Congressman says bomb Mecca if US attacked

[varun]

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_18-7-2005_pg1_8

WASHINGTON: A Republican congressman said in a radio interview aired by a Florida station that if a multiple-city attack happened in the United States in the next 90 days, as predicted by an Israeli expert, and was found to be the work of extremist Muslims, then “we should take out their holy sites.” Congressman Thomas G Tancredo, Republican from Colorado, was being interviewed by AM 540 WFLA radio host Pat Campbell, who asked him what the response of the United States should be were terrorist attacks on US cities to take place and were attributable to extremist Muslims. The Congressman replied, “ ... then we could take out their holy sites.” Asked if that meant Mecca, Tancredo answered, “Yes.” khalid hasan

[daleo]

1. This guy should be in the looney bin

Just what the Earth needs, a holy war with nuclear armed states.

[dArKeR]

6. Not looney bin but prosecuted under the Patriot Act for

"spreading and aiding terrorism". And I believe an existing Federal law covering "Hate Crimes" is also applicable.

[indepat]

77. It's o.k. for Repukes to do what they like even if it should spread and

aid terrorism, out a CIA agent, et cetera, ad infinitum, ad nauseam.

[krkaufman]

78. Heh, who was the original author of that cartoon?

It was obviously a slam on the French for objecting to the Iraq invasion (the whole "smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud" b-s). I'd like to see some of the cartoonists current work... perhaps an self-portrait, eating crow.

[chunkylover55]

148. Prosecuting him for hate crimes speech? Sounds like you're advocating

limiting people's 1st amendment rights? Free speech doesn't just mean allowing speech you agree with.

[Name removed]

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[chunkylover55]

153. Freeper alert! LOL!!!!

Whatever.

[Moochy]

168. He blew his deep cover

Lol you never know what is gonna flush em out from their DEEP COVER operation do ya?

freeper thought process:
THATS IT MAN I CANT TAKES IT NO MORES!! I CAN NOT LET THIS POST GO UNANSWERED!!

[jonnyblitz]

169. LOL.. I KNOW I would do the same thing if I were in "deep cover"

over at the Free Republic. I don't think I could fake agreeing with them very well or very long before i would lose it and go completely off...

[Moochy]

170. Principled stand for nuking all non US territories

Well Not sure what was in his original post, (deleted one)
but I'm sure he took a strong principled stand for the long time position held by right wing wackos that anyone who dares to question U.S. authority should be nuked into a black glass parking lot.

We have the power, lets use it!! nuke all land not contained within the contiguous us states. It's reckoning time for Alaska and Hawaii, which are de facto commie strongholds!

[donheld]

154. So in the name of free speech

I can now use the "N" word without hesitation?

[chunkylover55]

155. As a matter of fact, yes. The point is that its not illegal.

It may be dispicable, but its not illegal. You may do so at some risk to your personal health, but either way the government can't prosecute you for "hate crime speech".

[beboplives]

61. Tancredo's Office

Should be flooded with calls, emails etc. demanding he apologize for such irreponsible comments. This is much more egregious than anything Sen. Durbin did. Tancredo's rubbish, if carried to fruition have the capacity to endanger our children and grandchildren's lives by embroiling them in a holy war with over a billion people.

How can such ignorance represent anyone or anything with more iq than a pet rock?

[HeeBGBz]

64. Who let Stupid out from under his rock?

That's got to be the most ignorant and dangerous idea ever.

[saigon68]

83. It appeals to the SHEEP though

AFTER ALL THEY NEED SOMEONE TO "kill"

[saskatoon]

119. I wonder

what our Glorious leader would have to say re one of his most ardent followers comment.

[Mojorabbit]

2. Whats with the

prediction of a multiple city attack in the US in ninety days? First I have heard of this....

[wli]

8. that one really scares me

I thought it was going to be a false flag operation to halt the indictments and/or trial.

[Mojorabbit]

18. Ok I googled israel ninety days attack

and came up with this from fox news.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,161962,00.html
Counterterrorism expert Juval Aviv spoke with FOX Fan Central about what Americans can do to protect themselves in case of a terror attack.

Do you believe another terrorist attack is likely on American soil?

I predict, based primarily on information that is floating in Europe and the Middle East, that an event is imminent and around the corner here in the United States. It could happen as soon as tomorrow, or it could happen in the next few months. Ninety days at the most.



