Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

John Kerry's DSM Letter

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:03 PM
Original message
John Kerry's DSM Letter
John Kerry’s office has released a copy of his letter to the Senate Intelligence Committee requesting an investigation of pre-war Iraq intelligence failures (and the Downing Street Memo) to LightUpTheDarkness.org.

June 22, 2005
The Honorable Pat Roberts, Chairman
The Honorable John D. Rockefeller, IV, Vice Chairman
United States Senate Select Committee on Intelligence
SH-211
Washington, DC 20510

Dear Senator Roberts and Senator Rockefeller:
We write concerning your committee's vital examination of pre-war Iraq intelligence failures. In particular, we urge you to accelerate to completion the work of the so-called "Phase II" effort to assess how policy makers used the intelligence they received. Last year your committee completed the first phase of a two-phased effort to review the pre-war intelligence on Iraq. Phase I-begun in the summer of 2003 and completed in the summer of 2004-examined the performance of the American intelligence community in the collection and analysis of intelligence prior to the war, including an examination of the quantity and quality of U.S. intelligence on Iraqi weapons of mass destruction and the intelligence on ties between Saddam Hussein's regime and terrorist groups. At the conclusion of Phase I, your committee issued an unclassified report that made an important contribution to the American public's understanding of the issues involved. In February 2004-well over a year ago-the committee agreed to expand the scope of inquiry to include a second phase which would examine the use of intelligence by policy makers, the comparison of pre-war assessments and post-war findings, the activities of the Policy Counterterrorism Evaluation Group (PCTEG) and the Office of Special Plans in the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Policy, and the use of information provided by the Iraqi National Congress. The committee's efforts have taken on renewed urgency given recent revelations in the United Kingdom regarding the apparent minutes of a July 23, 2002, meeting between Prime Minister Tony Blair and his senior national security advisors. These minutes-known as the "Downing Street Memo"-raise troubling questions about the use of intelligence by American policy makers-questions that your committee is uniquely situated to address. The memo indicates that in the summer of 2002, at a time the White House was promising Congress and the American people that war would be their last resort, that they believed military action against Iraq was "inevitable." The minutes reveal that President "Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy."

The American people took the warnings that the administration sounded seriously-warnings that were echoed at the United Nations and here in Congress as we voted to give the president the authority to go to war. For the sake of our democracy and our future national security, the public must know whether such warnings were driven by facts and responsible intelligence, or by political calculation. These issues need to be addressed with urgency. This remains a dangerous world, with American forces engaged in Iraq and Afghanistan, and other challenges looming in Iran and North Korea. In this environment, the American public should have the highest confidence that policy makers are using intelligence objectively-never manipulating it to justify war, but always to protect the United States. The contents of the Downing Street Memo undermine this faith and only rigorous Congressional oversight can determine the truth. We urge the committee to complete the second phase of its investigation with the maximum speed and transparency possible, producing, as it did at the end of Phase I, a comprehensive, unclassified report from which the American people can benefit directly.

Sincerely,
John Kerry
Co-signers: Sens. Tim Johnson, Jon Corzine, Jack Reed, Frank Lautenberg, Barbara Boxer, Edward Kennedy, Thomas Harkin, Jeff Bingaman, Richard Durbin

http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/blog/default.asp?view=plink&id=1150
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:07 PM
Response to Original message
1. BUT WHERE IS HE??? WHAT IS HE DOING????
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dr Ron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:30 PM
Response to Reply #1
15. He's following Senate protocal
Kerry was the first Senator to discuss the issue in public,

Now he is using the Senate rules to attempt to get an investigation.

Using Senate procedures to push for an investigation is the most meaningful thing Kerry could do. Even if the Republicans in control refuse the request, this will give Democrats another campaign issue to argue against GOP control in the 2006 elections.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 04:24 PM
Response to Reply #1
25. This is what he is doing! He is calling for an investigation
Edited on Fri Jun-24-05 04:24 PM by saracat
which is more than anyone else is doing! Too bad only nine other senators have any guts! And what about Hagel, that gutless repuke? He KNOWS this needs to be done! As far as I am concerned, Kerry is our President, and we ought to thank him for standing up to the illegal coupe!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 04:57 PM
Response to Reply #1
33. Oh, please. Skip the dramatics. Kerry's doing exactly what he is...
...supposed to be doing. Suggesting otherwise just plays into the hands of the NeoCons, IMHO.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:10 PM
Response to Reply #33
39. I should have added the sarcasm tag
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:47 PM
Response to Reply #39
45. Well, those of us who've seen your posts before
got it, dear.

