Bush Trying to Win Over Americans on Iraq (Radio Address)

[maddezmom]

~snip~
In his radio address on Saturday, Bush warned there is likely to be more tough fighting in months to come. And, as he did in his meeting at the White House Friday with Iraqi Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari, Bush urged Americans to share the two leaders' confidence in a positive outcome.

"The Iraqi people are growing in optimism and hope," Bush said. "They understand that the violence is only a part of the reality in Iraq."

Bush's message that Iraqis are overcoming their fears and working to defeat those opposed to an Iraqi democracy is likely to be echoed in a prime-time address he'll make Tuesday from Fort Bragg, N.C. The address at the home of the Army's elite 82nd Airborne Division will mark the first anniversary of the transfer of power from the U.S.-led coalition to Iraq's interim government.

The president told radio listeners his strategy for military success is to defeat members of Saddam Hussein's former regime and foreign and Iraqi terrorists and criminals responsible for the violence. At the same time, the United States is helping train Iraqi security forces so U.S. troops can eventually return home. Bush has turned aside calls in Congress and elsewhere for him to set a deadline for withdrawing U.S. troops.

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more: http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050625/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_1

transcript here:
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050625/dcsa001.html?.v=14

[LynnTheDem]

1. "The Iraqi people are growing in optimism and hope". Oops WRONG again.

Just lie, lie, lie. Yep, bush thinks Americans are THAT STUPID. Only your base, bush.

[habitual]

3. No Lifelines Left...

i don't even think his base is going to keep believing that bull that people over there are seeing the progress so we should not worry. HAHa. That line is too old and worn out... cried wolf too many times Georgie, now it's time to pay the price.

[niceypoo]

42. But, but.......

the media isn't focusing on the GOOD news coming from Iraq!! This is what I hear from my loonie coworkers and friends......how we are "building schools". I tell them that for every school haliburton builds, 3 are blown to smithereens (with or without students aka "future terrorists" in them), ensuring Haliburton future multi-billion dollar contracts ad infinitum!

[Scooter24]

2. Bush must have finally read...

...the memo about his new poll numbers. A good speech filled with Rove-approved sound bites about how great things are there, how we will stay the course, democracy on the rise, etc., coupled with a few television shots of smiling troops and families and voila! Instant jump in the polls, which I would expect to be marginal, and which could also mean somewhat decent press coverage for Bush in the weeks ahead; That is until next month when things return to the status quo and the public realizes that nothing much has changed in Iraq except for the climbing casualty count and continuing low recruitment numbers.

[IndianaGreen]

12. And Rove's new sound bite that criticism of the war demoralizes the troops

Well, here is my contribution to "demoralizing" the troops: Come home now! Don't die for OIL!

[BattyDem]

19. I think it's far more demoralizing to be ...

stuck in a horrible place where everyone hates you and you don't have the proper equipment to survive, while your "Commander in Chief" tells the country that everything is just peachy! :grr:

I'm sure it's also demoralizing to learn that "independent contractors" make more money in one day than you do in a month! :eyes:

[Bill McBlueState]

20. that's something that baffles me

Who are these troops who find democratic debate to be so demoralizing? Are they glued to Air America all day, crying themselves to sleep when not everyone supports the mess Bush has gotten them into? I figured soldiers were tougher than that.

[IndianaGreen]

22. If they watch anything, it would be Faux News

which is piped to every military installation.

The demoralize the troops argument has no merit whatsoever!

[OKNancy]

4. I walked through the den where

the TV was on MSNBC and heard a snip of this. It's a cliche' to say, but it's so "1984". It's like if he says it, it must be true.

The part I heard was about how we are building schools and hospitals...like they didn't have those before. Of course DUers know that before the invasion, they had comparatively good school and hospital system ( especially given the sanctions).

Also as a woman, it troubles me deeply what has happened to the Iraqi girls and women as a result of this wrongful war, and it was so predictable too. Saying this isn't a defense of Saddam either, it's just the reality of the situation.

No one is a winner here. The insurgents who wish to have a fundamentalist government ( anti-women) are not heroes, we are not heroes either for causing the chaos.

Quagmire doesn't even begin to describe that awful mess.

[Cha]

38. They are rebuilding the schools and hospitals

that they bombed the shite out of.

Oh, those crafty contractors.