Does anyone know anything about this Jual Aviv?
I know it is fox but things are getting hot for the administration and it would not suprise me if something was in the works.

[aquart]

19. You're buying FOX info?

When you KNOW mindless panic aids Bush? Tsk.

[wli]

22. not really, they say "terrorist", I say "false flag"

And far from mindless panic, it really means these maniacs need to be arrested, not just impeached/indicted/etc., or otherwise prosecuted as swiftly as possible.

[Mojorabbit]

23. I take it seriously

in that fox is their mouthpiece. I was asking if anyone knew anything about the security expert that was interviewed. The israelis have had a decent record on ferreting out this kind of info so I do not discount it just because it was on fox.
As I said in my previous post, I don't put anything past this administration and they are in very hot water right now.

[Mojorabbit]

24. I found a blurb on this fellow

Aviv is a former Israeli counterterrorism intelligence officer. He has 30 years experience in intelligence and security work, including time as a consultant for El Al. He also served as the lead investigator on the Pan American 103/Lockerbie terrorist bombing. Today, Aviv is the CEO of Interfor, Inc., an international company that specializes in corporate investigations and security.

[smoogatz]

52. There's no risk in making such predictions

If you're right, you look like a genius. If you're wrong, nobody remembers--and besides, you've erred on the side of cautious pessimism. There's been stuff "floating around" in Europe and the Middle East since U.S. troops were first based in Saudi Arabia for Gulf War I. That said, a multi-city attack in the US wouldn't surprise me--seems to me Bushco is utterly incapable of preventing any sort of soft-target attack in the US. Chertoff basically said it's up to the state and local governments to protect their own transportation infrastructure--DHS will handle air travel, but the rest is up to you guys. I read that as a preemptive strike in case of future attacks. If the NYC subway system or LA harbor or Disneyworld gets blown up, Bushco can say, "Hey, we told you--it ain't our job."

[Mojorabbit]

95. Well

I guess we will know one way or the other in 90 days. :)

[SeanQ]

79. Unfortunately I wouldn't be surprised if the PNAC

crew let something like that happen to try and bolster their boy *'s numbers. Not to mention the tragic fact that * is bankrupting our country without properly funding real homeland security (ports, borders ,etc.).

I was thinking the other day maybe a few prominent Dems should keep those shortcomings on the front burner. If a few are on record as regularly trying to remind (media/congress/wherever) that more work needs to be done to prevent future attacks, that there is no reason terrorists can't attack us here as well as "over there" (particularly now that their recruitment #'s are way up thanks to Iraq, as is their funding I'm sure) and that there are now more terrorist attacks monthly than before we invaded Iraq (before 9/11?), even discounting those occurring _inside_ Iraq. This is a JIK measure, so that if something horrible does happen, the Dems can get right in front of it, saying "If only the WH didn't ignore our warnings, our efforts to improve security" yada yada.

[Kool Kitty]

15. Yes, that makes two of us.

What the hell is Tancredo talking about here?

[AngryAmish]

57. I heard this guy on Art Bell

or whoever does his show nowadays (I have insomnia - I don't beleive it). Anyway, this guy wrote a book saying that there are between 12 and 60 nuclear weapons in the US already.

I don't beleive it.

However, this is an excellant way to sell books and should be considered as much.

The congressloon is actually referring to a mutually assurred destruction model against Islamists similar to what Isreal calls "The Sampson Option". (I know there was a book by that name many years ago and I am not an expert on Israeli nuclear policy. So if I am wrong please tell me). Any, Isreal has let it be known that if TelAviv gets nuked, the first nukes are heading to Mecca and Medinah and then the major population centers of the other countries and oil centers. No one doubts they would do it. That is why there has been no pan-Arab attack on Isreal since 73.

[malaise]

69. That is the serious issue here

forget the loony - more diversion coming.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

124. Oogaboogabooga. Won't happen. (nt)

[H5N1]

3. He is lucky that al-Qaida 'terror cells' in the US are pure fiction

Sass talk like that could get a boy all the trouble
he has coming.

[Miss Chybil]

91. Fiction? Don't kid yourself. There really are bad guys in the world

besides the Bush cabal. If you don't believe me, I think Osama bin Laden's own vows to attack us should give you a clue. There really is a war going on between extremists. We the people, unfortunately are caught in the middle.