;-)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:51 PM
Response to Reply #39
50. And that would have done what, exactly?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 06:08 PM
Response to Reply #50
53. It would have indicated that I was kidding and knew Kerry was acting
back when everybody else was attacking him
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 06:19 PM
Response to Reply #53
54. I read your other posts, so I knew where you were coming from
:hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 06:23 PM
Response to Reply #39
56. HAHAHAHAHAHA.....
that's what you get for staying in the lounge........

;))))))))))))))))))))
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 01:39 AM
Response to Reply #56
78. No shit :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
silvermachine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 11:41 AM
Response to Reply #39
82. Got it the 1st time around...
...the sarcasm was evident.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
zara Donating Member (470 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:08 PM
Response to Original message
2. Milquetoast letter, but right issue...
Kerry is right to put the heat on Roberts who is covering up for Bush Co. by not pushing forward with Phase II investigation, but that letter is so weakly written. Kerry reduces "facts being fixed around the policy" to "political calculation". What mush. Did Bush Co orchestrate a symphony of heinous lies!!!!!! Kerry needs a ghostwriter.
No, not Kerry in 2008. Ho hum.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:10 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. And your Senator has done what? eom
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
impeachthescoundrel Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:12 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. Thank you
I personally love John Kerry.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
zara Donating Member (470 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:13 PM
Response to Reply #3
6. my senators are boxer and feinstein.
feinstein enabled the faux-war just like Kerry.
boxer? well, she has her moments
: )
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:04 PM
Response to Reply #6
35. Let's get more specific, shall we? What have either one of them done...
...to get the DSM investigated?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 06:21 PM
Response to Reply #35
55. Boxer has signed on
So she is doing something. People will bash Kerry over anything, so what else is new?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
candice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 07:52 PM
Response to Reply #55
61. This is from Boxer in response to a DSM email to her


In light of the Downing Street Memo, I
recently joined Senators Kerry, Lautenberg,
Durbin, Johnson, Kennedy, Harkin, Bingaman,
Corzine, and Reid in urging the Senate
Intelligence Committee to examine the use of
intelligence by policy makers. As we stated in
our letter, "the American public must have the
highest confidence that policy makers are using
intelligence judiciously never manipulating it
to justify war, but always to protect the United
States. The contents of the Downing Street Memo
undermine this faith and only rigorous
Congressional oversight can restore it."

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:14 PM
Response to Reply #3
40. Well, MY senator is BARBARA BOXER!
I get to gloat. :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:45 PM
Response to Reply #3
44. Let's see: Dole? Nothing. Burr? Nothing. What's your point?
They're rightwing nutfuckers, what else would they do?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:13 PM
Response to Reply #2
7. Senate language
This letter is from senators to other senators. Do not expect strong language. The goal is to get these hearings.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SittingBull Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 04:07 PM
Response to Reply #2
24. Forget the Grand Failure-Crap!
they infiltrate our movement.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #2
34. And who's your Senator, and what the heck are they doing? For that...
...matter, what are you personally doing besides posting your own particular brand of "mush" to the DU boards?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:54 PM
Response to Reply #2
51. No it's not a milquetoast letter. It's a letter written by an intelligent
statesman. It's got big words, with lots of syllables, which is how Senator Kerry speaks. Unlike the cretin that occupies the WH, this is a letter written by someone with a brain. I'm sure Rockefeller and Roberts, or any other thinking Senators who read it, will have very little difficulty understanding what it says.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:58 PM
Response to Reply #2
52. Fuck 2008
And the horse it rode in on.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 06:34 PM
Response to Reply #52
57. My sentiments exactly!
Does that letter mention 2008?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:13 PM
Response to Original message
5. nice letter - maybe someone other than us will read it
:eyes:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:16 PM
Response to Reply #5
9. Don't count on it.
If these senator's really wanted to make a statement they would go on Face the Nation, Meet the Press, etc. They would hold a news conference. This letter is a disappointment and my senator's name is on it as a co-signer.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:24 PM
Response to Reply #9
12. SO he/she did more than the other senators.
Edited on Fri Jun-24-05 03:25 PM by Mass
More needs to be made, but it is a good start.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:28 PM
Response to Reply #9
14. Welcome to DU Inspired!
Edited on Fri Jun-24-05 03:29 PM by UpInArms
:hi:

At least your senator is a co-signer - both of mine are GOPiggies and now I just get letters from one of them that state:

"It is obvious that you have leftist political leanings" - I am sooooo comforted! I figure I'm on some kind of "radical leftie" list that makes certain I'm one of the ones that get to go to a re-education camp :eyes:

(edited for typo)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:37 PM
Response to Reply #14
19. None of my GOPigs have even bothered to respond
I think I'd prefer no response at all then the one you got, wow what a dick!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:54 PM
Response to Reply #19
23. I have to say that when I read that letter
I was alarmed and angry.

