Report: Israel Was Warned Ahead of First Blast

[Domitan]

(IsraelNN.com) Army Radio quoting unconfirmed reliable sources reported a short time ago that Scotland Yard had intelligence warnings of the attacks a short time before they occurred.

The Israeli Embassy in London was notified in advance, resulting in Finance Minister Binyamin Netanyahu remaining in his hotel room rather than make his way to the hotel adjacent to the site of the first explosion, a Liverpool Street train station, where he was to address and economic summit.

At present, train and bus service in London have been suspended following the series of attacks. No terrorist organization has claimed responsibility at this time.

Israeli officials stress the advanced Scotland Yard warning does not in any way indicate Israel was the target in the series of apparent terror attacks.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=85346

[Roland99]

1. I'd take that with a HUGE grain of salt

[Pirate Smile]

30. Yes, Al Queda doesn't warn.

[Roland99]

53. The same shit was said after the 9/11 attacks...that Israel knew ahead.

It's just fringe people looking to bash Israel.

[The Backlash Cometh]

2. If it there was a warning call to the Yard, then it could have been

home-grown terrorist.

[elehhhhna]

34. The IRA usualy calls ahead.

[Frederik]

3. They mentioned on CNN London just now

Israeli embassy could have been a target.

[cal04]

4. something mentioned here and Netanyahu changed plans

A SERIES of terrorist bombings closed the London Underground and destroyed at least one bus, sending the city into panic this morning in what police believe was a co-ordinated attack.

Prime Minister Tony Blair said people had died and been seriously injured in a series of terrorist attacks. The BBC reports that a group called the Organisation of Al Qaeda and Jihad in Europe had claimed responsibility for the bombings. The report could not be verified.

There is also an unconfirmed report that Scotland Yard was aware of the possible attacks. A senior Israeli official reportedly said that Scotland Yard told Israel minutes before the explosions it had received warnings of possible terror attacks.

http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=752232005
Netanyahu Changed Plans Due to Warning
British police told the Israeli Embassy in London minutes before Thursday's explosions that they had received warnings of possible terror attacks in the city, a senior Israeli official said. Benjamin Netanyahuhad planned to attend an economic conference in a hotel over the subway stop where one of the blasts occurred, and the warning prompted him to stay in his hotel room instead, government officials said.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050707/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_britain_explosions_1

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[theearthisround]

10. Indeed, as the roman judges said, Cui Bono? (who benefits?)

[MetaTrope]

11. The good news is that I doubt Scotland Yard is in Blair's pocket

in quite the way Homeland Security is in Bush's...

[StrafingMoose]

28. Weird indeed

You have the Israelis giving forewarning (as small as it is) AND Blair leaves the G8 meeting and gets back INTO the bombed capital, aren't they suppose to get him OUT of London, not IN, when something like that happens?

[question everything]

49. You mean: Israelis GIVEN, not GIVING, right? n/t

[StrafingMoose]

56. Well...

On Radio-Canada here we have:

"Selon un haut responsable israélien, Scotland Yard avait reçu des informations sur ces attentats peu avant qu'ils ne se produisent."


Which means Scotland Yard DID receive information BEFORE the explosions, but not from Israel, you're right. Of course, they might have not updated or maybe the national TV/Radio here in Canada likes to slander Israel...

[geek tragedy]

51. Not weird, since the story is BOGUS.

Netanyahu was warned not to go into the city AFTER the first explosion.

[Ian David]

35. Well, then I shouldn't have canceled my subscription to The Protocols

I haven't been keeping up-to-date with our plans for world domination since I had that operation to remove my horns and tail.

[Colorado Blue]

60. What about your green draconian skin? Oi.

[Colorado Blue]

38. OH GIVE ME STRENGTH. I knew it. The minute something

happens anywhere in the world, ISRAEL KNEW ABOUT IT MONTHS IN ADVANCE.

We should live so long.

This comment is tasteless and beyond offensive, besides being silly.

[StrafingMoose]

44. actually...

...intelligence agencies know/knew it. Not just "Israelis". I don't know in this case, but if you refer to 9/11, it wasn't JUST the Mossad.

[Colorado Blue]

47. People may have HAD INTIMATIONS. That doesn't mean

they knew anything specific. There are ALWAYS hints of trouble, it is constant, and probably hundreds of attempts are foiled before one succeeds.