[Sterling]

137. I don't spend much time worrying about Osama.

Why should I? Our gov obviously is aware of something we are not because they have spent about zip trying to catch him.

[Miss Chybil]

142. And you're confident in the judgement of this administration?

I'm worried about him. Do I sit around biting my nails about it all day? No. Do I have believe there are plans in the works to attack us? Yes. OBL hasn't failed yet to deliver on a threat.

[powwowdancer]

180. $3.50 of my .02 cents worth

Their are a coupla reasons why the evil Bush junta doesn't WANT to catch Osama. (And let's face it, they couldn't catch crabs in a cat house). First, It's like convincing the angry mob to go home and let Viktor Frankenstein catch the monster, i.e., it was bush the elder and his boss, ronnie ray-gun, that created osama, (and saddam for that matter), in the first place. Next of course is the fact that he can't scare you into his back pocket every time his poll numbers sag like granny clampett's bosom with his "boogie man" stories if we've all ready caught the boogie man and spanked his monkey. BUT the REAL copious pigeon dropping on the statue of the Virgin is the fact that our "allies" (or at least our "not enemies") in the global war on whatsis are playing tag-team harboring him, 'n' we can't afford to p*ss 'em off. Howzit go? "The enemy of my friend is my enemy; the friend of my enemy is my enemy; but the enemy of my enemy is going to rain terrorists on me and then hide with the enemies of his enemy, who'll be my friend... see? (My head hurts). Shit. Bombing Mecca is about the only thing we could do that could make things worse. Leave it to the obergruppenfuhrer... he could f*ck up a sack fulla re-bar!

:dem:
powwowdancer out

[Frederik]

182. Rather, the extremists have joined forces

in a war against us.

[WCGreen]

4. Strap 'em on boys, Arm I commin to Get YA

[saigon68]

37. "BRING EM ON" shouted the AWOL CHIMPANZEE

[lisby]

71. "Surrender Dorothy!" cried the Republican party

:rofl:


Lisby

[MisterP]

175. throw a bucket of water over him and be done with it!

[IndianaGreen]

5. Of course that also includes bombing the Dome of the Rock

and the Al-Aqsa mosque which are part of the Noble Sanctuary, the Al-Haram al-Sharif, in Jerusalem. They are the second holiest site of Islam!

Dropping JDAMS on the Noble Sanctuary, if our record in Iraq and Afghanistan holds true, will also mean killing all the Jews worshiping at the Western Wall.

The ignorance of these Bible-thumpers is astonishing!

[H5N1]

11. Somehow, I think he'd be proud as punch just taking out Mecca

[Oversea Visitor]

7. Who is the terrorist

Gee bomb Mecca, Holy sites. Brilliant way to recruit few billions enemies hey.

[lumpy]

105. Mecca, Saudi Arabia

I don't think the Saudis would appreciate that after all that Bush has done for them and visa versa.

[kestrel91316]

152. If Bush bombed Mecca .................

we would indeed have ONE BILLION JIHADISTS gunning for us.

[hippiepunk]

9. Yeah, let's create

MILLIONS of more terrorists by bombing Mecca! Sheesh, what an asshole.

[wli]

10. isn't bombing cultural heritage sites a war crime?

And those certainly qualify. This guy's a complete wacko.

[magellan]

12. Oh right

We bomb their holy sites and kill masses of innocent people, turning every moderate Muslim in the ME into a frothing anti-US terrorist...meanwhile the bastards who originally attacked us are in safe hiding (as usual) and laughing at how the macho US Right has played right into their hands once again.

I give up.

[Dhalgren]

48. Not just in the Middle East,

think of the millions in South East Asia. If the US were stupid enough for shit like this (and I am not sure we aren't), then several hundred million South East Asian Muslims would be radicalized, as well. Dumb as rotted feces...

[IA_Seth]

75. And don't forget...

There are plenty of Muslims here in the US.

[bluestateguy]

13. Tom Tancredo (R- Columbine High School)

n/t

[Theduckno2]

14. He is an unwitting terrorist collaborator.

I recently finished Gwynne Dyer's "Future Tense" and he makes the point that the terrorists, having only limited means, depend on the overreaction of those terrorized, to further the terrorist's cause. Heavy-handed responses to terrorism alienate the societies from which the terrorists arise and encourage sympathies and recruitment for the terrorists. The congressman's remarks were foolish and he should correct them and apologize for them.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

123. "un?" (nt)

[Theduckno2]

160. Yep, unwitting, I guessed right.

See norml's post #156, the congressman is the definition of a 'rebel without a clue'. He still needs to correct what he said and apologize too. :)

[Placebo]

16. This is exactly the kind of rhetoric the US can't afford right now.

He should be tried as a traitor and removed from office immediately.