Now, I'm just angry.

That PIG is supposed to represent every constituent - not to call them names (since he has, I certainly feel free to do the same) and tell them that they will not be represented in any way.

I pay that jack-off's salary - :argh:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dr Ron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:33 PM
Response to Reply #9
17. This is how things are accomplished
Using the Senate rules to push for an investigation is far more meaningful.

If the Senate agrees, we have an investigation.

If the GOP controlled Senate refuses, we have another campaign issue to argue for the need for Democratic control in 2006 to hold the Republicans accountable.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:34 PM
Response to Reply #17
43. I'm not a psychic
but I have a feeling this will go no further. Trust me....I wish it would. I've been waiting a few weeks for Senator Kerry's response. Is anyone else just a little disappointed? Now we are to be patient and let this somehow have meaning in the 2006 elections? It isn't getting any airplay now! No one is going to listen in 2006. Our attention span isn't that long. Sorry but this just didn't do it for me.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dr Ron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 07:08 PM
Response to Reply #43
60. Unfortunately these things take time
Hopefully they will be able to get an investigation under Senate rules and we will not have to wait until next year.

I'm afraid that instant gratification isn't a realistic option. It took a long time to get Nixon out of office, and that was with a Congress controlled by Democrats.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 04:51 PM
Response to Reply #5
32. GREAT POST!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:09 PM
Response to Reply #5
37. Kerry could go on TV and talk about and then more than the base would know
Edited on Fri Jun-24-05 05:09 PM by Dr Fate
But thats just it- this was aimed at the base to make us think they are "on it."

Once it is dropped for "safe" issues, they will encourage us to blame the media instead of them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:48 PM
Response to Reply #5
46. Here's my advice to all of you who are ranting and raving about what...
...you believe to be Kerry's "soft" letter:

Go review in detail the Watergate Scandal from the moment that the "plumbers" were arrested at the Watergate in June 1972 until the day Nixon resigned in August 1974.

Additionally, review the work of the White House "plumbers" prior to their arrest in June 1972.

I think you'll also find that it was much easier to pursue impeachment in the 1973-1974 time-frame when the Democrats controlled both Houses of Congress.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Goldeneye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:14 PM
Response to Original message
8. Everyone who has Senators without there names on the list
better start calling and e-mailing. MA is covered. Everyone else get calling.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:19 PM
Response to Reply #8
11. NJ is covered too
Corzine and Lautenberg both signed. Thanks, NJ.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:44 PM
Response to Reply #8
21. Don't think I'll bother with my Senators: Alexander and Frist....
...ain't gonna happen with them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 11:38 PM
Response to Reply #8
76. One of my Senators
Edited on Fri Jun-24-05 11:42 PM by burrowowl
Jeff Bingaman signed. I'll have to call him!
Pete Domininci is a LOST CAUSE!

GO JEFF! :bounce: :kick: :bounce:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lateo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:18 PM
Response to Original message
10. It is a start...
Let us all just hope it goes somewhere...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:27 PM
Response to Original message
13. Thank you Senator Kerry!
Maybe, just maybe working within the system will be what it takes to get the ball rolling on this. Sometimes going on camera and hot- dogging it isn't always the best way to get things done, especially when the MSM is not exactly a friendly place and since they (the MSM) don't seem to be particularly interested in this issue. Thanks again to Senator Kerry and all of the others who signed this letter!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:32 PM
Response to Original message
16. Yippee. My BIG disappointment...
There were only 9 Senators willing to sign this letter? WTF? Well, isn't that special. Geez---9 Senators have the cajones to sign on to a letter supporting a fact-finding mission for TRUTH! OMG! OMG! OMG! Must make Conyers feel like he truly has the support of his fellow dems, right?

My Senators are Boxer and Feinstein. I know why Feinstein isn't signing...her hubby is making a bundle over in Iraq because of this illegal war! FYI! IMO, she's worthless.

Why didn't Reid sign this? Anyone have an idea? Byrd?

peace.




Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:51 PM
Response to Reply #16
48. It's like co-sponsoring legislation...only the co-sponsors sign.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:34 PM
Response to Original message
18. Only 10 senators support this investigation?
...and how many democratic senators are there?

