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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 12:43 PM
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Sen. Clinton Raises $6M in Past 3 Months
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-5143740,00.html

Sen. Clinton Raises $6M in Past 3 Months

WASHINGTON (AP) - In a Senate race that could have implications for the 2008 presidential contest, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton raised more than $6 million between April and June.

Campaign reports filed by Senate candidates Friday with the Federal Election Commission showed the former first lady, a New York Democrat, had $12.6 million cash on hand at the end of last month, even though she has no clear opponent yet.

Manhattan lawyer Edward Cox, a son-in-law of former President Nixon, has begun preparations to challenge Clinton and Republican party officials also are courting Westchester County District Attorney Jeanine Pirro as a possible challenger.

Patti Solis Doyle, executive director of Friends of Hillary, said she expects ``very well-funded opposition next year.''

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bspence Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 12:48 PM
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1. She won't get a penny from me with this new anti-video game crap n/t
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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 12:50 PM
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3. Word. n/t
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bspence Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 12:51 PM
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4. ...and while I'm at it
Anyone who goes against video games because they think it's a safe target should be careful. Video games aren't the 'safe' hot button topic they used to be. Maybe 10-15 years ago it'd be ok, but those kids who bought those games (like myself) are still playing them as adults. Voting adults.

Switch from video games to drunk driving or something else that's completely non-controversial and works well with the polls. This is why I hate Hillary.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 12:55 PM
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6. Plenty of parents are concerned about video games
I think it still has major relevance. BTW, if you "hate" Hillary, why are you giving her political advice?
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:14 PM
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9. What relevance?
The parents "concerned" about it are lazy and should do a better job monitoring what their kids play and understand what those clearly marked ratings on games mean.

A game with an "M" rating clearly means it's not for kids.

Hillary should actually focus on something useful like perhaps DSM, or the war which is killing thousands.
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iwantmycountryback Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 02:44 PM
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16. Maybe you should pay attention to some of the other things she's doing
Like calling for Karl Rove to be fired, but obviously that has no affect on the Hillary-Haters.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 12:57 PM
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7. She won't need it
She's obviously not having any trouble raising money.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:32 PM
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12. It won't matter if she isolates her base.
I'd love to see her succeed, but I think she's got to play it more like Bush, where he finds a way to drum up his corporate sponsors and also plays to to the trailer court repubs.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:44 PM
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13. Okay, someone explain to me EXACTLY what's up with this?
I know she's investigating the "Hot Coffee" mod. I hear people reacting as though she wants to ban this mod. From what I've seen, she just wants a parental advisory sticker on it, or some such web equivalent, since apparently she thinks that parents might want to know that their ten year olds would be having sex with hookers and then killing them in a video game.

So what I don't understand is: first, does the mod add the scenes to the game, or just bypass some block that is already there? Second, what exactly does she want to do to Hot Coffee? And third, is Ann Coulter one of the hookers in the game, cause that might make a difference to me on a personal level.

My own impression is that she's trying to close a loophole which requires parental notification stickers on games but allows easy bypasses of those stickers through Internet downloads. That doesn't terrify me. Not as much as what the Repubs will do if we keep splitting the Dem party, anyway.
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Lilli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 02:09 PM
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14. I dont have a problem with an advisory sticker at all and
LMAO at the Coulter comment :D
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Sin Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 03:20 PM
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17. This is what they call.
Edited on Fri Jul-15-05 03:24 PM by Sin
a 3rd party program meaning a 3rd party was involved in making it not related with the company.
Now as for the content in question no you can not unlock this stuff with out having the mod it will not show up in the normal course of game play.
There are also conflicting reports when I first heard about this mod off of g4 and other game sites it was said that it was a cut program it would have been part of the game they just didn't put it in yet didn't get rid of all the traces of it allowing it to be unlocked by the formention 3rd party program. But not Rockstar is saying that they had nothing to do with it all hackers fault.
The only thing it mods is the options you can with in game girl Friends theres about 6 girls you can date now this mod allows you to have sex with them in a graphical manner.
as for warning labels on mods thats going to be impossible because mods are free for the most part thoe if the group of people doing really good mods ask for money for one after a few good showings they will usually get it (counter strike for half life is a prime example of people getting hired by the company that makes the games if there mods are good this is one of the best ways for you to break into the vid game industry is to do good mods. )
mods are distributed buy every gamer on the web nearly map packs new skins for chars different forms of game play.
Company's look the other way on mods because it adds content quickly to there game for free and helps build a community of gamers around it. for pc games it has always been like that thats one of the reasons Pc is better then consoles.
Last but not least this mod is tame compared to the rest of the game you can already have sex with hookers just not see naked skin you can then shoot them get your money back and or just become a pimp through a mini game and hookers will pay you.
at one point you have to dress in a gimp suit in a porn shop and follow one of the girls back to her house to make her become your girl Friend because you need her security card for the place she works. You don't need a mod for this content

So basically no loop holes nothing, this has been going on for a good long time with Pc games plus this is a M rated game a kid should not have it. Installing this mod on your computer for this game would take longer then finding real hardcore porn on the web.

theres even more I could tell you it but hope this explains it for you:)

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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 11:03 PM
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24. Yes, thanks, explains it very well. So what is Hillary
going after, then? Is she trying to stop these mods from being distributed? If the game makers don't care, and the games are M, and you have to have the game for the mods to do anything, sounds like it's all covered.

