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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 12:57 PM
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Police Arrest Suspect In London Bombings
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Puzzler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 01:00 PM
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1. Hey...
... when will those unpatriotic British police stop treating this act of war as a crime? ;) They're almost going to have the case wrapped-up in a matter of weeks. How are other countries supposed to be bombed when this happens? ;)


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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 01:03 PM
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3. You think the Brits will offer this guy therapy?
Damn those pantywaists.....:sarcasm:
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 01:11 PM
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5. Following the logic of going to war in Afghanistan because of 9-11
If, as reported, they were truly British citizens committing a terrorist act on British soil, Britain must go to Security Council and ask permission to go to war against its own country.
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Puzzler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 01:14 PM
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6. Or...
... maybe, just maybe, treat it as a crime (albeit, as serious one) and go after the criminals!

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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 01:16 PM
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7. They're already dead
But there's bound to be more where they came from. We'll get 'em. Round 'em up. Smoke 'em out of their caves ... uh, townhouses, that is.

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pocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 01:23 PM
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10. flats
:)
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 01:29 PM
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11. " row houses" in Washington Post terminology
from article:

A bomb disposal unit of the British Army set off what officials described as a controlled explosion at one of the Leeds homes, apparently to destroy material that police suspected to be explosives. Police entered the unoccupied house in a search for explosives and other evidence, authorities said. As many as 600 people were evacuated from the neighborhood of row houses in the city 185 miles north of London.

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 01:02 PM
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2. Our ally, Pakistan.
So the white mercenary theory has been tossed?
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Puzzler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 01:05 PM
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4. except...
... if it turns out they're from Leeds, they could very well be 2nd generation UK citizens. Anyway, it seems that one of the police's first leads was as simple as one mother's son not coming home.

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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 01:17 PM
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8. Covered up more than likely.
Edited on Tue Jul-12-05 01:18 PM by FloridaPat
How do Pakistanis get high explosives, happen to be smart enough to get information that there is a military exercise on that particular day, that just happens to be the first day of the G8 conference - they, plant these military high explosive bombs that are set to go off by radio or timers, but are dumb enough to blow themselves up.


Oh yeah, they then warned Israel.
Sure.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 02:52 PM
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12. How they got the explosives is a good question
but it has always been likely these were 'military-grade' explosives (things like dynamite are just about as highly controlled in the UK as any explosive, however powerful). I haven't the faintest idea if there's a black market in them in the UK (they don't often turn up in crimes, so it can't be big, anyway), but there have been enough wars where explosives could go missing (Iraq being one where we know lots went from the unguarded arms dumps), as well as stock left over from places like Czechoslovakia, that it would mainly be a question of smuggling them in to the UK from wherever they originated.

There was no 'military exercise'; I suspect you're thinking of the company exercise run by Mr. Power (which is his regular job). Those kind of exercises are common in large companies. Yes, that was a coincidence. Just like the book that was due to launch on Thursday, about a terrorist bomb (I think in London) - they had to cancel the launch.

They may well have aimed for the G8 conference. As well as extra news impact, it may have meant police attention was more up at Gleneagles.

There was talk of bomb timers earlier; I certainly hope we get an explanation if that was a misdirection on purpose (remember, they arrested one man today; perhaps they wanted him to feel safe until they were ready to move), incompetence, wild speculation by someone ont in the know, or what.
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evolved Anarchopunk Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 01:20 PM
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9. in some other threads people responded
that this reads like a fall-guy setup and i couldn't agree more. Granted this whole investigation is flying along at a pace unthinkable here in the US (esp. for such a public investigation), but take into account the information that has been leaking over the past 24 hrs and ask yourself: "so wait... these guys had military grade explosives and perhaps training, but didn't think to take their wallets out of their pockets? wait.. and this all stipulates that they died accidentally?"

hard to swallow.

beer's not. im having a beer.. :beer:
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