Bush: Bloodshed in Iraq Is 'Worth It'

[jsamuel]

Bush: Bloodshed in Iraq Is 'Worth It'

By JENNIFER LOVEN, Associated Press Writer
5 minutes ago



FORT BRAGG, N.C. - President Bush on Tuesday appealed for the nation's patience for "difficult and dangerous" work ahead in Iraq, hoping a backdrop of U.S. troops and a reminder of Iraq's revived sovereignty would help him reclaim control of an issue that has eroded his popularity.

In an evening address at an Army base that has 9,300 troops in Iraq, Bush was acknowledging the toll of the 27-month-old war. At the same time, he aimed to persuade skeptical Americans that his strategy for victory needed only time — not any changes — to be successful.

"Like most Americans, I see the images of violence and bloodshed. Every picture is horrifying and the suffering is real," Bush said, according to excerpts released ahead of time by the White House. "It is worth it."

It was a tricky balancing act, believed necessary by White House advisers who have seen persistent insurgent attacks eat into Americans' support for the war — and for the president — and increase discomfort among even Republicans on Capitol Hill.

more:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050628/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush/nc:693


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Just copied what maddezmom did :).

Edited to add comment:
Notice that this was released at 4pm BEFORE Bush's speach by the AP.

[whistle]

1. Yep 1,750 dead American troops, 11,000 seriously wounded

....over 100,000 Iraqi men, women and children killed and at least 23,400 insurgents still active in Iraq. It's all been worth it, eh? Oh, and the war cost so far $370 billion and the war is to continue for at least another 12 years at $150 billion per year.

Do we know how many barrels of oil BushCo has looted from Iraq?

[maddezmom]

6. War injured toll soars, hits veterans health costs(VA needs $2.6 billion)

The Veterans Administration assumed it would have to take care of 23,553 patients who are veterans from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan but that number had been revised upward to 103,000, Nicholson told a House of Representatives panel.

Nicholson told a House Appropriations subcommittee that his agency's estimate of Iraq and Afghanistan veterans in need of health care services was now four times greater than thought.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1589370

[natrat]

42. the death figures are cooked b/c some die enroute to europe

so maybe 6000 dead or whatever. Do they cook the wounded numbers also?

[katty]

30. Worth It?! o, you are stupid george-you will regret that statement

[jsamuel]

2. How many barrels of Oil are "Worth it", How many dollars to Hallib? nt

[maddezmom]

3. AP releases article about * speech before it's given....OOPS

I think the AP author could give a crap about what he says or knows like I do, there will be no news given during the speech.

[u2spirit]

38. Is it possible

that this early release of the speech was a test baloon to see how the blogs would grade it and then adjust it before the speech begins?

[maddezmom]

75. could be, but * isn't too good with the ad lib or last minute changes

guess we'll see soon enough. :D

[Az_lefty]

4. bush, you pathetic little coward...

if you think it's worth it, send YOUR kids over there!!!
:mad:

[LiberalFighter]

5. Would he say the same if it was his blood or the blood of his relatives?

[saigon68]

95. He is a Coward and an AWOL DRAFT DODGER

He is SCUM, so is his sidekick---WAR CRIMINAL CHENEY

[Say_What]

7. Then let him send the twins and his other nephews and nieces

the miserable POS coward.

[liberal N proud]

8. If it is worth it, why doesn't that asshole send his brats to fight?

It is only worth it when someone else's loved ones are doing your dirty work.
:puke:

[slay]

9. Bush: "I'm a Neo-con puppet and really have no clue what is going on"

Guess hearing the truth like this in his so called speech or address or whatever is out of the question huh?

[jmcon007]

10. It's worth it, George? I suppose you mean politically.

You're a coward, President Bush. You're a coward now, you've been a coward in the past and nothing you can say tonight.....nothing..... will change the fact that you will be a coward in the future.
The reason I know this for sure is that your lack of caring for those fighting your war, in many cases unprotected, has been demonstrated time and again by not providing the number of troops necessary to "win" the war, the body armor and vehicle armor necessary to keep those that are fighting safe and your despicable $1 billion dollar cut in Veteran's Administration funding to add to the misery of those returning from war damaged physically and mentally.
Yes, you are a despicable coward of the worst sort.

[UpInArms]

11. oh my (warning graphic alert)

[AllyCat]

47. This is worth it, you lying a**hole?

What if they were your kids Emperor George?