And Mossad is the Israeli intelligence service so the implication is pretty obvious.

If your point was to suggest that INTELLIGENCE SERVICES had prior information or inklings about a possible attack - why not just say so? One presumes CIA, Interpol and MI-5 are also on the job?

[StrafingMoose]

52. Please...

do your 9/11 homeworks.

If WE can connect the dots EASILY with was in the news before/after the fact, they could easily connect the dots also BEFORE the fact.

If you can find this in the media, I wonder how much more does CIA/Mossad/MI6 knew - unless your saying that everything they have on hand IS in the news...

[Colorado Blue]

58. I've had enough. I will NOT participate in any discussion

involving Jewish Conspiracy Theories.

Progressives should be asking what can be done about the rifts in the world that cause terrorism, not trying to invent a bunch of crap or circulate a bunch of stupid rumors involving the "Al Judea Moving Company", Jews Staying Home From Work on 9/11, the Biggest Case of Landlord Lightning In History or Israeli Art Students Who Knew About The Attack But Didn't Tell Bush.

Hello? The FBI warned Bush about 52 times. CLINTON warned Bush about Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda is NOT a figment of the imagination, as all these theories imply.

Dr. Dean was right about this. It's antisemitic.

The real problems in the world are severe and THAT is what we should be working on, how to bring this world closer together so that tragic misunderstandings, the kind of cultural and religious disconnect that creates al Qaedas, can be mitigated.

The fact is, al Qaeda had been bombing and terrorizing throughout the 1990's, long before 9/11, and the Bush Administration was repeatedly warned about it by the Clinton Administration - but they were so damned incompetent they didn't listen.

Indeed Bin Ladin was radicalized against the US by the presence of US troops in Saudi Arabia during Gulf War I. Prior to that he'd actually been an ally of sorts, in Afghanistan during the war with the Soviets - armed by us and funded by Saudi Arabia.

I suggest YOU do some homework. Perhaps start by reading "House of Bush, House of Saud," by Craig Unger.

[StrafingMoose]

62. You've said it....

Every one knew, no one acted. Great. Actually Bush did act. With a "199" (National Security) NSDD that basicaly threatened FBI & CIA agents from getting too close to Benny & Qaeda.

Everything you said isn't really inconsistent with the theory of 9/11 foreknowledge, in fact in reinforces it.

The only reference I made about Mossad is having foreknowledge of 9/11 AMONG other people/agencies.

What's your point?

[MetaTrope]

6. Lucky!

I bet those terrorist threats must be pretty rare for him to cancel his appearances so readily, eh?

[wallwriter]

7. A phonecall undoubtedly came in to the Trilateral Commission....

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[Kellanved]

8. Israeli Official Denies Pre-Attack Warning

JERUSALEM (AP) - Israel was not warned about possible terror attacks in London before a series of blasts ripped through the city, Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom said Thursday.

A Foreign Ministry official, speaking on condition of anonymity, had said earlier that British police warned the Israeli Embassy in London of possible terror attacks minutes before the first explosion.

``There was no early information about terrorist attacks,'' Shalom told Israel Army Radio later. ``After the first explosion an order was given that no one move until things become clear. ``

Israel was holding an economic conference in a hotel over the London subway stop where one of the blasts occurred. Israeli Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was supposed to attend the conference, but ``after the first explosion our finance minister received a request not to go anywhere,'' Shalom said.
...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5124244,00.html

[rman]

9. "unconfirmed reliable sources"

Sorry, but that makes me LOL.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

12. Oh, Knock It Off...

That kind of crapola has been circulating (and thoroughly debunked) since 9/11.

[MetaTrope]

13. Sure, let's ignore all new data

Right.

[Frederik]

14. Do you have any examples

of this purported debunking?

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

15. Google it yourself...

I don't have the time or patience to deal with nonsense.

[Frederik]

17. Thank you

I have research 9/11 thoroughly for about a year, which you obviously has not.

[Ian David]

37. I have research spelling and grammar for 35 years...

which you obviously has not.

[uppityperson]

50. very good. Be on guord

[Tempest]

22. Your surrender is noted

You can't say it's been debunked, and then tell someone to "Google it yourself".

Not only is it cowardly, it shows you don't have the fortitude to finish what you started.

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[saigon68]

25. ADIOS

[sleipnir]

16. No, it hasn't been debunked.

There were many "irregularities" involving Israel leading up to 9-11 and on the very same day.

Some, including the internet messaging of Israeli-citizen employees of WTC have been proven true.

Think what you will, but there is more to the 9-11 story and Israel than we were led to believe. I'm in the LIHOP category and I think Israel tried to warn the President and other members of the government for weeks, but it all fell on purposefully deaf ears.

[amazona]

18. yeah sure we always hear these rumors

I'll retain my skepticism.

[eardoc]

19. Now on Yahoo News

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050707/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_britain_explosions_1
British police told the Israeli Embassy in London minutes before Thursday's explosions that they had received warnings of possible terror attacks in the city, a senior Israeli official said.

[lateo]

20. I wonder if the Al Judea Moving company was nearby...

Any white vans reported?

[Colorado Blue]

33. Shame on you. NO TEXT NECESSARY.

[lateo]

46. It wasn't a joke.

Well, it was partly a joke...that is how I deal with being uncomfortable..You are aware of the 9/11 connection with the white moving vans aren't you?

[jmc777]

65. Of course he/she is aware of Urban Moving Systems...

....but if you talk about it, you're an "anti-semite". :eyes:

[Coastie for Truth]

You connect the dots any way you want

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

:patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:

I am also aware of Lawrence Livermore Lab in Livermore CA - where the US designs its WMD's.

It is just up the Altemont Pass from me.

I am aware that CHINA HAS THE BOMB.

I am aware of the massive population of Chinese in Livermore CA.

I am aware that CHINA HAS THE BOMB.

I am aware of the massive population of Chinese Physicists, Chemists, Computer Jocks, etc. in Livermore CA.

I am aware that CHINA HAS THE BOMB.

I remember the Wen Ho Lin conspiracy hysteria.

I am aware that CHINA HAS THE BOMB.

I am aware the the Peoples Republic of China bought IBM's computer business.

I am aware that CHINA HAS THE BOMB.

I am aware that China is trying to buy Unocal.

I am aware that CHINA HAS THE BOMB.

I am aware the the Peoples Republic of China is seeking to purchase the latest generation of semiconductor fabrication equipment from Applied Materials in Santa Clara CA.

I am aware that CHINA HAS THE BOMB.

I am aware of Chines moving companies all over Livermore CA.

I am aware that CHINA HAS THE BOMB.

I am aware that China's massive oil purchases are driving crude oil up over $61/bbl.

I am aware that CHINA HAS THE BOMB.

Connect the dots.

My dot connection is as valid as Lateos -- and as totally flawed and racist and as deserving of being deleted.



:patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:


:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

I put in an over abundance of ":sarcasm:" smilies so that even the least literate realize that this is mocking and :sarcasm: and does not reflect any racism.

I apologize in advance to any Asians and Asian-Americans for any who so mis-interpret this append.

[Betsy Ross]

24. Shouldn't this thread be moved

from LBN to Crackpot Jew-Baiting?

[eardoc]

26. suggest you contact the crackpots at Yahoo News

[QuettaKid]

27. actually...the name of the moving company was

Urban Moving System's....

A few days after the attacks, Urban Moving System's Israeli owner, Dominick Suter, dropped his business and fled the country for Israel. He was in such a hurry to flee America that some of Urban Moving System's customers were left with their furniture stranded in storage facilities (20).

It was later confirmed that the five detained Israelis were in fact Mossad agents (21). They were held in custody for 71 days before being quietly released. Some of the movers had been kept in solitary confinement for 40 days. (22)

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html

[Monkie]

67. excellent timeline,well sourced, but the site is unacceptable to many.

when discussing the highly controversial i would advise you use the original sources,people have a hard time accepting "facts" from some sources for good reasons.

[Colorado Blue]

32. Right on. I don't know what is happening to DU but the

number of crackpot Jew-baiters has risen and become increasingly vocal.

I think it is DISGUSTING.

[MetaTrope]

40. How do you equate the Israeli government with all Israelis?

Do you also think that the Bush Junta encompasses all Americans?

[Colorado Blue]

54. I do not equate GOI with all Israeli people. But the fact that

Israel is, in any context, mentioned as somehow being involved in ANYTHING that happens ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD, is bigotry. Period.

And I'm sick of it.

The fact is, Israel is a democratic state with only 6 million people and yet is constantly being targeted on this site as being the Demon In Chief on this entire planet. That's just an extension of the old bigotry that blames Jews for everything - read through this thread, you'll see a bunch of crap about 9/11, even.

Just now, folks can say, it's ISRAEL, then weasel some more by saying, no, we meant the Israeli GOVERNMENT, as if that gets them off the hook.

And meanwhile, not a WORD about the actual TERRORISTS, or any expression whatsoever of sympathy or concern for the VICTIMS. I find that amazing, sad and disgusting.

And, if in fact you're equating the Israeli government with Bush, why not just say, Bush was involved or CIA?

Why not BLAIR?

[MetaTrope]

55. Yes, Bush and Blair too

And don't forget the Saudi royalty...

[geek tragedy]

43. You mean IP or the 911 ghetto?

Either way, this crap is not LBN.

[jmc777]

66. No. n/t

[PATRICK]

29. Anymore luck like that

and Israeli ambassadors will be running for the border.

Coincidence favors the right.

[mistertrickster]

31. I don't think we should assume Al Qaeda at this point. Britain has

a lot of people who hate it--there are still some Irish terrorists around, could be anti-market anarchists.

Although, I have to admit this sounds a lot like the train bombings in Spain . . .

[Ian David]

39. Maybe the French are really mad about losing the Olympics

Was there a trail of onions leading to the subway?

[mistertrickster]

45. Heh, under other circumstances that would be funny. It probably IS

Al Qaeda, but not enough evidence at this point to say much of anything, IMHO.

[Ian David]

48. This sort of thing happens EVERY SINGLE DAY in Iraq

Why doesn't The Today show spend all morning covering THOSE bombings?

Oh, I forgot...

It's usually only Brown People.

[lala_rawraw]

36. Huge grain of salt ... HUGE

They are playing the muslims against the Jews.

[Ian David]

42. And the gays. Don't forget the gays.

After all, the far right needs a common scapegoat they can all unite against.

[geek tragedy]

41. This story is BULLSHIT. See these links:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2005-07-07-israel-londonblasts_x.htm?POE=NEWISVA
http://breakingnews.iol.ie/news/story.asp?j=122117840&p=yzzyy84zx
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/597363.html

<snip>
Israeli Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was on his way to a hotel near the scene of one of the London blasts Thursday when he received a call to stay put, the foreign minister said.

"After the first explosion, our finance minister received a request not to go anywhere," Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom told Israel Army Radio.
<snip>

http://breakingnews.iol.ie/news/story.asp?j=122106240&p=yzzyx68zx

<snip>
Israel was not warned about possible terror attacks in London before at least six blasts ripped through the city, Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom said today.

A Foreign Ministry official had said earlier that British police warned the Israeli Embassy in London of possible terror attacks minutes before the first explosion.

“There was no early information about terrorist attacks,” Shalom told Israel Army Radio. “After the first explosion an order was given that no one move until things become clear.”

Israel was holding an economic conference in a hotel over the underground stop where one of the blasts occurred. Israeli Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was supposed to attend the conference, but “after the first explosion our finance minister received a request not to go anywhere,” Shalom said.
<snip>

All the 'anti-zionists' who see a yamulke behind every terrorist bombing should just give it a rest.

[leftofthedial]

57. why is it that EVERY time there is a major incident

the Israelis are said to have known in advance?

[Colorado Blue]

59. Bigotry, pure and simple. That's the only word for it and it

is unseemly and DISGUSTING on a progressive website.

People, it is time for a reality check.

Who are we?

Are we working for a better world? Or are we working to demonize a group of people, trying to stir up trouble and deflecting attention from the real problems that confront us all?

[leftofthedial]

64. It is not DU, but the media, who are reporting this

I'm also not asking why Israel is *blamed*, merely that they are said to have warned the victim in advance (almost always to no effect).

There are anti-Semites, but this is different.

[geek tragedy]

61. Because the Israelis are Jews, and Jewish conspiracy theories

are a staple of the paranoid loons of the world.

[rman]

63. You mean Irael National News has jumped on the kook bandwagon?

Or maybe they just make up this stuff?

Either way it is highly peculiar.

[Moderator]

68. locking

This story has been discredited.