Iraqi Forms Political Front for Insurgents (wants US troop pullout)

[leftchick]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050629/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_050629192455;_ylt=AgJAURgFRLigjzUsralwxHdX6GMA;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

BAGHDAD, Iraq - A Sunni Arab politician who brokered secret talks between American officials and insurgents said Wednesday he has formed a group to give political voice to Iraqi fighters, and demanded a timetable for U.S. troop withdrawal.


The announcement marked the most serious effort to date to draw disenfranchised Sunnis into the political process. Former Cabinet member Ayham al-Samarie, a dual Iraq-U.S. citizen, is thought to have strong tribal links throughout the Sunni triangle, where the Sunni branch of the insurgency is concentrated.

Al-Samarie's announcement follows confirmation from American officials including Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld that the U.S. has negotiated with insurgents.

Sunnis are thought to make up the backbone of an insurgency that has killed about 1,370 people — mostly civilians and Iraqi forces — since Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari announced his Shiite-led government April 28.



Ayham al-Samarie speaks at a press conference, in Baghdad, Iraq Wednesday June 29, 2005. Al-Samarie, a dual Iraq-U.S. citizen and former electricity minister of Iraq, announced the creation of the National Council for Unity and Construction of Iraq, a political front to represent the demands of an umbrella group of insurgents demanding a timetable for U.S. troop withdrawal and an end to all military offensives in Iraqi cities. (AP Photo/Hadi Mizban)

I hope he has an excellent security force.

[saigon68]

1. THE CIA WILL ARRANGE THIS GUYS DISAPPEARANCE

HE WILL BE "WORM FOOD" SOON

[Disturbed]

2. The Bush Regime and majority of Dems..

insist upon the Occupation being indefinite. When Rumsfailed said the Insugency may last up to 12 years he was being realistic for a change.

The Bush Fascist Regime. has been successful in brainwashing most Amerikans into forgetting that most Iraqis want the U.S. Occupation to end and that a large segment of the Insurgency is fighting the Occupiers. The prevailing idea now is that the Insurgency are all terrorists that are fighting against the advent of democracy in Iraq. Of course, the complicit Corp. Media has helped in catapulting that propaganda.

Most Dems in Congress will continue to support the Occupation of Iraq, no matter how the situation in Iraq developes. The wishes of most Iraqis is of no matter. The Colonization will continue for many years unless Iraqis unite and demand that the U.S. forces and the U.S. Multi-Corps vacate Iraqi property.

[NNN0LHI]

5. This guy would be dead yesterday if he wasn't working for the CIA

He is on the payroll.

Don

[saigon68]

7. What you say on reflection

makes sense. They would have probably killed him instantly if he wasn't our agent. Maybe they are going to use him to "FLUSH OUT" other insurgents.

[NNN0LHI]

8. I am sure one of his first acts as the official insurgent spokesman will...

...be to call for a unilateral cease fire and for all insurgents to turn in their weapons immediately.

Don

[mom cat]

3. Sunnis are being assassinated in droves:

The journalist who wrote this story was murdered too: http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/news/special_packages/iraq/11999387.htm
Sunni men in Baghdad targeted by attackers in police uniforms

By Tom Lasseter and Yasser Salihee

Knight Ridder Newspapers



BAGHDAD, Iraq - Days after Iraq's new Shiite-led government was announced on April 28, the bodies of Sunni Muslim men began turning up at the capital's central morgue after the men had been detained by people wearing Iraqi police uniforms.


Faik Baqr, the director and chief forensic investigator at the central Baghdad morgue, said the corpses first caught his attention because the men appeared to have been killed in methodical fashion. Their hands had been tied or handcuffed behind their backs, their eyes were blindfolded and they appeared to have been tortured. In most cases, the dead men looked as if they'd been whipped with a cord, subjected to electric shocks or beaten with a blunt object and shot to death, often with single bullets to their heads.


Marks on the bodies were similar to the injuries found on prisoners who were rescued from secret Interior Ministry jails by representatives of the Iraqi ministry for human rights, according to family accounts and medical records.


Iraqi and American officials said the murders aren't being investigated systematically, but in dozens of interviews with families and Iraqi officials, and a review of medical records, a Knight Ridder reporter and two special correspondents found more than 30 examples of this type of killing in less than a week. They include 12 cases with specific dates, times, names and witnesses who said they might come forward if asked by law enforcement.

much, much more..death squads in Iraq...well funded...CIA?, Black OPPS?

[snickersnee]

4. DO NOT get on the plane

Bermuda ain't got nothin on the "sunni triangle". Then again, he's a dual US citizen, so I'm sure his security is a given.

