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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 01:44 PM
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raw story = 52 HOUSE MEMBERS FILE FOIA REQUEST (DSM - updated
Edited on Thu Jun-30-05 02:09 PM by wakeme2008
http://www.rawstory.com/

FLASH: 38 HOUSE MEMBERS FILE FOIA REQUEST WITH WHITE HOUSE, STATE DEPARTMENT OVER DOWNING QUESTIONS... DEVELOPING HARD...

==== Banner at top of page.....


:woohoo: :woohoo: :yoiks: :yoiks: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 01:47 PM
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1. 38 Backbones....N/T
Edited on Thu Jun-30-05 02:16 PM by Lochloosa
Edit: To 52 Backbones....

:toast:
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 02:09 PM
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6. You're 14 backbones short
Within 20 minutes, the headline now reads "52 House members file FOIA request seeking documents related to Downing Street minutes!"

:woohoo:
rocknation
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 07:01 PM
Response to Reply #1
59. Who are the 52?
I can read the first (JOHN CONYERS, of course!) and a few others(McDermott, Watt, P. Kenndey), but do we have a list of all 52?
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 01:51 PM
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2. These prickly requests must be getting nettlesome and raising a few
hackles.
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oregonjen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 01:51 PM
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3. When will we know who are the 38?
If there are any from Oregon, I would love to call and thank them.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 02:18 PM
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7. signatures appear on the story page..
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 02:54 PM
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18. I see Peter DeFazio's name on the list
He's my rep and I couldn't be prouder.
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:03 PM
Response to Reply #18
24. I covet your Congressman
I've just got that toady, Walden.
:-(
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oregonjen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:22 PM
Response to Reply #18
27. I called Darlene Hooley's office and thanked her!
The person who answered the phone was really happy, too!
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 04:18 PM
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42. I can't believe Hooley signed!
This is great!! :)
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oregonjen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 04:29 PM
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47. I also asked if Hooley would participate in the town hall meetings
that Conyers is having nationwide on July 23rd. She said that Hooley is scheduled to be in DC, so maybe not. If more people call and request that she be here, I bet she would feel the pressure to fly back. I know I would join in. Hooley is my Rep and I want her to be involved in this.
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 05:56 PM
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55. She's my rep too... for now
(I'm moving to Albany/Defazio's District). I'll call her office too.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 01:55 PM
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4. Hmmmm.....
Edited on Thu Jun-30-05 01:56 PM by meganmonkey
Maybe we'll get some fireworks for the holiday weekend?!

:bounce:

(not that we'll see the results of the request that quick, but hopefully we'll get some whining administration officials!)
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 01:58 PM
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5. What is ironic about this...
...the freeper posts I am reading on several boards are STILL disputing whether the DSMs were forged, authenticated, etc.

Talk about being a day late and a dollar short....those assholes are still debating whether Bush fixed the intelligence or not because the DSMs are not really for real and they are doing this while some members of Congress are out getting docs based on the DSMs. Sheesh! What will it take for these RW assholes to see the light?
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 02:18 PM
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8. The one thing they refuse to do...
In answer to your question, " What will it take for these RW assholes to see the light?", it will require them taking off their blinders. This, like their Chimp leader, they refuse to do.

Thinking about things, trying to base conclusions on facts, and checking the facts to be sure they are correct, is too hard for them. Like Bush, they make up their minds about something, then contort all evidence to confirm what they believe. I believe the DSM provides an example of how their chickenhawk hero lied us into this illegal war. That's exactly the same way they do.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 02:22 PM
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10. Hey, "Hepburn"!
There are surely other forums still disputing whether the DSMs were forged or not! I think you know which one I'm talking about! It's great to see you here!!
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 02:41 PM
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13. Youza, Jen!!!
LOL, I think we BOTH know which forum still has idiots who are disputing this....and I do not mean just Free Republic!

