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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 10:30 PM
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Zogby Poll: Bush Job Approval Plummets To 44%
Zogby: 6/23/05

McCain Would Trounce Hillary in '08 Match-up, 54%-35%; Bush Job Approval Plummets to 44% - Iraq Handling at 39%; Kerry, Bush Would Tie if Election Held Again; Just One-in-Four Approve of Congress' Job Performance, New Zogby Poll Reveals.

http://zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1005

Typical Zogby marathon headline.

Poor McCain. The fundies will break his heart in the Repug slime-time primaries, and he'll get to sit on the sidelines and watch Wesley Clark pummel that fool Frist.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 10:32 PM
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1. Meloves the word "plummets"
when used in that context.

Hope you're right about McCain. I don't like the man, but as a candidate he scares me.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 10:33 PM
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2. If they repeat "McCain is the candidate" who can win against
Hillary often enough, he'll be the nominee. Clark is the only one who has a chance of beating him.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 10:39 PM
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7. so if McCain runs, will we hear about him being a member of the
cheating Keating 5?

http://www.reason.com/sullum/031105.shtml

In 1991 Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) was reprimanded by the Senate Ethics Committee for his "poor judgment" in meeting with federal bank regulators who were investigating Arizona businessman Charles Keating, one of his campaign contributors. Ever since then, McCain has been trying to show he is not a hack politician kowtowing to special interests but a man of integrity and principle.

Yet the main principle served by McCain's crusade for campaign finance "reform" has been the principle of incumbent protection, the same goal that motivates hack politicians who kowtow to special interests. In the end, it's hard to see how McCain's crusade to remove the corrupting influence of money from politics is any more admirable than the corruption of which he was suspected in the Keating scandal. http://www.azcentral.com/specials/special39/articles/1003mccainbook5.html

McCain was one of five senators who met with regulators in 1987 and encouraged them to ease up on Keating's Lincoln Savings and Loan Association, which was under scrutiny for risky investment practices. The government ended up bailing out the S&L's federally insured depositors two years later at a cost to taxpayers of $3.4 billion, and Keating served several years in prison for fraud, although his conviction was later reversed because of juror misconduct.

Between 1982 and 1987, Keating had steered $1.4 million in campaign contributions and gifts to the five senators. McCain had received $112,000 of that, along with nine trips on Keating's jets to the Bahamas and elsewhere.

...more...
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Orion The Hunter Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 12:58 PM
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34. RE: 2008 race
McCain my beat Hilary, but too bad he cannot beat anyone in his own party for the nomination. The far Christian right would not have him as its nominee.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 10:34 PM
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3. Keep talking Social Security Bush don't stop hon!!! lets go lower
Bush keeps opening his mouth and Iraq war continues and watch how riled Americans get when we go into a Depression!!!

Republicans are in for a rude surprise as well as Democrats!!!

Socialism is making a comeback people!!!
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 10:35 PM
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4. is it time for terra 'lert yet? ........ eom
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 10:35 PM
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5. McCain will never win the GOP nomination
the Jesus people will never accept him as their nominee.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 10:46 PM
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10. i voted for John McCain in the Republican primary in 2000
Anyone who assault weapons zealots and gun dealers hate can't be all bad.

<http://www.americansforgunsafety.com/the_issues_bill.asp>
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 10:38 PM
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6. Just about where it was prior to 9/11 isn't it?
Gee, how will he get out of it this time...?
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 10:45 PM
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8. "Kerry, Bush Would Tie if Election Held Again"
That tells you all you need to know. Nothing has changed. Half of the people in this country are absolute morons.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 10:45 PM
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9. Pretty pathetic that Kerry only ties at this point. Especially since
Zogby had him winning the election.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 01:12 AM
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17. I really don't know what to think about Zogby at this point.
Mainly because of this factor.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 10:54 PM
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11. only at forty four percent?
How much more can possibly go wrong before the sheeple will wake up.
44 percent is to frickin high. I wish i had the drugs that the republicans have
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 10:57 PM
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12. LOL
"I wish i had the drugs that the republicans have"

'Cause it's clearly some mind-altering shit!!!

:smoke:
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 09:54 AM
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31. Just wait. If Rush beats the rap...
He'll be glad to meet you with his trunkfull in any parking lot of your choice.
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Melynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 10:57 PM
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13. McCain and Hillary are media darlings
I question if the base of either party will vote for them in the primaries.