[Disturbed]

6. Al Sadr should not be forgotten in this.

He is also trying to forge an alliance with certain Sunni leaders. If the Sunnis and Shi'ites ever decide to set aside their differences, even temporarily, and unite to kick out the Occupiers, the Bush Regime will be forced out.

[Roland99]

9. Former "Electricity Minister"???

:wtf:


This guy was in the news a few weeks ago, too. Something smells VERY fishy about this!

[leftchick]

10. yeah

CIA is certainly a possibility. I am pretty fucking confused at this point as to who is working whom.

[maddezmom]

11. Ex-Iraqi minister forms political arm for rebels

BAGHDAD, Iraq - A Sunni Arab politician who brokered secret talks between American officials and insurgents said Wednesday he has formed a group to give political voice to Iraqi fighters, and demanded a timetable for U.S. troop withdrawal.
The announcement marked the most serious effort to date to draw disenfranchised Sunnis into the political process. Former Cabinet member Ayham al-Samarie, a dual Iraq-U.S. citizen, is thought to have strong tribal links throughout the Sunni triangle, where the Sunni branch of the insurgency is concentrated.

Al-Samarie's announcement follows confirmation from American officials including Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld that the U.S. has negotiated with insurgents.

Sunnis are thought to make up the backbone of an insurgency that has killed about 1,370 people - mostly civilians and Iraqi forces - since Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari announced his Shiite-led government April 28.

~snip~

At a news conference in a Baghdad home, al-Samarie said the new political front, the National Council for Unity and Construction of Iraq, is representing "resistance" fighters who have not carried out attacks against civilians.

http://www.desertsunonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050630/NEWS12/506300338/1208

[bribri16]

12. Tell me again why we invaded Iraq?

This ought to make the families of soldiers who lost their lives in Iraq feel really great! Wouldn't it have been much simpler less tragic and less costly to just talk with Saddam in the beginning whe Saddam was asking for talks?

[Frederik]

13. New Iraqi party to give political face to 'resistance'

"A former Iraqi Cabinet minister launched a new political movement, saying he aimed to give a voice to figures from the "legitimate Iraqi resistance." At least 12 Iraqis died, including four civilians who were killed when mortar rounds slammed into their homes in the northwestern town of Tal Afar while they were sleeping."

(...)

"Samarie said that a group of insurgents he is representing wants U.S. troops to leave Iraq in no less than one year and no more than three years. The insurgents won't put down their arms unless all of their goals are met, he added.

A British newspaper this week reported that Samarie brokered two recent meetings between U.S. officials and a group of rebels, but Samarie would only confirm that the talks took place and declined to give further details. He also said that the group he represents is made up of "resistance" fighters and not "terrorists" who target civilians."

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=10&categ_id=2&article_id=16352

"We do believe that those who carry out attacks against the innocents came from outside Iraq and belong to foreign intelligence, so we want to stop these attacks against Iraqis," he said. "The resistance is ready to work and cooperate with the government to stop such operations." "

[Igel]

14. The question is, what does he actually mean?

He could be saying it's the US. Or Britain. Or Poland.

But he could be saying it's Iran.

And there's always the, "If an Arab was hurt, only the Israelis stand to gain from it" line of "reasoning."

On the other hand, possibly it's actually the Israelis controlling the 100% Jewish Congress to use their puppets the Iranians to get the Danes to bribe the Tunavuans to send in covert teams of Tutsis.

So hard to know these things.

[Frederik]

15. Iran makes little sense

as these are Sunnis for the most part, unless they want to instigate a Sunni-Shiite civil war, which I doubt. Iran wants a friendly government in Baghdad, which they pretty much have now, why attack the same government?

Israel obviously wants the US to stay in Iraq, and fears a stable, independent Iraq aligned with Iran, so it's not unthinkable that they would try to foment sectarian violence and ensure that the US are bogged down in Iraq.

For that matter, it could be Saudi intelligence, which probably does not favor a Shia-dominated, Iran-friendly Iraq.
Since many appaear to be Saudis, that is perhaps the most likely possibility.

But it seems likely that there is an intelligence service involved in the influx of fighters, if indeed it is as substantial as many reports suggest.

[Igel]

16. I don't know ... having Iranian Shi'ites strike at Sunnis for the Sunni

strikes against Shi'a has a certain logic. If you sit there and let your kid brother get kicked every few days, it might pay to go raise the stakes.

Could be Sa'udi. But mostly I was echoing back to various quasi-conspiratorial views. Some see the hand of Iran in everything Shi'ite in Iraq. Others see the US behind every bad thing that happens in Iraq--both this, and also attacks on Shi'ite sites.

Then there's my main target: the too-frequent meaning many a Salafist has when he says "foreign intelligence" or "foreign hands"--whether in Lebanon, Egypt, Yemen, Sa'udi Arabia, or Pakistan. Israeli/Jewish.