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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 02:07 PM
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Offhand Daley comment spurred Durbin turnaround
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 02:12 PM
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1. Well, Dean didn't pile on..
When ifil asked him about Durbin on the PBS interview. Au contraire..Dean had really nice things to say about Senator Durbin..

"Dean cuts through the BS and shows why he is a hero to grass-roots progressives."


http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/06/22.html#a3582
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sshan2525 Donating Member (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 02:15 PM
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2. It's not Durbin's Fault Daley's kid is the Service
He should have thanked Durbin for any words uttered than might eventually lead to the end of this fiasco.
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GainesT1958 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 02:25 PM
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3. Dickie Daley needs to worry about the fate of Chicago under Dub & Co....
And less about how offensive Durbin's comments might have been to Repubs!

Guess he's really worried about his owm A$$ next election.:eyes:

B-)
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 02:37 PM
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4. Daley is nothing more than a corrupt politician who does NOT
represent the Democratic party or its constituents. He doesn't know how to govern. He knows how to run a mafia operation his way. Scandals everywhere in Chicago politics these days - he should be more concerned with that than what Durbin has to say. Daley sucks worse than his dad.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 02:43 PM
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5. What a fucker!
Someone needs to find a way to make him pay for his grandstanding backstab.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 02:51 PM
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6. His comments weren't misinterpreted, they were deliberately misrepresented
""I've known Dick for a long time. Like everyone else in the public eye, he and I understand that public statements can sometimes be misinterpreted."

That misses the point. Durbin should have never backed down.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 02:56 PM
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7. This is probably going to sound heartless to some, but here goes --
Edited on Thu Jun-23-05 02:57 PM by Totally Committed
Is Durbin an adult human being?

Is Daley just another adult human being? (Yes, I am aware of the political ramifications of ignoring anything Daley says, especially if you are going to run for re-election and need support in Illinois, but bear with me...)

If what Durbin said was the truth, wouldn't saying it be doing the right thing?

If all those things are true, then why shouldn't Durbin be condemned for his wimp-out apology? Where is the personal accountability that should be expected of all adult human beings. Are we not all responsible for our actions?

The trouble with politics today is that there is no personal accountability. The buck has nowhere to stop... it just bounces from person to person, willy-nilly. Where was the courtage to say, "Fuck you, Daley! I know torture is happening. Nothing I said, in any way was meant to reflect badly on the troops, so back the hell off." It would have been the courageous thing to do. It would have been the right thing to do. But, instead... we all saw what he did.

The buck is still out there making us all look weak. It's pitiful. I always admired Durbin, but no more.

Man, what a disappointment!

TC
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Iowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 04:50 PM
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8. What a crock!
All this business about whether someone should apologize or not is juvenile bullshit. It's nothing more than feigned high-drama created for the benefit of fragile, timid, hand-wringers who cringe at small slights and hurt feelings. Democrat politicians shouldn't be drawn into this. Any demand for an "apology" should be met with an even stronger barrage, and the one demanding the apology should be thrashed for even asking. Demanding apologies is for sissies. Caving to such demands is even worse.

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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 05:20 PM
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9. this is coming from a Daley aide
no doubt trying to make her boss look influential.

And Lynn Sweet is a glorified gossip columnist, a good one, but a Novak type.
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 09:42 PM
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11. a hack
mos def
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 05:24 PM
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10. OK Daley is my political foe from now on!
I hate him...


I want him out...



He has fucked with my life too many times. I will support any credible opposition with treasure and time. I will write letters starting today. I despise this man; how dare this stupid corrupt Irish Wiseguy sonnabitch undercut the Democratic Whip in a time of war.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 10:07 PM
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12. Durbin should have publicly shrugged it off, and talked to....
...Daley in private.

Daley should have understood the point Durbin was trying to make anyway.
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 12:12 AM
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13. Daley is a democrat in name only. He should resign immediately.
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zara Donating Member (470 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 01:01 AM
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14. and, uh, precisely why would Daley's comment be enough...
to spur such blubbering?
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 02:54 AM
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15. Bet Daley wouldn't have peeped
if his kid wasn't in the service.
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