I also question the fact that Bush's job approval rating is 44%. I think that Bush's job approval rating is a lot lower.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 12:49 AM
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14. McCain will be the one to beat, but why do the GOP and pollsters keep
harping on Hillary Clinton as the likely Dem presidential candidate? Also note that the man - John McCain - is called by his last name, as a mature professional, but the woman is called by her first name, as an immature amateur. (What is Barbie's last name?) Much as I would hate to see her as the Dem candidate, I'm really irritated at the condescending way she is named in the press. She's not a high school kid, she is a US senator.
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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:08 AM
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19. They are denigrating Hilary because they loathe
her. Also they think they stand a better chance of winning if she runs.They have demonized her so much that their base believes every word of it.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:46 AM
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20. Just the corporate media doing its best to degrade women. n/t
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 08:34 AM
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28. This is their chance to demonize women who work outside of the home
Edited on Fri Jun-24-05 08:35 AM by bushisanidiot
they are frothing at the mouth to call her a "bitch" out in public, accuse of her being a lesbian, accuse her of committing murder.. every desperate outrageous thing they can think of. it's like when i played basketball with my brothers-in-law who didn't really want me to play.. they through the ball a lot harder at me and threw elbows that they don't throw at each other to intimidate me into thinking i couldn't handle the heat.

repukes hate women.. period. even the repuke women hate women. go listen to how they talk about women at freepland. ANY news story where a woman has been raped, it's her fault. ANY news story where a woman was beaten to death by a man who didn't want to pay child-support.. it was the woman's fault and the systems fault for making the man support his children. they do honestly hate women.
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 12:49 PM
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33. Clinton vs McCain would probably score higher points
as opposed to Hillary vs McCain. I still believe many would vote for Senator Clinton because they would see a twofer presidency.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 12:51 AM
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15. Ha Ha Ha, McCain Can't Get The Nom, The RW Wacks Don't Like Him
They will only nom freaking neocon wackjobs.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 06:52 AM
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21. You are right
Freepers don't like McCain. They are calling him a RINO and CINO.

Many are saying if it is a choice of him or the "hilderbeast", they will stay home. Hmm, that might be GOOD.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 12:58 AM
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16. How low must Bush reach before we impeach him?
He's let down every segment in America except for the rich.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 02:37 AM
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18. Yea, right wing wacko owns die-bold machines...McCain, you're toast
Edited on Fri Jun-24-05 02:39 AM by Rainscents
before you even get start it.
I think it'll be between Jeb or Frist for Republicans and Hilliary or Clark for Dem's for '08.

BTW... before this is all over, Bush's rating will be in mid to lower 30's. This is my gut instant.
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 06:58 AM
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22. "Zogby Poll: Bush Job Approval Plummets To 44%"
Who the Hell are the 44% that support this clown?
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 07:33 AM
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23. The solid crop of still-blind Republicans in this country, I guess.
Those folks are still not quite ready to give up the ghost. The illusion of Bush's impossible victory continues to allow them to cling to their irrationabl prejudices, including the falsehood that they've backed a good horse for our, and their children's future.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 08:05 AM
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24. That's because of the Dems moving the goalposts
or some BS like that
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bspence Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 08:16 AM
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25. Kerry blew it, and so did the Democratic leadership
Can we somehow get a decent candidate? One who can raise issues and excite people?

Let me say it now: If Hilary gets the nomination, we're going to lose in 2008. Even if she doesn't run against McCain. She has zero charisma, and I never get a feeling of honesty from her. Not that I think she's dishonest, but I get the vibe that she's just being a carefully worded politician. I don't like that and voters don't like that.
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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 08:27 AM
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27. Rerun pre-2004-primary Howard Dean type of candidate
Democrats need a gutsy new leadership.

The question is who ?

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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 08:23 AM
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26. See, Zogby..you can't have it both ways. If you were so astonishingly
WRONG about the 2004 Presidential election polls (yeah, right)...We reserve the right to discount ANYTHING that comes from your organization. I believe it's called a 'credibility problem'.
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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 09:00 AM
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29. Unfortunately
there are still 44% of the Americans who are duped under the anti-progress republican dark forces.
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marbuc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 01:07 PM
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35. Considering 30 to 35 percent are
neocons or theocrats that will always buy into the anti-gay marriage, anti-woman/minority, anti-science, with-us-or-against rhetoric, these numbers are encouraging. We are making inroads in mainstream America, and need to continue to reach out to rational folks.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 09:07 AM
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30. Oh but I am still sure it's just turdy tree and a turd!
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 11:55 AM
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32. wwwwwwaaaaaa, I want my radical Judicial nominees and I want them now!!
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