There's a fine line between free speech and radical dangerous extremist pseudo-fascism. He crossed that line.

[still_one]

17. this is why everything this administration has touched has turned to

SH*T

[alarcojon]

20. In the Pakistani Press, no less

this fool has just upped al Qaeda membership by who knows how many.

[still_one]

21. Here is what would happen

1. We would immediately unite ALL Musilims against us, and rightfully so
2. The Americans in Iraq would be up against the whole country, not just the terrorists or the insurgents
3. Because we are destroying their holy sites, they would destroy our oil supplies. Watch the economy be destroyed. It would take decades to recover from such stupidity

[bluestateguy]

25. I don't even think the Israelis would want us to do something like that

They would really pay the price it there was a Holy war.

[still_one]

129. I think they are paying a price for what we are doing in Iraq

and most of all because the bush administration did not take over the negotiations from Clinton

[shanti]

26. the right wing freaks

KNOW that bombing mecca will "bring on armegeddon". the WANT this to happen! :grr:

[donheld]

27. And some of you thought all these people were from 'Bama

See all states have their share of idiots.

[Swamp Rat]

28. Tancredo=NAZI

Tancredo=NAZI
Tancredo=NAZI
Tancredo=NAZI

[Up2Late]

29. IDIOT!

This guy is gunning to be Moran #1 :banghead:

[Judi Lynn]

30. It's a given Tancredo is a gibbering idiot, a fool, and an ass####.

It would be interesting learning what possessed the show host to draw him into violent speculation about future nightmares to be visited upon Amuricans by yet more bloodthirsty, wild, uncontrollable, and heathen A-rabs.

Keeping this "enemy" hatred at the boiling point is crude, vile, and stupid. I don't get it. You'd think these bastards would wear themselves out threatening the world outside the U.S. around the clock.

Here's the genius who engineered this look into the mind of another great Republican statesman, Pat Campbell. His station boasts that you can hear the interview if you're motivated:



http://www.540wfla.com/patcampbell.html

Here's the interview:
http://www.540wfla.com/timages/page/media/Tancredo_comments_071405.mp3

[cosmicdot]

145. a Clear Channel station n/t

[Stand and Fight]

31. Outrageous....

Of course, this will be utterly ignored by the main stream media here in the United States because he is a Republican. They can say and do anything they please and nothing will come of it. This is disgusting.

[Endangered Specie]

32. Holy sites means alot more than just mecca...

:crazy:

Someone escaped from the funny farm.

[darkism]

33. Why do they hate us, again?

Seriously. I can't figure it out. :sarcasm:

[baldguy]

62. They hate us for our freedoms.

Especially our RELIGIOUS freedom. :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[katamaran]

34. Thaaaat's just beautiful

So instead of 10% of the world's Muslims mad at us, we increase it to 100%? Brilliant. Bloody brilliant.

Can't wait to run that one by my Muslim friend at work (Malaysian). She might just decide to pack up and move home to get away from this cesspit.

[Seabiscuit]

35. An if a priest molests his son we should take out Jerusalem?

No wonder they hate us. We keep showing our arse to the world (this time in the form of a U.S. Congressman)

[against all enemies]

38. Don't be silly. The Vatican.

[NuttyFluffers]

36. But, what if in response to that, they take out our holy sites?

Like the Alamo, Disney World, Wall Street, and Branson Missouri, etc?

:crazy:

Well, at least I know my nation is in good hands with conservatives and republicans. They are much better on foreign policy than liberals and democrats I've heard. :sarcasm:

[powwowdancer]

181. OH GOD NOOOO!!!!!

Not GRACELAND?!?!?

the horror... the horror...

:dem:
powwowdancer out

[TomClash]

39. Their response to such an attack

would be a nuclear attack on the United States.

Remeber Khalid Sheik Mohammed said AQ had nuclear weapons.

However, BFEE would rather make more money with conventional attacks driving up oil prices and the need for ever more conventional weapons. Their partners in crime love those holy sites. So this will never happen.

