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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 06:09 PM
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NYT/AP: Reprimand of Guantanamo Chief Urged, Nixed
Reprimand of Guantanamo Chief Urged, Nixed
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: July 12, 2005
Filed at 6:52 p.m. ET


WASHINGTON (AP) -- A military investigation into FBI reports of prisoner abuse at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, recommended that the base's former commander be reprimanded, but a top general rejected the recommendation, according to a congressional aide familiar with the probe's findings.

Investigators recommended that Army Maj. Gen. Geoffrey Miller be reprimanded for failing to oversee the interrogation of a high-value detainee that was abusive, said the aide.

But Gen. Bantz J. Craddock, commander of U.S. Southern Command, instead referred the matter to the Army's inspector general, said the aide, who described the still-unreleased report on the condition of anonymity.

Craddock concluded that Miller did not violate any U.S. laws or policies, the report said, according to the aide.

The investigation also found that interrogators violated the Geneva Convention and Army regulations three times at the base, the aide said....


http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Guantanamo-Abuse-Investigation.html?
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 06:11 PM
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1. Another sterling investigation of and by the military
And once again, no action is deemed necessary. Promotions and raises all around!
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:56 AM
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2. Reprimand of Guantanamo Chief Urged, Nixed (Geoff Miller)
Wednesday July 13, 2005 12:16 AM


By LOLITA BALDOR and JOHN J. LUMPKIN

Associated Press Writers

WASHINGTON (AP) - A military investigation into FBI reports of prisoner abuse at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, recommended that the base's former commander be reprimanded, but a top general rejected the recommendation, according to a congressional aide familiar with the probe's findings.

Investigators recommended that Army Maj. Gen. Geoffrey Miller be reprimanded for failing to oversee the interrogation of a high-value detainee, which was found to have been abusive, said the aide.

But Gen. Bantz J. Craddock, commander of U.S. Southern Command, instead referred the matter to the Army's inspector general, said the aide said, who described the still unreleased report on the condition of anonymity.

Craddock concluded that Miller did not violate any U.S. laws or policies, the report said, according to the aide.

The investigation also found that interrogators violated the Geneva Convention and Army regulations three times at the base, the aide said.

more:http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5136805,00.html
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:56 AM
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3. Not mutually exclusive
Reversing the order of the excerpted comments...

    The investigation also found that interrogators violated the Geneva Convention and Army regulations three times at the base, the aide said.

    Craddock concluded that Miller did not violate any U.S. laws or policies, the report said, according to the aide.


Well, duh! As we all know, violating the Geneva Convention was authorized, as a policy, by Bush.

(And I'm sure they're relying on some special military exceptions to dance around the "US law" criteria.)
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:56 AM
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4. Reprimand of Guantanamo Chief Urged, Nixed
Jul 13, 2005

WASHINGTON - Military investigators wanted the former prison commander at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, reprimanded over the treatment of one terror suspect, but a top general rejected their call, according to a congressional aide.

Looking into FBI reports of abuse, the investigators found multiple instances at the prison, including the use of duct tape on at least one prisoner's face, a threat to kill another prisoner's family, and inappropriate touching by female interrogators, according to this aide, who was familiar with the findings.

But the Pentagon investigators decided interrogators' behavior did not reach the level of torture or inhumane treatment, said the aide, who discussed the findings on condition of anonymity because the Defense Department has not released them.

Investigators determined that interrogators violated the Geneva Conventions and Army regulations three times. It was unclear from the aide's description what those instances were.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050713/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/guantanamo_abuse_investigation;_ylt=A9FJqYg45NRC.zQBYh2s0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3b2NibDltBHNlYwM3MTY-


Reprimand? Heck, I bet Bu$h is polishing a new Medal of Freedom for this bastard.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:56 AM
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5. Punished! Naw, he was promoted

and he is the same Piece of Work (to use the preznits favorite
phrase) that created the Abu Ghraib torture chambers.

Read the Taguba report.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_prisoner_abuse#Taguba.27s_report

Oh, for his trouble, Gen Taguba was effectively sidelined.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:56 AM
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6. I just hope
Edited on Wed Jul-13-05 06:09 AM by DoYouEverWonder
Dante is building a new ring of hell for these guys.



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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:56 AM
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7. I know it's now politically incorrect to make Nazi comparisons

but this guy would have felt right at home.

Prisoners are still chained by both ankle and wrist to a ring
in the cell floor, they are unable to squat much less stand up,
and they are left this way for more than 24 hours at a time...
and are often covered in feces and urine.

If Saddam was seen doing this to American POWs, the US would be
frothing at the mouth to nuke 'em.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 10:21 AM
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13. The comparisons are valid n/t
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:56 AM
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8. If the horrors that have gone on there
did not reach the level of torture or inhumane treatment, then what in hell does?!!:grr:
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:56 AM
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9. They threw the Geneva convention in the trash
it doesnt apply to war criminals i.e. Bush admin ..
we are the bad guys...average murikan doesnt want to believe the US is the bad guy, but there it is..
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:56 AM
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10. This is the gang that supposedly answers to a 'higher power'
what they fail to mention is who that 'higher power' really is. Satan is a 'higher power' too.





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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 09:21 AM
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11. Congress has the responsibility
and obligation to oversee US military forces according to the Constitution of the US. This case should be sent to the Congress to effect disciplinary action. The power of the military is limited by power of the Congress. Letting the military have free rein without Congressional oversight is dangerous. Shouldn't we excersize our rights and demand our Congressmen take action?
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 09:32 AM
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12. Dictatorship relies heavilty
on the power of the military. Congressional oversight is missing with this corrupt administartion.
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