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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 04:13 AM
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In Omaha, Rove touts Social Security plan
Edited on Sat Jul-09-05 04:21 AM by Judi Lynn
In Omaha, Rove touts Social Security plan
BY NATE JENKINS / Lincoln Journal Star



President Bush's top political orchestrator chose not to exercise his powers of political persuasion Friday on what could be a key swing vote in his boss' plan to retool Social Security.
White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove speaks at Ameritrade in Bellevue on Friday. (Eric Gregory)

Political observers expected Karl Rove, Bush's deputy chief of staff for policy, to possibly meet with Sen. Ben Nelson, D-Neb., Friday while in Omaha. Rove advertised Bush's plan to partially privatize Social Security to about 300 associates of Ameritrade at the company's Bellevue headquarters before heading to a state GOP fundraiser in downtown Omaha that was closed to reporters.

Nelson, who says he has not yet taken a firm position on the Social Security issue because it still lacks a definitive proposal, has been stroked for support by Bush administration officials as recently as Thursday. He joined U.S. Treasury Secretary John Snow in Omaha for a meeting with business leaders to discuss Social Security and the economy and just two days before that was contacted by White House Chief of Staff Andrew H. Card, Jr.

Bush himself talked to Nelson one-on-one when he came to Omaha in February to tout his Social Security plan, which hinges on allowing people to invest in personal accounts.

Nelson could also be a key figure in the selection of a new Supreme Court justice.
(snip/...)

http://www.journalstar.com/articles/2005/07/08/local/doc42cf060cbf828229509436.txt


Nelson's on the left.

On edit: Adding handsome photos of two fine Republicans:



Harris, Coleman: seperated at birth?




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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 04:25 AM
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1. All together now: "What plan?" n/t
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 04:42 AM
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2. Is Bush's women from Texas on the job yet?
Karen needs to get out and save the world.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 08:44 PM
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22. Mary has to lay low
these days. She may very well go down with the Rove/Plame affair.
:bounce:
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 05:00 AM
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3. I wonder. When I attended school board meetings, about every two-
three months, the board would complain about the state pensions and how much they "cost" the taxpayer.

When the Repubs finish destroying Social Security, and allow the corporations to dump their retirement plans, will they go after the civil servant retirement plans?
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 01:39 PM
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13. that's the plan here in california
arnold has made no bones about going after "state workers" and their "luxurious" pensions! :grr: he is pitting the people vs. the state workers.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 02:51 PM
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18. They want Social Security, pensions and state and federal pensions.
How can these people live with themselves, and further, why can't Americans see this?
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 07:22 AM
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4. " wouldn't take questions" and "avoiding debate"
looks like a typical Rove attack.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 07:35 AM
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5. hee hee
the writer snuck this in:

"Rove spoke for about 15 minutes at the online brokerage firm, answered a few written questions from employees, and then left without taking questions from reporters. He stuck solely to the Social Security message, not mentioning the bombings that left at least 50 dead in London. Nor did he address the pending investigation into whether Bush administration officials in 2003 illegally leaked the name of a CIA agent to reporters after the agent's husband, former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV, publicly criticized the Bush administration's arguments for going to war in Iraq."

Keep throwing them balls, people!
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 08:14 AM
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6. Maybe * is laying the groundwork to point to a shackled Rove
and say, "SS reform...it was all HIS idea!".

(sort of like your Sutherland in your Bodysnatchers pic)
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 09:15 AM
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7. It's a puzzle. Why send a tainted Rove to sell a tainted plan?
How could that be the best way to sell something to even a dem like Nelson?
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 09:31 AM
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9. Maybe they are counting on rethug voters...
to rally 'round the embattled Rove. Actually, they probably just wanted him out of DC.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 01:43 PM
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14. well, i don't think he was there for SS
most likely, he was there for a little 'arm twisting' of nelson regarding the future SC nominees.
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wallwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 02:12 PM
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15. I liked the Soft Cell version of that -- "Tainted Rove..."
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 09:26 AM
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8. Andy Card was in Maine a few weeks ago with the same line
He wasn't taking questions either but was forced to. :)
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 09:46 AM
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10. I would love to see the Democrats put up a Primary Challenge to Nelson
IMHO he is just as bad as Zell Miller. He cares only about his own well being just like all conservatives and has no empathy for the common man. We as a Party could do a lot better.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 10:30 AM
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11. Hasn't he been arrested yet?
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 12:07 PM
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12. Rove used the word "Knowingly" in an Omaha radio interview.
The interview is available on KFAB's web site, which can be found on this thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1914462
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 02:13 PM
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16. Rove just dropped Bush's polls farther Everytime they bring up
Social Security it plummets!!!
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CityDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 02:13 PM
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17. Better headline
Rove sent to Omaha federal prision for outing covert CIA operative. He will spend the next 5 years in the prision laundry.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 02:56 PM
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19. Bu*h's top political *orches-traitor* sells out Americans again. n/t
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 02:59 PM
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20. what lurks beneath this dog and pony show, is what
i want to know. this whole little road show just strikes me as too extreme and absurd, even for these guys. i keep thinking about the election day stop in ohio, that was not a campaign stop, but likely a stop to drop money, twist arms, make threats, or whatever these people do. maybe all campaign stops are a little of that, but you know what i mean. i think someday we will follow this trail of breadcrumbs and find some dead bodies or something.
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despairing optimist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 03:26 PM
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21. Where Rove's headed, he'll have all the social security he'll ever need
Meals, health care (of sorts), an hour of fresh air, arts and crafts, even religious study.
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