[Disturbed]

40. More proof that RWingers are just plain..

stupid. If they were halfway intelligent they would go see this idiot, put him in a straigthjacket and cart him off to an asylum.

[MisterP]

112. why? more terror attacks in the U.S. = more approval and war.

the more they fail, in fact, the higher their approval ratings! besides, it's not like anything important will get attacked, just cities with people, not big agro and the wealthy's play farms

[CJCRANE]

41. Have you noticed

that no legitimate politician from a muslim country has ever said that they're going to bomb New York or whatever in retaliation?

The muslim politicians always say that they will defend themselves but I've never seen a muslim politician threaten to attack America.

[rodeodance]

43. His idiotic comments puts our troops in danger more than they are already.

[Sterling]

138. They don't because they can't, yet.

Wait til they can. They will sound like N Korea.

[Robeson]

42. Sophomoric immaturity. Its amazing that vile pieces of shit like this...

...are actually representing U.S. citizen's interest in congress.

When a system falls to the level ours has, which creates actual politicians who have so little an understanding of the World, then its time for a Constitutional Convention to change our system, because clearly, the current one is not functioning properly.

The inmates are now running the asylum.

[Tsiyu]

44. Right

another Repuke talking out of his ass.

More "bring it on" bullshit. Just what we need right now - a fool to fan the flames. Are Repukes devoid of ANY sense? Do they hate our troops so badly they would say this shit, knowing it puts them even more at risk?

Tancredo needs to shut his extremist fucking mouth. Anyone got any duct tape handy in Colorado?

[henslee]

45. Is this verified? Is there a sound clip?

[henslee]

46. here is a link to Tancredo clip -- warning, seems like a nervous, hawkish,

site... (just scroll down page, look for article and audio link)

http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/INTELALERT.htm

[LizW]

47. What a fool.

Who is responsible for giving this guy his medication? They're falling down on the job.

Just a week or so ago this suggestion was something you'd read on the worst fascist wing-nut message board. Now, thanks to this lunatic, it's out there from a United Sates Congressman!

Why will these raving, crusading madmen not SHUT UP!

[MadisonProgressive]

49. So punish a billion muslims

for the act of a few false muslims?

That would go over real well. What a total ass. He should be recalled immediately!

[converted_democrat]

50. What an a # 1 asshole!!!!!!!! n/t

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

51. A reasonable alternative...

Instead of dropping a bomb, what say was drop Thomas G. Tancredo instead? And instead of dropping him on Mecca, how about someplace like the middle of the Rub al-Khali desert? I think that would be an appropriate response. And come to think of it, why wait until somebody attacks the United States? Pre-emptive Strikes and all of that. Let's drop Tancredo from a C-37 at a height of 40,000 feet just to prove to the Terrorists that we mean business. I'm sure that as a patriotic American, Tancredo would be the first to volunteer.

[Psephos]

73. LOL n/t

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

53. Wow! What a levelheaded, responsible

example of leadership on the part of this Congressman.Perhaps he'd care to share his idea of what to do if spaceships landed and began slaughtering Americans? The chances of that happening are just about the same.

[K-W]

54. Facist.

We must be dilligent in fighting the scapegoating of Islam.

[geek tragedy]

55. Little Green Footballs' favorite Congresscritter.

Fascist fuck.

[Coventina]

56. Well, that's a good way to win hearts and minds!!

This guy is a genius!

:sarcasm:

[raccoon]

80. Hey, maybe he should run instead of Jeb! nt

</sarcasm>

[paulk]

134. he has announced his intention to run for President in 2004

for real.

[wallwriter]

58. World War III...

That would guarantee a nuclear attack on the US. And Russia and China would probably debate which side to be on...

[slackmaster]

59. Tancredo should get a job as Information Minister for North Korea

What an asshat.

[patcox2]

60. Hey, its crude, but deterrence could work.

Sorry, but deterrence really could work. For example, the threat of massive retaliation kept both the US and the USSR from attacking each other for 50 years. It was literally a form of terrorism, strategic nuclear weapons held the civilian populations of each country hostage.

Right now, deterrence is working in preventing attacks on the US by any NATION. We can dismantle any nation that attacks us with conventional force.

The terrorists cannot be deterred because they are not a nation.

This proposal is, to me, worthwhile. It would also, I point out, give other, non-terrorist muslims, a good reason to do somemthing about the terrorists in their midst.