[jsamuel]

12. I think he is trying to "RE-FRAME" the issue away from LYING and to WORTH

Don't let him distract us from the DSM and the pre-war illegal bombings.

[DesEtoiles]

25. he's trying to make it look like Dems say soliders died in vain

[jsamuel]

27. exactly! He is trying to demonize us like the flag burning ploy

[bunny planet]

50. yup, I'm afraid that's what he will be implying. He's too freaking stupid

to carry it off though KKKarl. I'm afraid 'worth it' at this stage of the game, will not go over well with the 'focus' group, which is the ever growing 'reality based' community otherwise known as the American people. Out of the mouths of imbeciles, lies, lies, lies.

NOT F*cking worth it you disgraceful POS.

[Mokito]

13. Halliburton fully agrees

"It's worth it!" :banghead:

[DoYouEverWonder]

14. Tell that to the children

in these pictures on this thread in GD.

Then go tell George Bu$h to go fuck himself.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3968832

[saigon68]

15. "BRING EM ON" shouted the AWOL CHIMPANZEE

[BRLIB]

16. Worth it for Halliburton and Cheney, no doubt!

Just like the tax cuts were worth it, and SS piratization is worth it.

And labor unionization and minimum wage is not worth it.


Twelve more years would suit Halliburton just fine, and would be "$worth$" it.

$80, $100 per barrel would suit Exxon-Mobil just fine, and would be "$worth$" it.

[ismnotwasm]

17. I knew it

I knew he was going to say something so abysmally stupid that it would beg description.

[whistle]

18. Bush socialism for the wealthy and big oil and weapons....

...manufacturing companies. Trickle down/supply-side economic theory primed by $1.8 trillion in tax cuts, $1.9 trillion in military spending, $1.3 trillion in social security surplus funds looted and $2.5 trillion in new U.S. federal debt! Biggest wealth redistribution effort in the history of all mankind.

[not fooled]

94. Wow...you have lazered in on the goal...

...of this POS and his admin.

"Biggest wealth redistribution effort in the history of all mankind"

Tha's it, in a nutshell.:mad: :thumbsdown: :grr:

[maddezmom]

19. another snip from AFP...* will tie in 9/11 with Iraq

Amid all this violence, I know Americans ask the question: Is the sacrifice worth it? It is worth it, and it is vital to the future security of our country. And tonight I will explain the reasons why," he said.

"We have more work to do, and there will be tough moments that test America's resolve. We are fighting against men with blind hatred -- and armed with lethal weapons -- who are capable of any atrocity," he said.

"They are trying to shake our will in Iraq -- just as they tried to shake our will on September 11, 2001. They will fail. The terrorists do not understand America. The American people do not falter under threat -- and we will not allow our future to be determined by car bombers and assassins," he said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050628/wl_afp/usiraqbushtough_050628205235

[Sadie5]

22. Is it worth it?

It is worth it to Bush because serial killers love the bloodshed.

[Amonester]

23. Imagine that, "on the other side" (translated resistance speech)...

...< Imaginable resistance "speech" (translated in English) >...

"They are trying to shake our will in Iraq -- just as they tried to shake our will on March 19, 2003. They will fail. The invaders do not understand Iraq. The Iraqui people do not falter under threat -- and we will not allow our future to be determined by airplane bombers and assassins," he said.



When will the misleaders learn?

All wars of aggression are illegal.

:spank:

[Endangered Specie]

20. so long as it isnt your own, eh W?

[antonialee839]

21. Worth it? What a punk!

What an absolute lying disgrace.

[Patty Diana]

24. AND LETS NOT FORGET THIS LITTLE GIRL_BUSH KILLED

HER PARENTS

[Uncle Joe]

26. He means to qualify this

as long as it is not Jenna or Barbara, shedding the blood, it is worth it.

[daleo]

28. I thought the speech wasn't until 8:00 eastern, 5:00 Pacific

That's what CNN said this morning. On my clock that's still 90 minutes from now.

Oh I see now, they are writing it as if it already occurred, based on the transcripts provided to them. A bit Orwellian, that.

[Roland99]

29. Fuck that fucking fuck!

[RaRa]

31. I cannot think of an expletive hideous enough for this motherfucker

My first thoughts as I read that was how dumbfounded a parent of a fallen soldier must feel.

[alfredo]

32. He's going to try to link Iraq and 9-11 again, according to ABC

news. What a fuckup.

[muriel_volestrangler]

52. In a big way

here's some quotes from CNN:

"The terrorists can kill the innocent, but they cannot stop the advance of freedom," Bush will say. "The only way our enemies can succeed is if we forget the lessons of September 11 ... if we abandon the Iraqi people to men like (Abu Musab al-) Zarqawi ... and if we yield the future of the Middle East to men like (Osama) bin Laden."

"We are fighting against men with blind hatred, and armed with lethal weapons, who are capable of any atrocity," Bush will say. "They wear no uniform. They respect no laws of warfare or morality. They are trying to shake our will in Iraq, just as they tried to shake our will on September 11, 2001. They will fail."

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/06/28/bush.speech/index.html

'They'? 'They' all died in the planes. The planners aremeant to have been captured. The people that Bush has sent as cannon fodder to Iraq face a whole new set of people, most of them motivated by Bush's illegal invasion.

[alfredo]

59. So true. bush is trying to confuse the issue again. Iraq is not

to avenge 9-11. It was planned and desired way before 9-11.

[Renew Deal]

33. He hasn't given the speech yet.

:wtf:

[killbotfactory]

34. Yeah, his friends are making a killing with this war!

How could it not be worth it?

Pun intended.

[Andromeda]

35. When are Barbara and Jenna...

going to enlist and get their tushies shot off, lose an eye, a leg or arm, or end up with permanent brain damage?

No time soon, I bet.

If * was sincerely concerned with our military, innocent Iraqis or anybody else that ends up in that hellhole he would make a good faith gesture and enlist his daughters.

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

36. That's IT, dammit. I want his daughters in uniforms. NOW.

That sonofabitch needs a major reality check.

[thaseint]

37. Is Rove slipping???

I know *'s speeches are typically very 'organized' in terms of using keywords and manipulating language; but anyone else feel that "It was worth it." was some sort of sign that Rove is running out of steam?

Seems like after hearing that now when people look at the graphic images, the torture pictures/videos or hear about the deaths that are occurring daily that they'll be asking "Was it worth it?"

Up until now, the "It was worth it." saying was kind an unspoken understood for those on the right; but now that it has been verbalized it might start becoming less and less justifiable. Just seems like it will prompt more and more people to start questioning the war and *'s motives. :shrug:

[jsamuel]

40. I think he ran out of the apples in his basket named "free ticket - 9/11"

[teryang]

41. Madeleine Albright committed a similar gaff re Iraq embargo

When asked about the loss of life alleged to have been a consequence of the Iraq embargo, she stated, "we think its worth it" or words to that effect. Those words painted her and the embargo in a poor light.

This gaff from Bush is more of the same. The life of your child, "it's worth it." Worth what? Some bullshit propagandists jingo. Iraq will never be the bullshit image they are projecting. How can a fantasy with no connection to reality be worth it?

If its the only thing holding together the political alliance that put itself in power through a coup d'etat, it's worth it to them. The purpose was to change the nation's priorities by changing the destination of the national revenues. From public purpose to private accounts. Don't they love it when a plan comes together? The national money river ends in their pockets. Defense contractors, bankers, drug companies, big corporate, and on and on.

[despairing optimist]

39. W is having a Madeleine Albright moment

For her, half a million dead Iraqi children as a result of the sanctions imposed on Iraq was worth it. Look where that led, and that didn't involve American lives. I believe Albright regretted that comment, but our leader never recalls mistakes and thus regrets nothing.

On second thought, maybe he's having an MA moment in reverse.

[donkeyotay]

43. We're making a killing

At least $4 Billion to Halliburton just for the oil. Hundreds of billions for defense and homeland security. Delay and the boys have K street lit up like a casino - it's one big republican you do mine and I'll do yours.

They've absolutely destroyed this country.

Crime is paying big time in Washington, and WE'RE THE LUCKY ONES! We just have to see them destroy our hopes for better. We're not suffering real death, real loss, real hunger, real anguish. God, I wish our FAKE PRESIDENT would say something real like I'm a miserable failure; please impeach me.

:grr:

[bribri16]

44. Worth it to whom?

This administration is un-fucking-believable!

[superconnected]

45. Heil Bush!

[superconnected]

49. hey they caught him twice doing the heil

?


?


http://news.yahoo.com/fc/us/bush_administration

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

46. Old Blood 'n Guts Bush...

Our Blood. His Guts.

[bunny planet]

48. I didn't think it was possible for this man to be any more reprehensible..

don't know why I thought that. He continually sinks to new lows. 'WORTH IT.' Words are inadequate to express the white hot heat of my hatred for this man. Impeachment NOW! How will they spin their way out of that comment? HOW?

Please, please, please let this long national nightmare that is the *blivet Administration be over soon.

:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:

[annagull]

51. Then send Jenna and Barbara--Put money where big mouth is, lying S.O.S.

If it's so "worth" it, prove it you bloodthirsty mother*****,,,,,grrrr

[Roy]

53. On CNN... Wolf Blitzer and Paula Zahn................

Asked about previews of Bush's upcoming speech tries to pretend that they didn't see much. (We all know that they are hand out highlights they want echoed to prepare the public for the upcoming propaganda).

They are really sounding very, very down. A good indication that they know that this speech is going to be so disappointing that even they will not be able to give it a positive spin. and these are a couple of the most professional enablers of this admin.

Now trying to convince people that all the death and destruction is worth it because now they have more phones and nearly as many satellite dishes in Iraq.

[annagull]

57. It's all rehashing same old talking points

I wish the media good luck putting the lipstick on the pig properly.

[shamanstar]

54. he thinks this is an ok thing to say?

he thinks saying "it is worth it" is appropriate. i cant even believe his internal censor didnt warn him on that one!!
he is some sort of weird alien robot. that is the only explanation i can think of!

[DrZeeLit]

55. Worth "it"? What is IT? Worth WHAT?

He is an idiot.

I have no idea what they died for. * has even less.
I cannot imagine the mothers. I cry for the mothers.
This is so sad.
And so unnecessary.

[cliss]

56. The problem with Bush, is that

he's not inspiring. He can open his mouth and say whatever he wants. He can swipe his fist in the air and have spit flying out of his mouth, and be as dramatic as he wants to.

The fact is that Bush has never had to struggle for anything, never had a dicey day in his life, other than issues cropping up like worms out of the ground, on his past misdeeds which never seem to leave him.

Bush is not able to inspire people. He's a phony, a hologram of a "president". No one believes him when he says he "suffers like everybody else" because we all know it's not true.

That's why his speech will fail. In fact, I expect him to piss more people off than before.

[Zech Marquis]

58. did I fall asleep or something?

NO, it's nt even 8pm yet, so :wtf: is this article saying *'s done smirking down at Fort Bragg already?!

[Amonester]

74. **'s smiking is as predictable as

**'s catapulting the propaganda, so...

Networks want to be "certain" Bush speech is "newsworthy" before broadcast:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1891351

:nopity:

[Fire Walk With Me]

60. Fine. Send. The. Twins.

[guruoo]

61. Bush: Bloodshed in Iraq is 'worth it'

<http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/special_packages/iraq/12002004.htm>

Posted on Tue, Jun. 28, 2005

Bush: Bloodshed in Iraq is 'worth it'

JENNIFER LOVEN

Associated Press

FORT BRAGG, N.C. - President Bush on Tuesday appealed for the nation's patience for "difficult and dangerous" work ahead in Iraq, hoping a backdrop of U.S. troops and a reminder of Iraq's revived sovereignty would help him reclaim control of an issue that has eroded his popularity.

In an evening address at an Army base that has 9,300 troops in Iraq, Bush was acknowledging the toll of the 27-month-old war. At the same time, he aimed to persuade skeptical Americans that his strategy for victory needed only time - not any changes - to be successful.

"Like most Americans, I see the images of violence and bloodshed. Every picture is horrifying and the suffering is real," Bush said, according to excerpts released ahead of time by the White House.
"It is worth it."

More >>> <http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/special_packages/iraq/12002004.htm>

[neuvocat]

62. They just can't shut him up.

[Pirate Smile]

63. Send Jenna and Barbara over and say it, then I'll believe you.

[Debau2005]

64. If it is worth it

Where are the Bush twins? Have not seen them being fitted for their desert uniforms yet! My finace's deployment is being extended. Time for the Bush's to put up or shut up. I want a Bush in uniform!

[wryter2000]

65. "Worth it"

About the silliest thing he can say. Poll show that the huge majority of 'Murikans don't think the war is "worth it." He might convince people we can't leave now. And they seem to swallow "freedom on the march" without questioning. But "worth it" is a huge loser for him, imho.

[mzmolly]

66. "BRING IT ON" comes to mind here. Course it's worth it, HIS family

is safe.

[driver8]

73. Not only that, his friends are becoming very, very rich!!

[TahitiNut]

67. As long as it's OTHER people's blood and HIS profits!

It's the same old shit!

