Santorum resolute on Boston rebuke, Insists liberalism set stage for abuse

[Rose Siding]

WASHINGTON -- Senator Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania, the third-ranking Republican in the Senate, refused yesterday to back off on his earlier statements connecting Boston's ''liberalism" with the Roman Catholic Church pedophile scandal, saying that the city's ''sexual license" and ''sexual freedom" nurtured an environment where sexual abuse would occur.
...
''I was just saying that there's an attitude that is very open to sexual freedom that is more predominant" in Boston, Santorum said yesterday. Reminded that the sexual abuse occurred across the country, Santorum said that ''at the time , there was an indication that there was more of a problem there" in Boston.

The senator's words sparked instant reaction from Massachusetts political leaders, who ridiculed Santorum's suggestion that priests were driven to abuse children by the city's liberal culture.

US Representative Barney Frank, a Newton Democrat, called Santorum ''a jerk" and pointed out that the senator tried to use the levers of the federal government to block the removal of Terri Schiavo's feeding tube, an act that Santorum likened to ''execution." An autopsy found that Schiavo's brain was half the normal size and that she could not see anything.

''This is one of those people who claims to have had eye contact with a blind woman," Frank said.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/07/13/santorum_resolute_on_boston_rebuke?mode=PF

[WCGreen]

1. Man is Sanitorium really that stupid....

Or that smart....

Playing to his base, there goes taxaccuesetts again....

It ain't gonna hurt him in his base that believes nothing on either coast can be saved.....

[Rose Siding]

4. No, but I always wonder where Rick sticks MA's lowst divorce rate stats

They sort of blow his threatened marriage argument out of the water.

http://www.divorcereform.org/94staterates.html

[VegasWolf]

49. Exactly! If this were remotely true, wouldn't San Francisco have problems

too? What a dumb ass religious fanatic.

[krkaufman]

6. Yeah, but his base may not be enough

I gotta believe that this sort of bile will not sit well with all Pennsylvannians -- or even with 51%.

[WCGreen]

19. I'm talking about his threat, as any sane man would see,

of him running for presidnet....

Now, outside of charles Nelson Riley, Barney Frank is one of the most visable openly gay man in the country...

Now he jumps out and says that Sanitorium is out of his mind, who is a farmer in Arkansas going to belief, Rick or Barney.....

on edit
The threat is a reference to Sanitorium's desire to be president...

[krkaufman]

21. Oh

I'm not worried about Santorum winning the Presidency. 'cause if he comes anywhere close, the Apocalypse has already begun.

(Pennsylvannia comment can be extrapolated to the rest of the country; even W was this nutty.)

[MichiganVote]

2. This guy DOES NOT know what the fuck he is talking about

when it comes to the sex abuse scandal in Boston or anywhere else. He should shut the fuck up.

[maddezmom]

3. He's absolutely nutz

[warrens]

5. Cardinal Law, the guy who allowed it to go on, is a fascist

So we know who is REALLY responsible for this. The right wing.

[MisterP]

56. Santorum O.D.'d on O.D. (Opus Dei), it seems

[Cha]

7. I guess santorum("latin for asshole")

disregards all the repuke perverts that are ALWAYS getting outted.

999 times out of a thousand when some elected or otherwise official gets busted ..it's a repuke.

Does barnyardrick have any conclusions on those statistics?

[librechik]

37. I thought it was Latin for "room where doggy sex is performed"

actually, I think it means "clean and holy place."

How ironic.

[donco6]

41. That would be "sanctorum"

just my latin coming back - AAAHH!

[Connie_Corleone]

8. Santorum makes Bush look sane. Good Gawd!

The man is crazy!

[leftofcool]

9. Idiots are running the country..............eom

[DeepModem Mom]

10. What have we come to when this man can represent Pennsylvania...

in the United States Senate? We are governed by crooks, liars and crazy people. This is not what the Founders had in mind.

[DFWJock]

11. This is the same guy

who took a dead fetus home to show his kids?