No excuse for this whatsoever. I hope you all are contacting your senate if you have not already.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:41 PM
Response to Reply #18
20. Good idea! N/T
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:49 PM
Response to Reply #18
22. I can only assume that the other Democratic Senators who didn't...
...sign this must be in line with statements made by Dick Cheney, Bush, and the feelings of the Senate majority leader Frist towards the lead-up to war. Or else, they would have signed. Right. Right?

Thanks guys. Thanks for having our backs...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 04:49 PM
Response to Reply #22
29. Who knows?
:kick:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:22 PM
Response to Reply #18
42. great point: where are the other senators and the Corporate press with
respect to continuing an investigation that ALL AGREED TO way back when!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 04:33 PM
Response to Original message
26. This explains some things
After all the Senate HAD been moving before they stole more seats for the GOP in the area whereas Conyers has to go outside the system to even get near the issue. So Kerry has to deal with a pre-existing accountability procedure going into the next phase.

It is ironically harder to rouse people on the outside with this open avenue to accountability. i forgot it even existed. It is wedge without the populist heat.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 04:51 PM
Response to Reply #26
31. Seems so doesn't it...
There's wedges everywhere these days! Time to unwedge them!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:10 PM
Response to Reply #26
38. We just have to learn
to get better at generating our own populist heat.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:50 PM
Response to Reply #26
47. Sometimes we have to live without the heat
Edited on Fri Jun-24-05 05:56 PM by LittleClarkie
Somehow I get the feeling investigative work isn't the sexiest or juiciest thing in the world. But if it gets the job done...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 08:07 PM
Response to Reply #47
64. Does Kerry realize that he is
wasting every long shot opportunity to earn his presumptive status as a future candidate? He has boldly moved into secondary issues, said great and smart things, but delayed trying to lead. Worse they simply are not thinking how to move on this mess? I can't come up with a sure fire thing but who knows how much they are trying inside the DC muffler?

People dying every day, guys. Only the GOP is violating Robert's Rule of
Order and they are keeping the blood flowing.

Ship Kerry was sunk when he failed to fight the crime machine wisely and then covered it with a lofty concession. The only thing, the ONLY thing hopeful in any of the current Dem leadership's failure is the vacuum is still waiting to be filled. Our voices are keeping it from closing completely.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 04:34 PM
Response to Original message
27. Well, he is on board at last.. too bad it's the caboose.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Pawel K Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 04:38 PM
Response to Original message
28. Bingaman, my senator signed on
I just gained a lot of respect for him.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 04:50 PM
Response to Original message
30. Perhaps the senators SHOULD be adressing ALL OF THE MEMOS...
not just one of them...

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 09:53 PM
Response to Reply #30
70. Excellent point.
NT!

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:07 PM
Response to Original message
36. More "Letters." An OK start- but why is this coming out on a Friday?
So much for maximum exposure.

But when the Base complains, the DEMs can still say- "Kerry wrote a letter-but the media refused to cover that exciting, easy to read, quotable letter."

Call me back when he & the other star DEMs decide to go on TV tell the Red-Staters all about this. This letter is bascially a tree falling in the woods with no one to hear it.

The online, donor community already knows about all this- call me back when the star DEms are ready to put down the quills & ink and go ON TV to tell EVERYONE about it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 08:34 PM
Response to Reply #36
67. I am satisfied with this effort, for now
Seems to me that they are laying the groundwork before they go on TV, which is not surprising given that this is such a bombshell. Moreover, I don't think anybody inside the beltway is going to miss this and will understand its implications.

What I see is a calculated, team effort. Be patient and keep moving forward!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:17 PM
Response to Original message
41. Thanks for sharing this. Every Dem Senator should have their signature
on this document. Harry Reid ... especially.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 06:34 PM
Response to Reply #41
58. I agree! N/T
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bilgewaterbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:51 PM
Response to Original message
49. WTF!!! Not even half the Dems signed this!!! nt.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 10:18 PM
Response to Reply #49
71. At this point, this is sufficient.
Twenty five years ago a letter such as this would be a virtual command or edict from on high. Heads would roll. There would be a lot of panic and hurrying and scurrying around in an attempt to cover whatever could be covered, hiding what could be and a lot of news releases to try to redirect attention.
Unfortunately, things are so very different, now. The advantage we have, now, is also a great disadvantage. The arrogance of the berserkers is so great they don't see the average senator, especially democratic, as anything more than a pest, barely worth swatting, a little attention in front of the cameras, to be ignored immediately after.
John Kerry is a gentleman senator from the old school and, in my opinion, although I wouldn't call him totally out of touch, he does seem to operate by rules that have been abandoned by the current crop of GOP troglodytes. His letter will lay the groundwork, being couched in formal legalese, for the coming fight, and, to me, it shows that he is aware of the gravity and and scope of the crimes committed.
This letter can go into the legal file whereas a ranting, argumentative missive could not.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dalloway Donating Member (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 07:06 PM
Response to Original message
59. Both my senators signed--GO CORZINE and LAUTENBERG
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 07:57 PM
Response to Original message
62. Thank you, Senator Kerry!
Here's my e-mail to JohnKerry.com (sent with a small donation, for the cause:D ):