[lazarus]

89. It would also

give another, non-Muslim terrorists a great way to have just a few bombs translate into a race and religion war.

[IA_Seth]

90. Umm...

:puke:

Thats about all I have to say about that.

[lumpy]

107. "Loose lips sink ships" :,

saying from WW2. Tancredo's words will be heard around the world. The incompetant fool has created more hate against the US. He should be soundly repremanded by his peers and thown out of office.

[Tweed]

116. Wait....

Are you suggesting that we take Military action against the United Kingdom if we are attacked by UK citizens?

[President Kerry]

178. classic right-wing philosophy..

extremist are not deterred by their very nature.. the commit SUICIDE for a cause they believe to be absolute truth. Something right wing hacks like to talk about - this absolute truth. Guess what - there is no absolute truth. Those are evil, misled fools that you will not deter. On the contrary, by saying something as utterly stupid and insane as what Tancredo stated you multiply their ranks.

[strizi64]

63. Holy crap, let's start WWIII, culture of "life"! bullshit

he should have some medics, and be keept away from public.....

[WinkyDink]

65. Man, they'll do anything

to save Bushco.
I firmly believe this would all be done from the inside.
But maybe this time around the CIA would refuse to co-operate.

[NNN0LHI]

66. This guy would nuke Mexicans if he could too

What a coincidence. He is one of Lou Dobbs favorite guests.

Don

[Stuckinthebush]

67. So then I guess it is OK if they then bomb Israel

Oh, and then in retaliation, we'll bomb Egypt

Oh, and then they'll come back at us by bombing the Vatican

Then we will blow up Syria

and on, and on, and on....

Boy, humans are fools aren't we?

[TechBear_Seattle]

68. How nice to know that Tancredo has turned traitor

What else would you call it when a Congressman starts providing soundbites for Al-Qaida recruitment material? Nothing says Christian love like, "If five fanatical followers of a religion of more than 1.2 billion attack the US again, we will destroy sites held holy by that 1.2 billion."

Tell me, Representative Tancredo: If a group of Catholic terrorists attack the US, shall we carpet bomb the Vatican in to oblivion?

[berni_mccoy]

70. I wonder how many soldiers in the Middle East will die for his words?

[OKthatsIT]

74. Man...you're right....that guy should shut TFU!

.

[Roon]

72. Can someone come up with an e-mail for this guy?

Or is his office at least?

[raccoon]

82. Click on this link to email Tancredo

http://tancredo.house.gov/contacttom.asp

[MadisonProgressive]

94. My email

Area of Interest: War on Terrorism

Correspondence: How stupid are you? You want to punish 1.2 billion muslims because a few FALSE muslims do some bad things? You are playing right into Al Qaeda's hands and endangering our troops with that kind of treasonous talk! If you care about your career I would recommend apologizing ASAP!

[raccoon]

97. Good going!

[raccoon]

161. Here's my email, which I just sent.

Area of Interest: War on Terrorism

I read about your remark that if a multiple-city attack occurred in the US, and was found to be the work of extremist Muslims, the US should "take out their holy sites."

This was a stupid and inflammatory remark that I think you need to apologize for. If this remark was the suggestion of one of your staff members, you need to fire that person. If it was your own idea, you need to learn to think through the consequences of such irresponsible remarks.

[azoth]

108. My email to the congressman...

Congressman,

I'd like to respond to your comments re: "bombing religious sites" in retaliation for an attack on the US.
I am appalled at your knee-jerk, revenge-motivated suggestion to bomb sites considered holy to Muslims. Given that the terrorists are extremists - representing 1% of 1% of the 1.2 *billion* Muslims on the planet - I find your remarks to be inflammatory and inappropriate.
Isn't it time to work for peace instead of playing tit-for-tat political games of Risk with real lives? How many soldiers do you think you put in danger with your remarks? How many times do you think your sound clip will be played in the "terrorist training camps" and used to enrage a whole new generation of extremist?
I shudder to think.

Congressman, I urge you to retract your statements, but at the same time, believe that the damage is irreparable.

[lumpy]

110. E-mails sent to the Denver Post, Seattle Times

Hope we get some response. Whether or not this story in the Daily Times is correct, it is out there in cyber space. The damage has been done.

[existentialist]

121. good e-mail;

What do you suppose we can do about making sure he gets such e-mails from voters in his own congressional district?

[azoth]

147. Actually

I used to live in Colorado and keep up with a few people who live in Littleton.

I forwarded this on to them...but - sadly - most of them voted for shrubbie.

[existentialist]

157. good effort

(maybe they are having "buyer's remorse")

[mbperrin]

76. Very possibly the stupidest and most dangerous comment

ever made by any government official in the history of the US.

And that is going some! If this nut is not in custody soon, then no one can wonder about other Colorado events anymore.
:crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy:

[Fleshdancer]

81. but hey, this isn't a religious war, right? right?

asshole. :eyes:

[underthedome]

84. Unreal. He should be removed now! nm

nm

[Orion The Hunter]

85. Coming to an Islamic Fundamentalist Terrorist Recruiting Poster Near You!

Thanks Congressman Tancredo - the terrorists were really having a hard time coming up with new material for the next advertising campaign.

What an asshat...

[Pert_UK]

86. Asked if that meant Mecca, Tancredo answered, “Where?”

I'd be surprised if this moron knew anything about Islam or its holy sites.

[JawJaw]

96. Well, why should we expect Tancredo to know a little geography?

Or even show a shred of diplomacy or tact.


He's only on the COMMITTEE ON INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS, after all. Nuking Mecca can't be very high on the agenda (yet...)

Give the poor widdle wingnut a break....

[Tweed]

118. Er....

He knows where Mecca is....

[wallwriter]

87. Scary also all the Freepers saying what a great idea that is.

[noonwitch]

93. They've been saying that since 9-11

They even have little graphics of it happening.

What they don't understand is- let's say we do retaliate for a terror attack by nuking Mecca. How will the terrorists then respond? Probably by attacking a christian holy site, the most obvious one being the Vatican, or by a devastating attack on Jerusalem or a large american city. Nuking Mecca will not stop terror attacks. Tracking down terrorists will.

[donco6]

127. We've got people on this thread saying it's a good idea.

Hmmm. . .

[strizi64]

88. Ok, let's use this

First, take it to MSM, pound them with calls, emails and so on. With reference to the chinese General who talked about Nukes & Taiwan.

Second, take it to the local papers. If Tancredo is re-elected 2006, something went wrong after this.

Third, find some good & friendly slogans, like "Tancredo cares about our military, he put's every soldier in danger"

Fourth, don't give up, one mail is not enough, do a second round 2-3 days later.

Use this to out the "spirit" of the GOP. And never forget: a drop of water is nothing, thousand waterdrops form a river, a lake, the sea.....

striz

[Danieljay]

92. ummm...excuse me people...

but this is the first time I've heard of this

"multiple-city attack happened in the United States in the next 90 days, as predicted by an Israeli expert"

Is there something we don't know about? Why isn't anyone talking about this statement? Sure, the guys an idiot for saying what he said and it would create more terrorists, but this is the first I've heard that there might be a multi city attack. True? Or fear tactic?

[KansDem]

141. "...predicted by an Israeli expert"

If I recall correctly, wasn't Israel one of the countries whose intelligence agencies were warning us of the impending 9/11 attacks?

The Israeli intelligence service chose to pass on its own intelligence to Washington through its contacts in French and Egyptian intelligence agencies because it did not believe its previous warnings on an impending attack by the bin-Laden network had been taken seriously enough in Washington.
http://www.antiwar.com/orig/thomas2.html

We didn't listen to them then, why listen to them now?

[AuntiBush]

158. You Betcha. Somewhere here on DU is a recent Post abt Israel Spies

in the Pentagon. Go figure... *sad/sarcasim*

[UrbScotty]

98. He's considering a run for President, you know.

http://www.politics1.com/p2008-gop.htm#tancredo

[raccoon]

163. Oh, Lord. Seeing that he's such an idiot, if he runs, he'll

probably win.

[UrbScotty]

171. Unless Santorun runs (nt)

[Igel]

99. I wonder how this plays across the cultural divide?

I mean, all the mouthing of nice multicultural and tolerant platitudes is frequently taken as a sign of weakness. Baghdad Bob's outrageous statements were taken as more interesting, and presumably of higher credibility, than mere factual statements because they were couched in culturally correct language; he dissed the US, and the US responded with remarkably level, non-face-saving jargon.

