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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:36 AM
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Al Jazeera: Phony reports link Al Qaeda to London attacks
"A group calling itself "The Secret Organization of Al Qaeda in Europe" posted a statement on an internet site, claiming responsibility for the deadly attacks that hit London on Thursday.

But MSNBC TV translator Jacob Keryakes said that the statement in which the group claimed responsibility for the attacks contained an error in one of the Qura’nic verses it cited. That suggests that the claim is phony, he said.

"This is not something Al Qaeda would do," he said."

"The group, claiming to be Al Qaeda wing in Europe claimed responsibility for the last major attacks in Europe, including the string of bombs that shook commuter trains in Madrid, Spain in March 2004, killing 191 people.

Two days after that attack, a video was released with a statement purported to be from the group's spokesman, calling himself "Abu Dujan."

"The statement was signed "The Secret Organization of Al Qaeda in Europe."

http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=8925



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Monkie Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:38 AM
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1. that isnt the real al-jazeera! english.aljazeera.net n/t
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 12:22 PM
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9. By golly! You are right!I just checked it out:
old al-jazeera:
http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage Real al-jazeera:

The new thing:
http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=8925

The new site looks interesting. Check out their article on conspiricy theories:

http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi%2Dbin/conspiracy%5Ftheory/fullstory.asp?id=249


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By: Ian Henshall

After the Madrid attacks, blamed first on ETA then on "Al Qaeda" network, the media in Spain discovered that the alleged bombers had intimate links with key members of the Spanish bomb squad.

We detail the evidence for this in our book 911 Revealed.

48% of New Yorkers now believe the 9/11 attacks were "consciously" allowed to happen by elements in the U.S. government (Zogby). The anthrax attacks were traced to a U.S. military strain of anthrax and, contrary to the neo-con claims at the time, had no connection with Iraq.

The timing of the London attack is a political godsend for Tony Blair, coming only one day after the decision to award the 2012 Olympics to London, and while he is facing a public revolt over plans to introduce identity cards. Already the authorities are fostering an atmosphere of panic, with the likely intention of strengthening their political hand in Westminster.

On past experience it is likely that the authorities will rapidly arrest a group of alleged "terrorists" who, they will say, are linked to "Al Qaeda".
The mainstream media should ask the following questions:

1. Why did a senior police officer tell the BBC less than twenty four hours before the London attacks that the London police felt that they were on top of the terrorist threat?

2. Were the alleged bombers under surveillance before the attacks, and if not how were they apprehended?

3. To what extent were the bombers motivated by rage at the failure of the UK media to report truthfully on the war on Iraq where torture and death squad killings by the U.S./UK puppet regime have reached a similar scale to the Saddam Hussein regime.

4. Does the Blair government now admit that the illegal invasion of Iraq has aided terrorism?

5. Blair boasted to the Jewish Chronicle that he has given more support to Israel than any other UK premier. Will Blair now reconsider his support for Ariel Sharon and his decision to breach his own arms guidelines to supply the occupation forces there with the means to kill Palestinian children?

6. Why did initial reports say the Underground was disrupted by a power surge?


Good find monkie!
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Monkie Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 12:37 PM
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10. thxs,al-jazeera.COM is a conspiracy site i believe set up before
al-jazeera satellite station had a website.
the .com al-jazeera seems to mostly recycle news from other sites and i would advise people to check anything reported there on more reputable sites to verify information.

There is a excellent documentary on Al-Jazeera called "control room"
which for me was a eye-opener.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0391024/

"I don't, on average, give anything a 10 out of 10. Control Room, however, I simply cannot praise enough. If there were ever a quintessential journalistic document to point to 100 years down the road and say: "THAT was what it was like in the world, sonny boy," this documentary would be it. It will make you feel differently about journalistic objectivity, terrorism, mortality, and (most importantly) the world outside the United States"

not everyone knows that Al-Jazeera television was started from the ashes of BBC Arabic Television many of the employees, journalists, editors are ex-BBC

http://www.richardsonmedia.co.uk/al%20jazeera%20origins.html
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 12:47 PM
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11. Thanks for the info monkie and for the link to Control Room!
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:38 AM
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2. who knows who did it
I don't necessarily buy this "Secret Organization" thing

it sounds all too pat

:tinfoilhat:
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:34 PM
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18. Who is "who?"
If "who" knows then, by all means, "who" should speak up.
Just kidding. I always wanted to do that.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 04:20 PM
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20. oh okay
I'm too tired to try and figure out what you posted