Great to see you here, too, my friend. :patriot:
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 02:42 PM
Response to Reply #10
15. BTW: Welcome to DU!
Great to see you!!! :headbang:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:56 PM
Response to Reply #15
33. Thanks!
Thanks for the welcome and the cool smiley! :hi:
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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 04:33 PM
Response to Reply #33
48. Hepburn & Jen --
Does your board sorta rhyme with 'hot' by any chance?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 07:13 PM
Response to Reply #48
61. No...
But it rhymes with "sort we be"! ;-)
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 07:43 PM
Response to Reply #48
63. No...it doesn't. n/t
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 04:07 PM
Response to Reply #10
38. Jenmito... Welcome to DU!!!
:hi:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 07:15 PM
Response to Reply #38
62. Thanks!
Thanks, Rainscents! :hi:
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 02:55 PM
Response to Reply #5
19. They seem invested in an administration which hasn't produced what it
promised (WMD, Mission Accomplished etc.) so if your expectations are that low, you would think that they couldn't go any lower and would wrap back to the facts at some point.
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 02:59 PM
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20. They have their blinders on
and they have their fingers in their ears while chanting their mantra: "must stop gay marriages, must stop gay marriages, must stop gay marriages..." to drown out anything critical of their anointed misleader.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 02:19 PM
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9. Wow!!! They must be getting a LOT of traffic 'cause,...
,...I can't get their page to open.

This is spectacular!!! :bounce:
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 02:24 PM
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11. Link is up
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lateo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 02:39 PM
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12. Is John Kerry on the list?
Some of the signatures are terrible...
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 02:42 PM
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16. These are House members who signed the FOIA request.
JK is not a member of the House.
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lateo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 02:44 PM
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17. Ahhh....
Can we expect a similar event from the members of the Senate?
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:22 PM
Response to Reply #17
28. Only if this gets good publicity,
and does well in the FOCUS groups, then expect a pale imitation.
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 09:56 PM
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68. Lateo, please read this thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1578858&mesg_id=1578858

Looks like Senator Kerry is the person who is leading the charge in the Senate. :)
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 02:42 PM
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14. God I love John Conyers, and Jim McDermott (my rep) and everyone else
who signed this request.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:25 PM
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29. Your Oregonian neighbor loves Jim McDermott, too
I was so pleased to see his name on the list. I was hoping to see Wu's name, but unless it's a totally indecipherable signature, it's not on there :(

This is good news, though, this is very good!

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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:54 PM
Response to Reply #14
32. He is also my Rep! We need to call Jay Inslee's office and have
him sign on! What do you think?
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 04:22 PM
Response to Reply #32
44. I am surprised his name isn't on there. He has been terrific too.
We've got some good ones up here, don't we?
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beboplives Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:02 PM
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21. The only way this wall will crumble.........
Is for the pressure to continue to trickle, trickle, until it becomes a mighty stream. The DSM would be dead on arrival were it not for the efforts of progressive citizens of all political stripes who want their country to live up to its ideals, and the efforts of a few representatives, like Congressman Conyers, who have spines, and cajones.

please visit a new addition to the socio-political blogosphere at: www.recipesfromthebigtop.typepad.com
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 04:06 PM
Response to Reply #21
37. Beboplives... Welcome to DU!!!
Thanks for the link!!!:hi:
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newscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:02 PM
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22. Barney's there. Good job Barney!!!!
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:02 PM
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23. John Conyers is going to UK on july 23 or (27) to look at ORIGINAL
Edited on Thu Jun-30-05 03:15 PM by Rainscents
government documents of DSM and talk with Brit governments!!! I just heard this on Ed Schultz!!

BTW... I sign up 8 more people on DSM

:toast: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :kick: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :patriot:
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:53 PM
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31. Be VERY careful and our prayers are with you John!!
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:56 PM
Response to Reply #31
34. Yes, we must all pray for him!
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 04:26 PM
Response to Reply #23
45. WoooooooooooHooooooooooooo!!!!
Way to go....and maybe it will end the RW bullshit that they are not for real.