[maddezmom]

12. wha?

:scared:

[patcox2]

14. He did, and has a picture of the fetus on his desk. Gabriel.

His wife had a pregnancy a few years ago, the doctors discovered the fetus was deformed and couldn't possibly live, it spontaneously aborted at about 5 or 6 months. They refused to abort it, the fetus was "born," breathed a little, and died immediately. They named it, then took the dead fetus home so his two other kids who were about 5 and 8 at the time could hold it and get to know their brother. he has a picture of it on his desk in the Senate. He considers it his third child.

His wife writes letters to it every day (addressed to heaven, of course).

[iconoclastic cat]

26. They are fucking GHOULS!

[Betty]

13. The asshole can't distinguish between consensual sex

and rape. No surprise there, anything other than man/woman missionary position is no doubt perversion to him.

[MissB]

32. Exactly.

What a freak he is.

[placton]

15. Let's Follow the Reasoning:

1. Boston is liberal.
2. Catholic Church is extremely conservative: supports assholes like Santorum, threatened Galileo for his science that earth revolves around the sun, and on and on
3. Catholic priests are more closely connected to conservative institution (the Church) than area where they live
4. Catholic priests are indoctrinated from birth about conservative views of Church, and join its priesthood

Santorum's view: liberalism is so strong in its evil that it is able to turn these conservative life view priests into liberal child molestors.

It boggles the mind.

[bemildred]

16. Boston? Boston is a cesspool of libertinage?

Bwaaaahaaahaaahaaa. Boston? Bwaaaahaaahaaahaaa.
:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[maxrandb]

38. Boston?? Those Damn Liberals. If They Hadn't Had Their Tea Party

We'd all have been better off.

Jeebus. That's why I say, no matter who in the hell they are. No matter how "moderate" people may think they are. There should be NO REPUKE SENATORS IN ANY BLUE STATES. Santorum, Spectre, Snowe, Chaffe, Collins, etc., The whole lot of them have to go.

I suggest that old "Ricky boy" take a visit to some "red-state" areas of morality and virtue, like Orange Blosson Trail in Orlando, FL; Biloxi, MS; Euclid and 22ND in Cleveland, OH, and see what real decadence is all about.

This is the same kind of asshole that blames 9/11 and "effing" hurricanes on "godless liberal Amurika". Guess God must be pretty fucking fed up with Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Texas right now.

Wake-up Pennsylvania!!! Give this boy his "walking papers" already.

[donco6]

44. I know! I had to shake my head on that one.

Boston? I've been all over the country, and that city didn't even pop on my radar as a libertine city.

[geckosfeet]

17. how do right hand threaded wingnuts like this get elected ??

Are people really that stupid ?

His opponents in the next election cycle better replay his trash talk over and over in context of its message of hate, ignorance and division.

It may be mudslinging but its the truth and the people deserve to know what this guy said.

[maxrandb]

40. Unfortunately, the Right Wing Noise Machine

has done such a good job turning "liberal" into a 4-letter-word, I'm surprised we're not all in GITMO right now.

Hell, according to these "ass-pickles", liberals are responsible for everything from the Lindberg kidnapping, to the Kennedy assassination.

I'm shocked we all don't have to wear bright yellow "L's" on our lapels.

He is one sick-fuck, and he is also a United States Senator????

[msongs]

18. maybe it is the Catholic RELIGION that is the cause of it....

cuz if the problem is catholic priests who are practicing and promoting the catholic religion under the direction of a catholic pope in catholic churches, blaming outside forces is kind of a distraction. that is at least as likely a cause as "liberalism" in the society outside the closed confines of a religious orderof any persuasion.

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm

[geckosfeet]

34. Bottom line,, these are priests making decisions to have a sexual

interaction with children,, often abusing their authority in order to cow the children into submission.

Is this a social fault?

Yes insanetorums rant about liberal Boston is clearly a diversion but nowadays demonizing liberals is in vogue. Blame them for everything. Tar and feather the liberal dogs.