I need a nap
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:28 PM
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22. Just goofing around.
Kind of a take on the "Who's on First" joke.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:54 AM
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3. The secret order of the men in long robes and beards....
My bullshit radar is going wild on this one. This sounds like some flunky in some alphabet agency pulled this one out of his ass and tried to put it across as real.

first question: if they are secret, why are they revealing themselves?

second: do they have a special handshake?

and lastly: what does their initiation consist of? if it's anything like the skull and bones, then we are in for a long hall.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 12:02 PM
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7. LOL
My thoughts exactly. When I first heard it I thought of the 9/11 hijackers' car found with a Koran and flight instruction manuals in the trunk.
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 01:50 PM
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14. The Secret Hanshake
Yes, they do have a secret handshake!

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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:22 PM
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17. agree-secret?!! o please
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:57 AM
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4. The misquote does raise suspicions. That isn't like Al Qaeda.
"But MSNBC TV translator Jacob Keryakes said that the statement in which the group claimed responsibility for the attacks contained an error in one of the Qura’nic verses it cited. That suggests that the claim is phony, he said.

"This is not something Al Qaeda would do," he said."

Whoever did this is bad at planting "evidence".
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 12:00 PM
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5. I thought Al Qaeda was a secret organization....sounds redundant
Maybe a secret organization inside a secret organization? Fascinating that they'd screw up a verse from their Quran.....were they using an English translation version?
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 12:01 PM
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6. Please make more obvious this is aljazeera.com
not al jazeera.net. Aljazeera.com recycles news, acts like a news clearinghouse. It is not the Al Jazeera that counters fox.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 12:07 PM
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8. I've been wondering
what is symbolic about London's transportation system. al Queda usually is big on symbolic type attacks.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 12:56 PM
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12. What goes around, comes around?
:shrug:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 01:23 PM
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13. Hadn't thought of that
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 01:53 PM
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15. This seems to be a phony al-Jazeera
(and not just a phony al-Qaida). But the story is legit.
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Monkie Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:37 PM
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19. the quote from msnbc is correct,link to original here
"But MSNBC TV translator Jacob Keryakes, who said that a copy of the message was later posted on a secular Web site, noted that the claim of responsibility contained an error in one of the Quranic verses it cited. That suggests that the claim may be phony, he said.

"This is not something al-Qaida would do," he said. "

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8496293/
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:21 PM
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16. Like 'clockwork' everytime bush/blair poll #'s drop dramatically
and the most recent #'s have been the worst to date - SOMETHING HAPPENS. blair is/was(?) on the brink of disaster, and now, horribly this attack in London. bush is get hit with bad #'s all over the place, plus the CIA leak matter...yet suddenly front and center at the G8 "hunting down the terrorists" with even greater resolve-AGAIN.

Fox news is almost appears glad the attacks happened to that the G8 will continue to focus on terrorism??!! disgusting.

bush and blair grab the glory while innocents have died and been gravely injured.
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drduffy Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 05:52 PM
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21. yeh, I will put on my tried and true tin foil hat and
complain that al qaeda, i don't think is so stupid. all they had to do was focus on Iraq and leave the rest alone to move towards their goals. An attack in London would be counter productive. Why do it? There is no good reason to do it. The timing, also, as mentioned above is too fortuitous for Bush and Blair. So WHY do it? Like Griffin says, always ask: "who does it benefit?"

The public is being played like a violin. By the bilderbirger viruosos. We are in deep shit because this crap is going to continue ad nauseum. And most will believe the lies. These folks are just as smart as anyone and they plan plan plan. MY only hope is that peak oil will bring it.... all of IT down. Maybe even make the bilderbirgers et. al vulnerable to those who have a big axe to grind. God, I can only hope.
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