>Senator Kerry,
Thank you for following up on Part 2 of the Senate Intelligence Committee’s report on the intelligence failures of September 11th and concerns raised by the Downing Street Memo. Senator Kerry, if you hadn’t done this, I don’t think anyone else would have had the political clout to take such action…and it was critical action to take to protect the security of our country. I hope, in the weeks to come, ALL other Democratic Senators and maybe even a few Republicans will sign on to your letter to the Intelligence Committee. I also watched your speech on the Senate floor in response to Karl Rove’s outrageous remarks. I wish the media would broadcast it to the world! Yours were words that have long needed to be said. As a “vacationing teacher” this summer (that means short on funds), I will continue to donate what I can to support your continued actions to hold this administration accountable for its actions.<

I think we Democrats need to focus! Why are we bashing a person who continues to defend our values?????:patriot:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
candice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 07:59 PM
Response to Original message
63. Who profits from this War?
The Repubs supposedly wouldn't allow a bill to prohibit war profiteering from reaching the floor. The spoils of war in Iraq (both now and later) are enormous. Are these the same Repubs who stated that they might allow voting paper trails in 2006, but wouldn't allow it to come to a vote for the 2004 election? Were the Florida/Ohio elections in 2004 test cases to see how altering tabulators worked (so paper trails wouldn't be needed).
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 08:19 PM
Response to Original message
65. Senator Kerry: worthless again
"...and other challenges looming in Iran..."

Nice one, Mr. Billionaire. Be sure to establish your bona fides as an imperialist in good standing for the next illegal war while mumbling some tepid criticism of the current one.

And this tiny croak after your campaign's loud endorsement of the Iraq war, which set back the peace movement by a year.

If I could take back my vote for you, I would.

Never again!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 08:56 PM
Response to Reply #65
68. That is no way to talk.
You should be smarter than the repuks. thats the way they talk nonsense. Kerry is a good man and should be president right now.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 10:29 PM
Response to Reply #65
72. Yawn
:boring:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 10:43 PM
Response to Reply #65
73. I think I remember reading your same thoughts on Kerry before.
Sorry, but they are getting old. We're here supporting Kerry for his efforts in regards to the DSM. I would think Senator Kerry would be more informed on how to proceed with a request for further investigation into the minutes than you would. If you don't like the way he is handling it go find another senator who will be able to address the minutes the way you would.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 11:37 AM
Response to Reply #65
81. Kerry said Bush rushed war without letting weapon inspectors finish. Why
are you allowing the Rovian media spin to seep into your postings?

Blame the IWR as a blank check and you let Bush off the hook for not implementing the IWR guidelines honestly...and that is impeachable.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 08:21 PM
Response to Original message
66. Kick.
:thumbsup:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 09:41 PM
Response to Original message
69. I'm a dummy on procedure...
...but now we've got members of both the Congress and the Senate formally requesting investigation on the DSM.

That's good thing, isn't it?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 12:25 PM
Response to Reply #69
79. It is. Nevermind the complainers. They don't understand procedure.
Or they do and don't want to see an investigation happen. There are GOP operatives who work these forums.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ArnoldLayne Donating Member (871 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 10:51 PM
Response to Original message
74. It's about time maybe something will finally happen as
a result of the contents of the DSM.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 10:54 PM
Response to Original message
75. This is a good letter, it deals with the issue in an intelligent manner
and it is presented in a respectful manner sure to be more willingly received and reviewed than a letter "demanding" an investigation. I am hoping Senator Rockefeller can push Senator Roberts to act on this request.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LeahD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 12:56 AM
Response to Reply #75
77. And in his remarks about Rove,
he makes the comment that "leadership isn't insult or intimidation."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=273x32495


Senator Kerry is unlike the Chimp in almost every respect. I like a leader who is intelligent and respectful!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MellowOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 12:57 PM
Response to Original message
80. People in the U.S. are getting restless
I've heard several people talk about the memo, and I live in a very red small town in the South. So I sure hope an investigation will happen.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 18th 2024, 08:18 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC