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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:32 PM
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Bush to acknowledge doubts in Iraq strategy
http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=143&sid=5907771&cKey=1119993612000

FORT BRAGG, N.C. (Reuters) - In a nationally televised speech, President Bush will acknowledge doubts about his Iraq war strategy but argue that it is worth it a year after the much-trumpeted U.S. transfer of power to Iraqis gave way to an endless stream of death.

"We have more work to do, and there will be tough moments that test America's resolve," Bush planned to say in an 8 p.m. (0000 GMT) speech. "We are fighting against men with blind hatred, and armed with lethal weapons, who are capable of any atrocity."

No significant shift in course was expected from Bush, whose approval ratings have fallen to the lowest levels of his presidency in part because of growing fears about Iraq.

Instead, he planned to plead for patience, insisting that U.S. troops will stay in Iraq until sufficient number of Iraqi military units are trained to defend against an insurgency that on Tuesday assassinated a prominent member of the Iraqi parliament and killed two U.S. soldiers.

"Amid all this violence, I know Americans ask the question: Is the sacrifice worth it? It is worth it, and it is vital to the future security of our country," Bush planned to say.

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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:33 PM
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1. Answer to Shrub's question:
HELL NO!
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:36 PM
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2. Anyway, itsn't that question HIS to answer?
AND he has to justify it to the world.
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:37 PM
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3. Is anyone going to rebut the speech ?
Edited on Tue Jun-28-05 04:39 PM by KC21304
Preferably someone with the wounded at Walter Reed, or pictures in the background of dead Iraqi children.

Or better yet, just the names and faces of our fallen scrolling somewhere easily seen.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:38 PM
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4. Is it worth it? Hell, yea. Me and my buddies are still countin' our
loot!!
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:38 PM
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5. "More of the same! For years! But it's worth it! Because it just is!"
And no matter what you the majority of American people say or want, no matter what the experts say, no matter what the Iraqis say or want, *I* will not change my plans for more of the same for years because it's worth it because I say it is!"

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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:40 PM
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6. He'll acknowledge that some of you nervous nellies have doubts
But he'll also say that your doubts are groundless, he's staying the course (well, not him personally, but you know what I mean), and the American people should expect nothing different from his corrupt administration. They're heading for the cliff, and by the Christ, they mean to plunge right over it.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:42 PM
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9. They plunged over it when our troops crossed the Iraq border.
They have falling into a bottomless pit ever since. They are scared shitless, even Bush is scared and he's so stupid if he was any stupider we'd have to put wheels on him.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 06:49 PM
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16. That's a good point.
If everything was going well, he wouldn't need to drag his sorry ass in front of the public to plead for more patience.

Look closely at his face tonight. Ignore his comical, exaggerated theatrics with his hands and facial gestures.

Look at the eyes. See the sweat on his forehead, as his plans for glory go up in smoke. Look at the deep grooves in his forehead, and check out his brillo-pad hair that's almost turning white.

The eyes have it.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:41 PM
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7. Sure he is.
"Now ah acknowledge that there are some people. liberals. who are not with me on this. and they think things are out of control over there. well, let me tell, they are wrong and things are real super good over there. and they do not have the pashense america has to see this job throw. and it is a real hard job."
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:42 PM
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What an Asshat
"We are fighting against men with blind hatred, and armed with lethal weapons, who are capable of any atrocity."

Well at least now he's referring to them as men and not Terrarists.

Someone needs to tell him that the blind hatred for most comes from the fact that the US military has killed their families, by dropping bombs on "suspected" hideouts and safehouses. And hitting hospitals and medical clinics. Also, let's not forget the residential area that was bombed in the vain attempt to take out Saddam during the first days of the war, they missed the target but killed many civilians in the area.

And where did they get these lethal weapons, from ammo dumps that the US military failed to put under guard, mainly because they did not have enough troops, and partly because taking over and guarding the oil ministry was more important.

Atrocities, like bombing a city into rubble or firing on a medical clinic after being given it's coordinates by Iraqi doctors, or abusing and torturing detainees, in some cases to death.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 06:56 PM
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17. As far as blind hatred...
Apparently, this morally corrupt idiot thinks that "blind hatred" is fueling the resistance. Consider this from another thread...

"U.S. and Iraqi forces have banned ambulances and humanitarian aid from entering al-Qaim city, and most of the refugees are suffering from a shortage of food, water and medicine, al-Shammari said."

I would hate a man who ordered my country invaded without reason, and against the will of the rest of the world, killed and maimed by family and friends, destroyed my country's cities and infrastructure, and then denied humanitarian aid from reaching civilians, including women and children. I would note the fact that this same man claims to value "a culture of life."

It would not escape my attention that this man and his brother tried to move heaven and earth to keep a brain dead woman alive, but will apparently, without even a twinge of conscience, order my people to be slaughtered.

Yes, they hate us, but the hatred is not blind, and since the chickenhawk and his fellow chickenhawks are too cowardly to fight the war they wanted, or to let their own children fight it, they only people left to resist are our sons and daughters.

Just exactly who is committing the atrocities, you pathetic coward?
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:42 PM
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8. more about is it worth it...* will connect 9/11 to Iraq once again
Amid all this violence, I know Americans ask the question: Is the sacrifice worth it? It is worth it, and it is vital to the future security of our country. And tonight I will explain the reasons why," he said.

"We have more work to do, and there will be tough moments that test America's resolve. We are fighting against men with blind hatred -- and armed with lethal weapons -- who are capable of any atrocity," he said.

"They are trying to shake our will in Iraq -- just as they tried to shake our will on September 11, 2001. They will fail. The terrorists do not understand America. The American people do not falter under threat -- and we will not allow our future to be determined by car bombers and assassins," he said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050628/wl_afp/usiraqbushtough_050628205235
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:48 PM
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10. Lethal Weapons? Oh GREAT. Now we have to fight Mel Gibson & Danny Glover.


:evilgrin:
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 05:45 PM
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11. "WE"?
"'WE' have more work to do?" Whaddaya mean "WE" asshole? Get your boots and web gear on, AWOL boy, and we'll talk about "WE" at 120 degrees in the shade.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 05:52 PM
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12. Title should be Bush acknowledges fundamental flaws
...in illegal war of aggression.

But nothing substantial here, just ephemeral doubts from nervous nellies which will dissipate with the next missing child or serial killer story.

He's willing to fight down to the last drop of someone else's blood. They sneak the bodies in at night, so no one can see them. That giant sucking sound is the sound of American fiat currency raining down upon the contractors throughout Asia who profit from the war, pay no taxes, and store their money in overseas tax havens. Our loss is their gain.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 06:06 PM
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13. I am really, really struck by that opening sentence:
"...endless stream of death."
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 06:33 PM
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14. Nattering nabobs of negativism.
Time to take that one down from the back shelf and give it a good dusting.
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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 06:35 PM
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15. I've only been waiting since Feb 2003
for this raging idiot to have doubts. Is this payback for the Native American thing? If it is, my people didn't come over until after it happened, ok?
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 07:04 PM
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18. A thousand curses on him
a thousand curses on him and on the lying traitors who continue this bloodshed.
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