and Loving it the other night.

Harvey Corman's answer to every thing was "Give him an enema".
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pie Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 04:30 PM
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35. YES! I think that will do just fine for starters
I think his son did a bad bad thing.

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LiberteToujours Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 02:16 PM
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11. Who cares!
Didn't the president of CNN _just_ go up on his big soapbox and say we weren't going to be seeing as much of this tabloid trash anymore?
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 02:33 PM
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15. Are you kidding?
Was your post a joke... or just dripping sarcasm? Please clarify.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 03:37 PM
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32. Yeah, and look how long that lasted.
It's the murder du jour. Zzzzz. If she weren't white and blonde we wouldn't have heard a fucking thing about this.
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nickdw Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 02:37 PM
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17. it's political: suspect is judge, victim's father some narcotics bigwig
I heard the latter part on CNN tv.
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 02:39 PM
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18. U sew write! :P
Please also be aware of the following: Your check's in the mail. :eyes:
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nickdw Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 03:40 PM
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33. i don't get paid to post to DU
but I'd like to, not to mention posting commentary and news to other forums. Care to help start an online collaborative media site?
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 04:39 PM
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36. Sure, but I'm only shine for color commentaries ...
I have the capability to be harsh and outright brusque at times. :smoke: But that's no surprise - my comedy heroes are George Carlin, Denis Leary and Lewis Black. :hi:
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UCLA Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 03:09 PM
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22. Judge arrested in Aruba case
ORANJESTAD, Aruba (CNN) -- An Aruban judge, the father of a 17-year-old suspect in the disappearance of an Alabama teenager, also has been arrested in the case, a prosecution spokesperson said Thursday.

Paul Van Der Sloot is being viewed as a suspect in the case of Natalee Holloway, a missing 18-year-old from suburban Birmingham, Alabama, Mariaine Croes said. He was arrested about 2 p.m. Thursday.

"He's a suspect," Croes said. "There's a reasonable suspicion that he knows something."

Police also questioned Paul Van Der Sloot over the weekend in connection with the case. A law enforcement source close to the investigation said at the time that the judge was interviewed as a witness.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/23/aruba.holloway/index.html

This case just keeps going and going...
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 03:09 PM
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23. Its like an episode of CSI or Law & Order is unfolding before us
which network will rip the story from the headlines first?
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lateo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 03:09 PM
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24. Wow...
Well, I hope they catch the real perps.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 03:09 PM
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25. this thing is a media whore's wet dream n/t
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 03:09 PM
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26. It's better than the runaway bimbo
Nice beaches and gambling instead of waiting for news in Hotlanta.

Also should be much longer, since the poor woman's body has probably long since been recycled by the ocean.
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Kraklen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 03:09 PM
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27. That's the fishy part.
So many arrests and releases. I wonder if the media's bribing the Aruba police into making it a good story.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 03:14 PM
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30. It may have nothing to do with the disappearance per se
Edited on Thu Jun-23-05 03:18 PM by rocknation
but with the father giving his son legal advice, which he was forbidden to do. Or maybe it's a tactic to scare the son. Most of these arrests seem to be for show.

:headbang:
rocknation
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Sgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 03:42 PM
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34. I wish
The Netherland's would get involved and end this Keystone Cop display. At this point, no one will know what to think. Aruba, much like Puerto Rico, is a territory. Its time for some realy answers.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:38 PM
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39. Aren't the Dutch involved already?
I thought I saw the Royal Dutch Marines beating the bushes searching last week or so.
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Sgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 01:41 AM
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41. Its certainly possible
but the Dutch provide all external security for the island, so it could have been they were already stationed and not doing much. It tends to be a desireable posting for the Dutch Navy -- lots of shoreleave and little real responsibility (maybe some Venezulan Pirates, drug runners, and that's about it). Compare that to Kosovo or a peacekeeping deployment to Africa.
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