Other people (working class) labor and he and his wealthy cronies ("ownership" class) collect the profits.

Other people die (war and health care) and he and his wealthy cronies collect the profits.

It's corporate COLONIALISM.

GOP = Gouging Other People, Getting Our Profits!

[doublethink]

68. He sounds more and more like Satan incarnated.

piece of shit.

[TahitiNut]

69. Amen. Corrupt and sociopathic.

[cascadiance]

85. Damien Bush!

[shamanstar]

70. sad thing is that he thinks this is an ok thing to say

he thinks saying "it is worth it" is appropriate. i cant even believe his internal censor didnt warn him on that one!!
he is some sort of weird alien robot. that is the only explanation i can think of!

[LiberalEsto]

71. Worth it? Then send Jenna and Barbara there as soldiers!

Surely it will still be worth it to B*sh, even if one or both are injured.

[Algorem]

72. Are they setting us up for an insanity defense?

[Mari333]

76. Liar! Traitor! Its not his child's blood being shed!!

fuck him, I curse him with every breath of my being.

[UCSBLiberalCat53]

77. War is hell

Compare Bush's cavalier attitude to war to Abraham Lincoln who genuinely suffered with the growing casualty lists. At City Point, when Grant and Sherman said there could be a final bloody battle to decide the Civil War, Lincoln said something to the point of "My God, is there another way?" Can you picture Bush saying anything like that?

[rodeodance]

86. having bush as Pres is HELL

[UCSBLiberalCat53]

92. Is there anything worse than hell?

word. I can't say anymore.

[rodeodance]

78. IN PRIME-TIME ADDRESS, PRESIDENT BUSH SAYS IRAQ WAR IS WORTH SACRIFICE AND

I just recieved this via email


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Breaking News Tue., June 28, 2005
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:13:45 -0700
From: Breaking News <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]
To: xxxxx


Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:

IN PRIME-TIME ADDRESS, PRESIDENT BUSH SAYS IRAQ WAR IS WORTH SACRIFICE AND VITAL TO U.S. SECURITY


http://abcnews.go.com?CMP=EMC-1396

[pinkpops]

79. Thanks, I'll turn the TV on right now!

[rodeodance]

81. I get the silliest late breaking news from abc.

[leftchick]

80. Bush Asks for Nation's Patience on Iraq

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050629/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_24;_ylt=Ai9l9OXbBKgM7xSu4CPsivVqP0AC;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl



FORT BRAGG, N.C. - President Bush on Tuesday appealed for the nation's patience for difficult and dangerous work ahead in Iraq, rejecting calls either for a timetable for withdrawal or sending more troops to battle the enemy.


"Sending more Americans would undermine our strategy of encouraging Iraqis to take the lead in this fight," Bush said. "And sending more Americans would suggest that we intend to stay forever."

He also said Iraqis must be reassured that "America will not leave before the job is done."

In an evening address from an Army base that has 9,300 troops in Iraq, Bush acknowledged the toll of the 27-month-old war. At the same time, he aimed to convince skeptical Americans that his "clear path forward" to victory needs only time — not any changes — to be successful.

"Like most Americans, I see the images of violence and bloodshed. Every picture is horrifying and the suffering is real," Bush said.

[rodeodance]

82. Jr is laying it on pretty good!!

[rodeodance]

83. what are the metrics to say the 'the fight' is won"??

[rodeodance]

84. nothing but a pep talk!!!

[maddezmom]

87. SSDD...same speech different day

[maddezmom]

89. now doing a Miltary Recruiting commercial...nice by an AWOL CiC

[rodeodance]

88. oh my gawd--he is trying to recruit more people to the military.

[rodeodance]

90. says to honor the dead troops we need to 'finish the mission"--um...

that was done long ago wasn't it Jr!!

[ecoalex]

91. More lies from the liar in cheif

Iraq is going like Afghanistan, chaos, and lies. No roads are secure , and only by heavy guard can any convoy travel . Sporatic water, electricity, no sewer, 120 Degs. Ya, progress.Many top leaders assinated. Can you say parallel reality?

[Chicago Democrat]

93. Bush should take a bath in blood every night and it wouldnt

equal the amount of blood he has shed for lies and hubris.

[Roland99]

96. So, the MSM tomorrow is going to praise him for a stirring speech?

[confludemocrat]

97. MSM: Bush gives "stirring speech", everything's now better.

Living in a dreamworld. This a nightmare that I can't wake up from.