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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 03:00 PM
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Which exit course should U.S. take?
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/12110106.htm

By RON HUTCHESON

Knight Ridder Newspapers

Here are the military options for Iraq under discussion within the Bush administration, in Congress and at think tanks:

Rapid withdrawal

Advocates of a prompt pullout say it would be the fastest way to stop the loss of American life and avoid a Vietnam War-style quagmire. It also would force Iraqis to take control of their destiny and silence talk that the United States has imperialist goals for Iraq.

Opponents of a rapid withdrawal say that the departure of U.S. troops would doom Iraq to chaos. snip

Iraq’s economy is in a shambles. Unemployment for young men is estimated at 40 percent in Sunni areas. Annual per capita income dropped from $137 in 2003 to $77 last year. Electricity remains sporadic. And only about 37 percent of Iraqi families are connected to a sewage network, down from 75 percent in the 1980s.

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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 03:10 PM
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1. FUBAR nt
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dubyaD40web Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 03:11 PM
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2. Methinks * will pick Iran.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:55 PM
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3. Dear lord, this Admin should all be thrown in jail...
... based solely on their incompetence and negligence. You *know* Jack McCoy would be charging 'em w/ reckless endangerment, as a starter.
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silverpatronus Donating Member (520 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 10:12 PM
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11. hehehe...
man, i wish he and abby carmichael were working this case. hang-em-high carmichael would have their balls for earrings.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 09:03 AM
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14. No way
She was a hard-core Texan in Bush's mold (hang 'em high!), so I expect she'd be one of their toadies.
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silverpatronus Donating Member (520 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 05:54 PM
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16. nah, i always thought the opposite.
she was a hardnose, but a STICKLER for the law, no matter who got caught with their hand in the cookie jar. the bigger the name, the harder she came down on them.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:34 PM
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4. Wow. *'s bid to give them freedom sure did them will, yes?
No.

Each day only proves that taking Saddam out of power posed a cost too high.

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Flammable Materials Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:35 PM
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5. Exit strategy? IMPEACHMENT. n/t
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:39 PM
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6. Not while there is oil in the ground and US losses are "acceptable".nt
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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:54 PM
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7. Impeach Bush and give it back to Saddam
and say sorry, our president lied to us.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:59 PM
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8. Please don't tell me we have to put back up them gaudy Saddam statues
Anything but that.

Don

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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 09:32 PM
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9. Well, maybe that's going too far.
I can't believe the damage we've caused that country. But when there's oil involved, we'll do anything we have to.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 10:09 PM
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10. "departure of U.S. troops would doom Iraq to chaos"
HELLO! ANYBODY HOME THERE?
What the fuck do you think is going on now?
:puke:
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 10:17 PM
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12. Choppers flying off the roof ...
of the Embassy!

Never mind what strategy anybody has for withdrawal.

Those crazy bastards... the other side, not OUR crazy bastards.... will never quit, and like N Viet, they aren't interested in giving us a graceful way out.
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wookie294 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 10:20 PM
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13. I say we cut-n-run immediately
Whenever I see people say withdrawal would be a "disaster," I always read this quote from a former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff....

“We've pulled out of several places without achieving our objectives, and every time we predicted the end of Western civilization, which it was not. We left Korea after not achieving anything we wanted to do, and it didn't hurt us very much. We left Vietnam -- took us ten years to come around to doing it -- but we didn't achieve what we wanted. Everyone said it would set back our foreign policy in East Asia for ten years. It set it back about two months. Our allies thought we were crazy to be in Vietnam.” – Admiral William Crowe, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the 1980s.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/_/id/6593163?pageid=rs.Politics&pageregion=single1&rnd=1117251574802&has-player=true&version=6.0.12.872
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Talismom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 09:32 AM
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15. Pay reparations for rebuilding, apologize for damage and get out!
That's all!

:rant: :patriot:

Just do it now!!!
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 06:54 PM
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18. war crimes
Don't forget to ship the appropriate people off to the Hague to stand trial.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 06:04 PM
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17. leave all together now
The idea of leaving a smaller force and gradually pulling troops out would be an incredible disaster. The troops are hunkered down, running scared and if you leave them with less...holy sh*t!

Pay reparations and leave now and leave all together. Every country's soldiers should go unless the Iraqis ask for someone to stay....not us.

And all the while that is going on, let the impeachment proceedings begin.

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