Ummmmm.....on second throught: Strike that....knowing how the freepers think, they will say Conyers is lying rather than admit that the DSMs are for real.
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 07:05 PM
Response to Reply #23
60. that is outstanding. Conyers is a hero
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 10:35 PM
Response to Reply #23
69. Nice!!! Go John!
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:16 PM
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25. Pretty unusual, isn't it, for congress to be using FOIA
Wouldn't something this serious usually have subpoena power... like a bipartisan investigation...

Zogby poll has 25% of republicans saying they would support impeachment if bush lied? Aren't the house repo's getting nervous about covering for this crime wave?
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 04:29 PM
Response to Reply #25
46. So Subpoena Power Because THEY Control All Committees
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 06:59 PM
Response to Reply #25
58. They are part of the syndicate.
They've cast their lot with the boy-king. 30 years ago, there'd be Republicans who'd be leading the charge for impeachment. Not this bunch. They've been groomed and nuetered to rubber stamp and ask no questions of the BFEE.
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Lecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 09:04 PM
Response to Reply #25
66. Only 25% of republicans? God they make me sick
I wonder how many of those same republicans thought that Clinton should have been impeached because he lied about a BJ.
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 10:36 PM
Response to Reply #66
71. Those numbers will just keep....climbing....
.....As it slithers and foams like puss.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:21 PM
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26. OK DU codebreakers, lets get to work.
Edited on Thu Jun-30-05 03:31 PM by bvar22
I recognize:

Jim Oberstar, Minnesota

Barney Frank, Mass

Robert Wexler, Fla.

Carolyn Maloney, NY

Tom Udall, NM

Sam Farr, Ca.

Darlene Hooley, OR

Frank Pallone, NJ

Susan Davis, CA

John Lewis, Ga

Melvin Watt, NC

Hilda Solis, CA

Patrick Kennedy, RI

Jim Langevin, RI

Louise Slaughter, NY

Donald Payne, NJ

John Tierney, MA

Grace Napolitano, CA

Ted Strickland, OH

Mark Udall, CO

Diana DeGette, CO

John Conyers, MI

Dennis Kucinich, OH YAY!

Mike Thompson, CA

Jim McDermott, WA

William Clay, MO

Marcy Kaptur, OH

Maxine Waters, CA

Raul Grijalva, AZ

Chris Van Hollen, MD



Please look at the Raw Story page.






See if YOUR congressman/woman is ON THE LIST!
Please add names you decipher to the list at top.


These politicians will be asking for money and support.
I will NO LONGER fight for politicians who REFUSE to fight for me!

I am writing a hardcopy letter to MY Congresswoman, Betty McCollum (who is mostly GREAT) asking why her name isn't on the list of patriots.
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phoebe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 04:03 PM
Response to Reply #26
35. Sheila Jackson Lee - TX, Pete De Fazio - OR, John Dingell - MI,
Edited on Thu Jun-30-05 04:14 PM by phoebe
Barbara Lee - CA, Kendrick Meek (?) - FL, John Tierney - MA
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old blue Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 05:43 PM
Response to Reply #35
52. Yes! I contacted Dingell about DSM a couple weeks ago.
Proud of my Congressman.
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 04:04 PM
Response to Reply #26
36. William Clay Missouri
He's not my rep, but he's a hell of a sight better than the nazi scumbag that is supposedly representing me.
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Mr.Green93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 04:12 PM
Response to Reply #26
39. I'm Calling Out
Ben Chandler, 6th district Kentucky. How about it Ben?
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 04:15 PM
Response to Reply #26
40. On a quick read, add:
Edited on Thu Jun-30-05 04:19 PM by Steve_DeShazer
Sheila Jackson Lee

John Dingell

Peter DeFazio

Jim McDermott

Brian Baird

Barbara Lee

Diana DeGette

Chris Van Hollen

Julia Carson

Tim Ryan

on edit add:

Raul Grijalva

John Tierney

Chaka Fattah
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:50 PM
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30. Kick for the After 5 crowd and nominated
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blitzburgh55 Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 04:15 PM
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41. Tony Blair Confirms Authenticity of Downing Street Memo
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 04:19 PM
Response to Reply #41
43. Please put this on front of home page!!!
WOW... This is it!!!!!!!!
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 04:48 PM
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49. Woo hoo!
:kick:
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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 04:54 PM
Response to Reply #49
50. Where's Stefanie Tubbs-Jones??
Our African-American Hero from Cleveland who is very outspoken against the Shrub and his cronies? I'd love to see her name on there.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 05:38 PM
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51. Updated list:
Jim Oberstar, Minnesota

Barney Frank, Mass

Robert Wexler, Fla.

Carolyn Maloney, NY

Tom Udall, NM

Sam Farr, Ca.

Darlene Hooley, OR

Frank Pallone, NJ

Susan Davis, CA

John Lewis, Ga

Melvin Watt, NC

Hilda Solis, CA

Patrick Kennedy, RI

Jim Langevin, RI

Louise Slaughter, NY

Donald Payne, NJ

John Tierney, MA

Grace Napolitano, CA

Ted Strickland, OH

Mark Udall, CO

Diana DeGette, CO

John Conyers, MI

Dennis Kucinich, OH YAY!

Mike Thompson, CA

Jim McDermott, WA

William Clay, MO

Marcy Kaptur, OH

Maxine Waters, CA

Raul Grijalva, AZ

Chris Van Hollen, MD

Barbara Lee, CA

Kendrick Meek, FL

Sheila Jackson Lee, TX

Pete De Fazio, OR

John Dingell, MI

Chaka Fattah, PA

Julia Carson, IN

Tim Ryan, OH

Brian Baird, WA

Barbara Lee, CA

Sheila Jackson Lee, TX

John Dingell, MI



Please check the following list from Raw Story.
Look for YOUR Rep. If he or she is there, send hard copy congrats.
If NOT there, ask why their name is NOT on this list opf PATRIOTS.
If you can decipher any other names, Please add to list.








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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 06:10 PM
Response to Reply #51
56. Louise Slaughter, my idol!! repping NY with the best of 'em!!
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phoebe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 10:36 PM
Response to Reply #51
70. add Maurice Hinchey - NY - he spoke at Conyer's meeting
Edited on Thu Jun-30-05 10:36 PM by phoebe
and his sig. is on this list
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 05:51 PM
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53. Time to rip off a letter to my rep
Sherrod Brown, gotta encourage him to sign on to this.
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 05:52 PM
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54. Will this actually work, other than to raise awareness?
After all, don't forget: these people are CRIMINALS. They don't have any respect for our laws. Their M.O. is to keep their grip on power at all costs, even if they have to destroy or end lives to do it. You don't think they're just going to hand over documents that incriminate them because there's such a thing as the Freedom of Information Act, do you?

No, someone else will have to give them up. My money is on the federal judge who's forcing those two journalists (if you can call Judith Miller that) to give up their source. I don't agree with putting any journalist in prison, but it may be the only way to show a direct and illegal manipulation of information by these crooks in order to maintain control.
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 06:22 PM
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57. Joyful days for our side lately
I don't like winning like this however. The US is in shambles.
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 08:32 PM
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64. Simply put:
:woohoo: :applause: :patriot:
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 08:56 PM
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65. Hooray!
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 09:36 PM
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67. Chris Van Hollen- yea!
Although I loved Connie Morella, this is an excellent example of why it matters to have Dems representing us in Maryland.
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True_Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 10:56 PM
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72. Time to get that incompetent POS out of the White House
and back to his ranch where he can shovel shit like he was born to do.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 11:10 PM
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73. Or...
He can "milk" his male horse.
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 11:24 PM
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74. he didn't buy the ranch until 1999
It's strictly a set piece, calculated to make the dauphin more "Reagan-esque". Mourning in America.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 11:46 PM
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75. Blogged by John Conyers
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