[aintitfunny]

5. Whoopty Effin Doo for both those Iraqi people

Growing in optimism and hope

[Flammable Materials]

6. "Bloodiest. Cakewalk. EVER." n/t

[maddezmom]

7. WP: Bloodshed Shadows Iraqi's Trip and * response to the bloodshed:

~snip~
His remarks came hours after a suicide car bomber and gunmen ambushed a U.S. military convoy in Fallujah, devastating a vehicle filled with mostly female Marines, in the war's bloodiest day to date for women in uniform. At least one of the two Marines confirmed dead was a woman, as were 11 of 13 Americans injured. The death toll was likely to climb pending information about three Marines and one sailor who were unaccounted for.

This most recent bloodshed shadowed a joint news conference at the White House as Bush played host to Iraqi Prime Minister Ibrahim Jafari. The visitor endorsed Bush's view that the war remains a just and winnable cause and is going better than the public might expect based on the carnage they see on television.

The insurgents "know it bothers people to see death, and it does," Bush said after his first White House meeting with Jafari. "It bothers me, it bothers American citizens, it bothers Iraqis. They're trying to shake our will."

Bush's remarks were a preface to a major prime-time speech he plans to give Tuesday evening from Fort Bragg, N.C. His challenge is to reframe the Iraq debate, in order to maintain public tolerance for an open-ended military commitment at a time when polls suggest patience is dwindling.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/24/AR2005062400169.html?nav=rss_nation/nationalsecurity

[aquart]

11. Bush lies again.

It doesn't bother him a bit to see death. He likes it. He likes it even better if he's the cause.

Hey, George, who's REALLY The Butcher of Baghdad?

[Corgigal]

24. also might explain

why Bush hasnt attended one military funeral.

[journalist3072]

8. Who could have imagined....

That at this stage of the game, Bush would STILL have to be making the case for Iraq. It's like we are back to square one--with the Idiot Moron having to explain why we should be in Iraq.

NOTE TO BUSH: Bumbling Idiot, do you see what happens when you take your country to war, based on a lie? Do you see what happens when you have no exit strategy, and on the eve of the war, military leaders have to read a slide about post-war planning that says "To Be Provided."

[bahrbearian]

9. Hey, Chimpy looks like you had a good time at the Game with Condi.

Where was Pickels?

[rodeodance]

10. Grand Headline-"trying" te he

Bush Trying to Win Over Americans on Iraq

[gulliver]

13. "more tough fighting in the weeks and months ahead"

I notice he avoided the word "years." I guess that means we are going to be there less than a year if it is only a matter of "weeks and months."

[deadparrot]

14. Bush says he has Iraq plan, critics see quagmire

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush insisted on Saturday he had a strategy for defeating the deadly insurgency in Iraq but Democrats said the war was threatening to descend into a quagmire.

Bush said he had a two-track plan that involved training Iraqis to handle more of their own security, and helping the country develop a stable democracy.

"Our military strategy is clear: We will train Iraqi security forces so they can defend their freedom and protect their people, and then our troops will return home with the honor they have earned," Bush said in his weekly radio address.

"The political track of our strategy is to continue helping Iraqis build the institutions of a stable democracy," he said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050625/ts_nm/iraq_bush_dc

[mike_c]

15. de plan, boss, de plan....

Bush has a plan! :rofl:

[maddezmom]

16. so when will he put the damn plan in place???

* has no plan and never has had one. :puke:

[Enraged_Ape]

17. Here is Bush's complete plan

1) We're making good progress in Iraq. We've gotten rid of the rape rooms. Saddaam is out of power. There are elections and voting, which Iraq had never had before.

2) It's hard work being President. Real hard work. But I think about Iraq every day. Every SINGLE day.

3) We need to stay there as long as it takes to stop the terraists, the insurgents. They are killers. We will stop the killers.

Thank you so much. And God Bless America.

[MellowOne]

18. He Bush, kiss me

I like to kiss when I'm getting screwed.

[u2spirit]

26. You owe me a new keybpard

Soda came out of my nose when reading your post MellowOne

[MellowOne]

39. LOL

So sorry! It should read, hey Bush, not he.

[IndianaGreen]

21. If you want to believe that something is true, then it is true!

Those that believe in Bush are part of the crowd that rejects science and reason. Their religion is based on blind faith, trumping reason and common sense. In the intellectual closet in which they exist, the Earth was created 5,000 years ago, Darwin's Theory of Evolution (which has nothing to do with monkeys) remains unproven, gays are inherently evil, women must submit to men's authority, G-d wanted Bush to be President, and we are in Iraq to bring freedom, democracy, and Jesus to the heathens.

[patdem]

23. He has gotten it 100% wrong so far..no WMD, no Mission Acomplished

no Cake Walk, maybe if he had gotten ONE of them right we might have reason to believe he might be correct about it going to get better with time...But when you have been 100% wrong 100% of the time..why should we believe him now?