I mean, I see what she's doing politically, and it's shrewd. She's trying to steal the middle from the Republicans. She's trying to prove that she's the moderate, and a concerned parent with values. It plays into her strengths: she was a good parent, she was involved in parenting issues before, etc.

But I don't get what she's trying to do with the mods, aside from the grandstanding. Is she trying to find out whether the game maker is behind the mod, too?
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Sin Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 04:56 AM
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30. what she is doing in my mind.
Is playing to the middle and the right of the middle by going after this just to make it look like shes doing something to save the children and basic grandstanding.
But thats not what she will accomplish with it all it will do is put more rallying cry forth from the right that the company controlled ratings on games aren't working, the self regulation that the government said that the industry had to do or they would step in and do it for them would be in acted.
You can see were it will go from there government over sight of games through rating boards you get like at the movies and since games now cost loads of development money to make like say the Gta in question cost about 500 million. Company's will start to play it really safe and try to make products that fall into line limiting the games for adults that want to play them. Example there is A/O rating for games but thats basically like an NC-17 rating for movies
M is like R you could only guess how many games will fall under A/O with movie ratings type board overseeing it personally ive never seen a A/O game .
Mod makers might be hit hard say forcing game company's to sue mod makers or they will get fined I'm guessing but there will always be ways around it, still thats a lot of young talent that could be crushed in the process.

I just see no good that could come of it thats why so many gamers are quite mad at it because they why they are promoting it makes it sound like thats all mods do make hardcore porn pop into your kids games.Kids really shouldn't have these games its all up to the parent at that point this being the 3rd release of the game ( once for ps2 "cant get the mod for it" then xbox "no mod for either"
now and now a year or so after the initial release the PC, the market share of kiddies that have it will have it for either of the consoles rather then the pc.
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ConfuZed Donating Member (856 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 03:22 PM
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18. You do understand downloading that game off the internet is illegal
If these people kids are downloading games,software,movies (porn?) they are very bad parents.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 10:53 PM
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22. Downloading the mods or the game?
Can you download the games legally, or can they only be sold at stores? I wasn't sure which you meant.
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 07:56 PM
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19. Not one cent.
Nor one vote, either.
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 09:51 PM
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20. Same old thing
There was a quote from Colonel Kurtz in Apolcalypse Now, which is what I think of every time a politician goes on about violence in entertainment:

"They train young men to drop fire on people. But their commanders won't let them write "Fuck" on their airplanes, because, it's obscene!"
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 04:44 AM
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29. I don't think she needs your pennies.......
Save 'em for the next exciting mindless video game.
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Tweed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 12:49 PM
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2. Wow, she is planning on spending alot for her Senate campaign
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 12:52 PM
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5. That's nothing compared to what was spent in 2000
on that race. She was actually outspent in that one.
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:09 PM
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8. Wow. $6M will buy a lot of Hot Coffee. :)
Sorry, just couldn't resist. :)
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:19 PM
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10. DLC Corporadollars?
Edited on Fri Jul-15-05 01:20 PM by gulfcoastliberal
I wouldn't be surprised.
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:21 PM
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11. I'm curious
How much of that money comes from grassroots organizations and the people and how much of that money is bribe money from corporations.

I certainly have not seen people falling over themselves trying to give her cash from here.

I don't know the answer to this, but I sure would like to see it.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 02:35 PM
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15. How much of that money is coming from Corporations?
n/t
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 10:46 PM
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21. 92% of Hillary's campaign money is individual contributions
I know this makes Hillary haters heads explode but she is a proven strong fund raiser with the rank and file Dems. Far stronger than any other mentioned candidate by multiples.

<http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.asp?CID=N00000019&cycle=2006>
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 11:31 PM
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26. Individual contribution are often derived from corporate donors.
That of course has been proven time and time again where we've seen employees of corporations donating high dollar amounts to candidates.

This isn't about "Hillary Haters", at least from my perspective Bill.

Its an across the board soft shoe dance in Washington, that not only promotes a one party system, it promotes and pressures all of our leaders to tow the corporate line.

It's has nothing to do with either party, and it has everything to do with Washington and the abuse of power and privelege.

If our leaders receive in higher volume their donations from corporate based donations, they will be, as we have seen from many of our Democratic leaders voting records, pressured to vote the corporate line, and leave constituents vulnerable and victimized.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 11:18 PM
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25. She didn't get it from the "little people"... n/t
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Dirk39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 10:56 PM
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23. This is the reward for the draft?
Edited on Fri Jul-15-05 10:58 PM by Dirk39
Hello from Germany,
I love the U.S., both Demopublicans and Repocrats. While Bill is playing gulf with that other drug-dealer, he worked with in Arkansa, Hillary is outdoing BushII in militarism, asking for 80,000 soldiers more within the next four years.
The next election in the U.S. will be about something like: "Let's kill 20 million brown people!"(Republicans) and "Yes, o.k., but let us kill them a bit more moderate". And the majority of DUers will defend the lesser evil again, again and again and again...
...cause, cause, cause it's Naders fault.
What a mess,
Dirk
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BrightKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 11:32 PM
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27. It smells like freeper droppings in here.
I don't agree with everything that she does but I do support her. This is not a primary race. I don't see the value in bashing her.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 12:40 AM
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28. Damn thats more then I can get in San Andreas
:evilgrin:
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