Liberals, progressives, whatever you want to call yourself,,, stand up to these smear tactics. There is no way out of it. You need to get mad and learn when to duck and when to shoot back.

Just be smart about it and remember the long view.

[DBoon]

20. This is an improvement

At least Clinton didn't get blamed this time

[Lochloosa]

22. Barney...your killing me...

''This is one of those people who claims to have had eye contact with a blind woman," Frank said.


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Zenlitened]

23. Wow. Abject stupidity plus phony moralizing. That's a powerful thing.

Disgusting, baffling, but powerful. Add his history of absolutely shocking hypocrisy, and you have to wonder whether there's any hope for someone like that.

The answer is flat-out "no." He's a perfect example of why "reaching across the aisle" or "appealing to red voters" is just about utterly pointless.

It takes a family? It takes a family to have a loved one committed to an insane asylum. Let's hope there's someone out there who cares enough to get him the help he so clearly needs.

The man is a danger, probably to himself but assuredly to our country, so longs as he holds such a powerful position in our government.

:scared:

[Kathy in Cambridge]

24. Everyone finds it easy to bash Boston and Massachusetts

state with the lowest divorce rate? Massachusetts

state with the lowest abortion rate? Massachusetts

state with the smallest number of teenage pregnancies? Massachusetts

Yeah, we're real moral paraiahs up here. :eyes:

[Gormy Cuss]

25. yeah, but it's easier to bash the South

:P

Santorum really is a piece of work. He claims to be Catholic but sees the problem of pedophiles within the formidable church in Boston as caused by the secular culture around it. Uh-huh.

I wish he would just concentrate on areas where he has expertise, like bilking school districts.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

30. I never bash the South. I only defend the North.

:-)

I'm about to call my Mass. legislators and demand they extract an apology from Sanctrectum.

[Zenlitened]

46. Paging Mitt Romney, Governor-In-Absentia of Massachusetts...

... care to comment on this?

You've been such an eloquent representative of our state in the past. I'm sure you can field this one with grace, tact, and not a hint of carpet-bagging, fundie wingnut-fellating bravado.

:sarcasm:

Republicans. They hate us for our freedom. They hate us for our quality of life.

But most of all, they hate us for their own sick behaviors and mindsets that, unable to control within themselves, they attempt to project onto us.

[KarenInMA]

51. I wrote to him, posted it in the MA forum:

Dear Governor Romney:

While you may have checked out of Massachusetts for other opportunities, you are still, technically, our governor. As such, I find it imperative that you demand a formal apology from PA Senator Rick Santorum.

His comments that our "culture of Liberalism" fostered the Catholic molestation scandal is cruel and untrue. He is smearing the people of this state, and making light of the hundreds of children who were brutalized by these thugs, for political gain.

The people of Massachusetts will not stand for this, and expect you to respond in kind.

[Zenlitened]

52. Awesome!

:yourock:

[MattBaggins]

54. Persona Non Grata

Perhaps? Just a suggestion.

[MissB]

33. Damn it, you people are just morally corrupt liberals, aren't you?

:rofl:

I'm envious of your statistics. Really. :applause:

[iconoclastic cat]

27. See this, Durbin? And what you said was actually right on!

Stop apologizing for telling the truth about Republicans!

[progressivebydesign]

28. Umm.. I think Santorum should look to the Vatican if he's placing blame.

I mean, Boston? Boston? Since when are THEY the center of Catholic policies? What a scary, stupid, man.

[The_Casual_Observer]

29. Santorum needs to be placed in a sanatorium

For the protection of himself and the rest of the world. He is one dangerous sick bastard.

[renaissanceguy]

31. I'll bet he never gets any.

Look at him, he's a slimeball. Who'd touch him with a ten foot pole?

http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues.14744291

[ernstbass]

35. WTF?

This guy gets crazier by the minute!! Please tell me he won't be re elected!!