[seafan]

25. "They understand that the violence is only a part of the reality in Iraq."

Yes, Mr. Bush, and the other parts of the Iraqis' reality are murdered relatives, lack of potable water, scarce food, no electricity, lack of health care, poor sanitation, wrecked homes and rubble for infrastructure.


Dear God, lift America and Iraq out of this nightmare.

[Up2Late]

27. Bush says he has Iraq plan, critics see Quagmire (Reuters)

(It's just amazing that * continues to talk of how "clear" the "War Plan" is, and that it's all they need to "win")

Bush says he has Iraq plan, critics see quagmire

Sat Jun 25, 2005 10:18 AM ET

By Caren Bohan

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush insisted on Saturday he had a strategy for defeating the deadly insurgency in Iraq but Democrats said the war was threatening to descend into a quagmire. Bush said he had a two-track plan that involved training Iraqis to handle more of their own security, and helping the country develop a stable democracy.

"Our military strategy is clear: We will train Iraqi security forces so they can defend their freedom and protect their people, and then our troops will return home with the honor they have earned," Bush said in his weekly radio address. "The political track of our strategy is to continue helping Iraqis build the institutions of a stable democracy," he said. The address came a day after Bush, during a visit to the White House by Iraqi Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari, rejected calls for a timetable for pulling U.S. troops out of Iraq.

While the death toll for U.S. troops has climbed above 1,700, polls are showing waning American support for the conflict. Democrats have stepped up their criticism of Bush's Iraq policy and accused him of failing to level with the public.

Zbigniew Brzezinski, former national security adviser to President Jimmy Carter, repeated an assertion earlier in the week by Sen. Edward Kennedy, Democrat of Massachusetts, that the Iraq war was turning into a quagmire. "Our nation ... deserves an honest explanation for how we ended up in Iraq. And we deserve a realistic definition of success for a war that increasingly threatens to become a quagmire," he said in the transcript of the radio address he was to deliver later on behalf of Democrats. "Unfortunately, we are getting neither from the Bush administration," Brzezinski said.

<http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=8892025&src=rss/topNews>
(more at link above)

[KlatooBNikto]

28. Why does this remind me of Nixon's "I have a Plan" on Vietnam?

[PsN2Wind]

33. Ya beat me to it

My first thought was Nixon's "secret plan to get us out of Viet Nam". But Nixon, like Bush, didn't say it was going to take five years.

[bluestateguy]

29. Anybody know what else is on TV during the speech?

?

[KlatooBNikto]

36. DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES AND THEIR HUSBANDS AT THE WH.

[spanone]

30. He has a Social Security Plan also, but he won't reveal it.

In other words, he's full of horseshit.

[Vickers]

31. "I have a plan!" is updated version of "I have a list of Communists!"

He's lying through his cowardly teeth.

[tedoll78]

32. giggity giggity!

iT'S a Quagmire!!

[Journeyman]

34. Not everyone who sees a Quagmire is a critic. A lot are just realists. n/t

[marbuc]

35. "Our military strategy is clear: We will train Iraqi security forces"

When? Hasn't he been working on this for the duration? Shouldn't we be about ready to start replacing US soldiers with Iraqi forces in great numbers?

[JABBS]

37. Bush Administration $300M Propaganda Campaign

For more information on our propaganda efforts in the Middle East, I would recommend you all read "Pentagon Hopes To Spread Propaganda Overseas With Creative Media Campaign, Novelty Items and ... Comic Books"

The article can be found at http://jabbs.blogspot.com/2005/06/pentagon-hopes-to-spread-propaganda.html

[maddezmom]

40. Bush hones Iraq message as war support wanes

By Caren Bohan
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush will try to persuade sceptical Americans this week that the war in Iraq is winnable while shoring up his own weak approval ratings. Neither task will be easy.

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The speech comes on the anniversary of the handover of sovereignty and the president finds himself on the defensive about Iraq amid lawmaker complaints and polls showing American discontent.

Analysts say that makes for a challenge for Bush as he tries to fine-tune his message.

"The bad news from Iraq still trumps his message," said Carroll Doherty, editor at the Pew Research Center. "It's going to take stability rather than his statements or speeches to turn this around."

more: http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=768188§ion=news&src=rss/uk/topNews

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

41. Uh, yeah...

"The bad news from Iraq still trumps his message," said Carroll Doherty, editor at the Pew Research Center. "It's going to take stability rather than his statements or speeches to turn this around."

The only person in this country, save a few morans and hard core fundies, who doesn't know this is the one who'll be making the speech and statements. MKJ