Republicans offer concession on Patriot Act (10 years)

[sabra]

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Republicans offer concession on Patriot Act
Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:14 PM ET


By Alan Elsner

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Republicans in the U.S. House of Representatives on Wednesday offered a compromise on the USA Patriot Act, proposing that two of the most controversial provisions in the terrorism-fighting law should be authorized for 10 years rather than being made permanent.

More than a dozen provisions of the 2001 law, hastily enacted in response to the Sept. 11 attacks on New York and Washington, are due to expire at the end of this year unless renewed by Congress. President Bush has repeatedly called on lawmakers to make the entire law permanent.

The act allowed expanded surveillance of terror suspects and gave the government the ability to go to a secret court to seize the personal records of suspects from bookstores, libraries, businesses, hospitals and other organizations -- the so-called "library clause."

House Judiciary Committee chairman Rep. James Sensenbrenner introduced a bill to make the law permanent. He said last week's bomb attacks in London made it even more urgent to reauthorize the legislation.

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[merwin]

1. The frickin' patriot act is part of the problem, not the solution.

[tk2kewl]

2. I call for a temporary 10 year moratorium on Republicans.

If they learn how to play by the rules, not lie, and not break the law we can hold hearings to reinstate them sooner.

[Tux]

6. I agree

Until Republicans understand that this isn't Nazi Germany, they have to sit at the kid's table while the adults fix some problems.

[aquart]

3. No. Sunset the piece of trash.

Everyone who voted for this garbage should do time. I'm including the Democrats.

[MGKrebs]

4. A classic Repub 'compromise'.

They get what they want, and their opponents get what the Repubs want.

Win win!

[yorkiemommie1]

5. Nope!

n/t

[Initech]

7. I wish they'd just let it expire

But that wont happen, sadly. It's not working.

[Frederik]

8. The "patriot" act wouldn't have

prevented the London bombing. But what a surprise that this tragedy is being used by the Repugs to argue for making it permanent.

[JusticeForAll]

19. The Patriot Act surely DIDN'T prevent the London Bombing

sorry I just needed to clarify that. The repubs stink...why do they hate our freedoms?

[shance]

9. "Last week's bomb attacks in London made it even more urgent"

How convenient is this statement?

Please explain to me how the ability to violate and scare every American citizen by having the power to stalk and snoop and violate one's dignity by having carte blanche access to enter ones house without any of us ever knowing is necessary and "urgent"?

Urgent for whom?

The Patriot Act is in its entirety illegal and our leaders need to confront this fact. It violates the Bill of Rights and the Constitution and it opens us up for a police state, and it doesnt do anything to fight or counteract terrorism.

[Kelvin Mace]

10. No!

Not ten years, ten months or ten minutes.

[DemsUnited]

11. Love how the Iraquis are expected to live with suicide bombers

in order to earn their "freedom".

But Americans are expected to give up their freedom in order to avoid suicide bombers.

[UpInArms]

12. compromise for the pukes:

EAT SH**

[Solly Mack]

love the way people violate civil rights and call that compromise

[AlCzervik]

13. thats is no compromise at all

[The Stranger]

14. In 10 years the Republicans will have everyone in camps.

[Zorra]

15. Republicans should move to China! Their "Patriot Act is just the kind of

liberty restricting, police state crap that they love so much.

Offer rejected

[seeminer21]

16. Watch.....

10 years from now they're going to be trying to convince us of a need to make it permanent. You'll see.

[redqueen]

17. Another expiration date? Like the one they're trying to avoid right now?

No thanks.

[maxrandb]

18. Why Does This Remind Me of that Scene in The Godfather?

Where Tessio (Abe Vigoda) ask Michale Corleone to take the hand-cuffs off so he and Clemenza could take care of the rival gang infiltrating their territory.

Tessio says, "with all due respect Godfather, with you gone, Clemenza and I will fall under Bardzini's thumb. There won't be one place left in Brooklyn where I can hang my hat".

There won't be any freedoms left in this country if we give the Republicans 10 years to steal them away.

[norml]

20. House Panel OKs Patriot Act Provisions

House Panel OKs Patriot Act Provisions

Wednesday July 13, 2005 9:46 PM


By KATHERINE SHRADER

Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - The Republican-led House Intelligence Committee approved Democratic provisions Wednesday that would place modest controls over the ways the FBI can monitor terror suspects under the Patriot Act.

Committee chairman Peter Hoekstra, R-Mich., opened the session to the public in a limited way by allowing one news organization - The Associated Press - to attend, in a move that aides said was unprecedented.

Three other amendments that Democrats proposed failed, including one that would have blocked investigators from getting records from libraries or book stores.

The panel approved a measure that would let one provision expire in 2010, unless extended by Congress, that allows the FBI to wiretap ``lone wolf'' terrorists who may be operating on their own, without control from a foreign agent or power.


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