[Kathy in Cambridge]

36. Check out this EXCELLENT Boston.com post:

http://boards.boston.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?msg=784.48&nav=messages&webtag=bc-news

Hey GODALMIGHTY! How you been? What are you doing here on this message board? Don't you have to watch over humanity, control the weather, and strike down the sinners and heathens? I guess Omnipotence has it's advantages, eh?

Anywhoo.....I think you have a point that "people go where its safe(,) its instinct"....I guess that's true. Which explains why the racists and rednecks tend to flock to certain parts of the country, and of course the strip clubs and divorce rates tend to be more numerous in places like Texas then good old "Liberal" Massachusetts. (When did Massachusetts become so Liberal anyway? When was the last time any "Liberal" referendum vote actually passed here? I know we allow Gays to marry now because the courts decided it was in violation of our State Constitution to do so, but a similar ruling also took place in Nebraska when a Republican judge ruled that a anti gay marriage law was also in violation of their states Constitution, and yet I never hear people refer to "Liberal" Nebraska. I digress) My point is maybe it has to a little more with the concentration of Catholic churches in the Northeast then them nasty Liberals at Harvard.

I guess it makes sense though if you think like Santorum does. After all, if a woman with a liquified brain just needs speech therapy, or invading a country whose Secular leader, while crazy, would have nothing to do with crazy Islamic radicals, I guess I can see how a leap and logic might make you conclude that Sexual abuse is caused by Liberals. Everyone just nees to learn how to think like a wingnut

[redqueen]

39. This disgusting piece of trash has to go.

How can republicans support "Man on Dog" anyway?

Sick bastard. I just called and demanded that sorry excuse for a Senator apologize.

[chemenger]

42. If Rick Santorum would watch "The Name of the Rose"

he would see that prests boinking little boys was around long before Boston was.

[daleo]

43. Good old conservative Catholic priests.

Being driven mad with lust by New England's permissive culture. Could Santorum be any stupider if he tried? Is he in a contest with the spirit of Dan Quayle? Actually, these days Quayle's nonsense seems pretty harmless.

[nashville_brook]

45. all i have to say is:

also see
http://johnsoncity.blogspot.com/2005/06/we-arent-in-kansas-anymore-sex-and.html
We aren't in Kansas anymore: SEX and FASCISM in an UNCONSCIOUS AMERICA

GOPedophiles

Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.

Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.

Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.

Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.

Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.

Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.

Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.


Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.

Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.

Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.

Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.

Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.

Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.

Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.

Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.

Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.

Republican governor Arnold Schwarzenegger allegedly had sex with a 16 year old girl when he was 28.

Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.

Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.

Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.

Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.

Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.

Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.

Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.

Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.

Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.

Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.

Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.

Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).

Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15-year old girl.

Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.

Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.

Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.

Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.

Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.

Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.

Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.

Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.

Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.

Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.

Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.

Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.

Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was charged with rape for allegedly paying a 15-year old girl for sex. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.

[Zorra]

47. Phony fundamentalist blowhards like Santorum ALWAYS have skeletons

in their closet. Hypocrites always yell the loudest.

Huge skeletons. I hope someone finds Santorum's.

Guaranteed to be a doozy.

[progressoid]

48. What a dipshit. He makes my head feel like its gonna 'splode.

[wookie294]

50. STOP REPUBLICAN PEDOPHILIA

See full list of Republican pedophiles at this link....

http://www.armchairsubversive.com

* Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.

* Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.

* Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.

* Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.

* Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.

* Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.

* Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.

* Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.

* Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.

* Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.

* Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was charged with molesting his 9-year old step-daughter after including her in an anti-Gore television commercial.

* Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

* Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

* Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.

* Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.

* Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.

* Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.

* Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.

* Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.

[Orion The Hunter]

53. RE: Hey Santorum...

...its good to see you have time to speak about this issue while you are busily ducking out of paying for your children's tuition LEGALLY.

This asshat will not be removed from office soon enough....

[devinsgram]

55. Being from PA, I have to hang my head in shame.

But I would expect no less from this hypocrite. All he is doing is giving the church permission to carry on as before.