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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 07:10 AM
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Iran cleric says UK could have bombed own capital
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Iran cleric says UK could have bombed own capital
Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:55 AM GMT



TEHRAN (Reuters) - A leading Iranian cleric said on Friday the British government could have orchestrated last week's bombings in London to stir up flagging enthusiasm for British military involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan .

Four British-born Muslims blew themselves up in separate attacks on three underground trains and a bus during the morning rush hour, killing 54 and injuring hundreds.

Ayatollah Ahmad Jannati, who heads Iran's top legislative watchdog the Guardian Council, said the British had themselves to blame.


"One possible set of culprits is al-Qaeda. But al Qaeda is Bush and Blair. Who launched al Qaeda? You must be tried, you who are the mothers of al Qaeda," he told worshippers at Friday prayers in Tehran, blaming British Prime Minister Tony Blair and U.S. President George W. Bush for the growth of Islamic militancy.


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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 07:14 AM
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1. No. Jannati said that al-Qaeda was created by the US and UK - that
they are reaping the whirlwind, in other words. That is not entirely inaccurate.
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 06:36 PM
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12. Wrong only as far as UK. WE created the Mujahadin, which made al-quada


It was created thru CIA by Ray-gun to fight the Russians and create a "Viet Nam" for them. It succeeded at that but then morphed into al-quaida which turned on us. Because, I believe, of our troops stationed in Muslim lands. That has always been Bin Ladin's big bitch about US.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 07:14 AM
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2. could have, but hardly would have bothered considering that it
made Blair look weaker, not stronger.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 07:23 AM
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3. There was a time when I would have dismissed such a claim out of hand!
Now I will at least believe such a thing is within the realm of possibility. Not probable mind you, just possible.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 07:26 AM
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4. Dont blame you
I suspect every words poping out of chimp and poddle. Just dont know what is fantasy and what is facts no more.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 07:35 AM
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5. Me too...
with this particular group, NOTHING is out of the question!
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 10:03 AM
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7. Bush/Cheney/Rove have just murdered at least 100,000 men, women,
Edited on Fri Jul-15-05 10:23 AM by dArKeR
and children in Iraq. ?30,000 men, women, and children in Afghanistan. Been involved in drug dealing in the USA for decades. There is so much proof that the FBI knew about 9/11... Built the Nazi machine which murdered American/UK soldiers... Created Al Qaeda...What make you think a few more murders matter?

PS. The amount of amputates, blind... are in the hundreds of thousands.

Trading with the Enemy Act
http://www.tarpley.net/bush2.htm

In the late 80s, Pakistan's then head of state, Benazir Bhutto, told the first President George Bush, you are creating a Frankenstein. But the warnings never quite filtered down to the cops and G-men on the streets of New York.
http://bulletin.ninemsn.com.au/bulletin/EdDesk.nsf/All/3043C0B91612E654CA256AD2000148E5
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 09:59 AM
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6. Even the BBC interviewed an x-british agent saying it was "war games"
Edited on Fri Jul-15-05 10:04 AM by goforit
by the British intelligence.

Not that I have never been crazy about Iran, but this guy may
have heard the same interview.

Another suspicious fact is how did the Israelies know that
this was going to happen the day before?

I don't know what the Britts are thinking, but, I would be demanding for an inquiry right now.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 10:19 AM
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9. I'm thinking that you are quoting rumours that have no base as if true
Israelis knew the day before? Source, please?

I also think it's incredibly unlikely that an Iranian cleric is basing his sermons on interviews on BBC radio.

Who was the ex-British agent? Do you have any details of what he said?
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 10:07 AM
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8. It is always a possibility.
And should never be desmissed out of hand.
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JackieO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 06:03 PM
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10. Iran cleric says UK could have bombed own capital
TEHRAN, July 15 (Reuters) - A leading Iranian cleric said on Friday the British government could have orchestrated last week's bombings in London to stir up flagging enthusiasm for British military involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan.

..."One possible set of culprits is al-Qaeda. But al Qaeda is Bush and Blair. Who launched al Qaeda? You must be tried, you who are the mothers of al Qaeda," he told worshippers at Friday prayers in Tehran, blaming British Prime Minister Tony Blair and U.S. President George W. Bush for the growth of Islamic militancy.

"The other likelihood is that the British regime may have carried out the attack itself ... because it benefits most... They want to justify their presence in Iraq and Afghanistan," he added.

"They tell people 'if we don't fight terrorism, this will happen to you,'" the cleric continued.


http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/PAI538688.htm
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 06:03 PM
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11. Im sure hes a real trustworthy guy...
:sarcasm:
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 06:45 PM
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13. Suuuuurrrrre. He's obviously got no ax to grind.
Anything is possible, including that the entire world is a figment of some extraterrestrial's dream, and we're all just bit players in that dream.

The first precept of critical thinking is healthy skepticism. The second is to demand unbiased information, and to evaluate it without prejudice. The third is to be on guard against the seduction of believing something because you want it to be true.

Come on, even giving the time of day to a sputtering Iranian fundie makes us just.look.bad.

Peace.
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drduffy Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 08:05 PM
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14. oh hell,
the US has done these sorts of things before. Why would one more time surprise anybody? Precedent, precedent. The incredulity of many never ceases to amaze me.
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