And I don't mean what kind of words do official and unofficial sources say in response to it, or what do Americans believe the proper or likely Middle Eastern response will be. I mean, what kind of effect will it actually have on conservative Muslims' attitudes and future actions? (Keeping in mind the usual 'Think one thing, say nother, and do a third" kind of behavior I've come to expect from many, many people.)

[NYdemocrat089]

100. Great Idea!

:sarcasm:
Let's bomb Mecca and see what good that does us! I guarentee that hell would break loose.

Some of these people honestly scare me. They aare so stupid.

[0rganism]

101. Tancredo just upped the stakes big-time for a false-flag operation

Every white-supremacist skinhead christianist militia group just got a big pointer as to exactly what they need to do to get America to nuke arabs. Good job, Tommy, way to fuck up the world.

[ibegurpard]

102. Yeah, that would work.

That's going to show them and stop them in their tracks for sure.:sarcasm:

[goforit]

103. Um....Mr. Tancredo?....We have churches too. Do you want them to

retaliate by destroying your own?

Don't wish unto others that you would not wish onto yourself.

Hmmmmm......I do believe this is a Christian lesson if christian
lessons are taught in the holy land of the Christian Right.

[TrogL]

104. According to the Bush Doctrine

That's all the justification an outside power would need to attack the United States.

[Initech]

106. World war III! World war III! World war III!

World war III! World war III!

[architect359]

109. Tancredo is an idiot

A dangerous idiot. How do people like that even get elected? You'd think we'd screen lunatics from holding positions of power. Oh, wait...too late, dang it.

[donco6]

126. Try, RE-elected.

He's been in twice. And he was just as big an idiot the first time.

Don't ask me - he's not in my district.

[belle]

111. Hi, Tancredo! Have a nice steaming cup of shut the fuck up.

...Jesus.

[lumpy]

113. Do your duty , for pete's sake e-mail Tancredo

Don't be afraid- do your duty

http://tancredo.house.gov/contacttom.asp

[GoddessOfGuinness]

114. Thanks for the link...

That asshole has got to go!

[donco6]

115. My note to Tom

"Dear Congressman, Your comments regarding the potential bombing of Muslim holy sites only serves to further enflame an already chaotic situation. Your comments are already being found in newspapers in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and other Muslim population centers. Please think a little more before you speak next time.

PS. You really are an idiot, aren't you?"

[Dr Fate]

117. Distraction from Rovegate. BAIT. Please Ignore. n/t

n/t

[patcox2]

120. Did anyone read the story? Hello, McFly?

Okay, he was asked a hypothetical question. The question was, what should we do if the US suffers a multiple-city NUCLEAR attack. What should we do if several of our cities are attacked with nuclear weapons.

He's not talking about a car bomb, a hijacked plane, anything trivial.

Oh, but you all would have us do what in those circumstances? Call up the terrorists and apologize for whatever we did that offended them?

I'd be inclined toward Mecca as a target. Its a better target than Iraq or even afghanistan. Saudi Aarabia is after all the primary financial suppoorter of Al Quead and the primary provider of manpower.

[donco6]

122. So, some whacko Muslim guy sets off a bomb

and we nuke Mecca? Who are we retaliating against? This is the same idiotic nonsense that got us involved in Iraq.

PS. the "McFly" thing is so 80s.

[BornLeft]

167. Hello back at you McFly

In the country I was born in, we did not even think about bombing holy sites and places of worship. In fact we tried to prevent them from happening in our country<1960's history is a good reference> I see you have joined the New America. We never considered civilians worshipping as the enemy, and we sure the fuck would not bomb them. So please take the McFly statement and place it where it belongs.

[0007]

125. ....and we wonder why the world hates us!

[Canuckistanian]

128. Do you think Al-Jazeera might cover this?

Yeah, that'll make those Muslims cower in fear, eh?

[zara]

130. Anybody think Al Qaeda could use this as recuitin' material?

My oh my.
Maybe Mr. Tancredo is looking forward to the rapture; he won't be here to suffer the blowback from his stupidity.

[XNGH]

131. Can you say ... good bye Vatican

Oh yeah ... and that won't start a full blown war with the Muslims. What frigging Einstein thought of this.

[Sterling]

132. We would be better off if we just killed all the muslims.

That is what it would take after we bombed Mecca because just about every Muslim would join a terror cell.

[barb162]

133. Hmm, discussion time: if Moslems bomb Rome, does every

Catholic join a terror cell?

[Kraklen]

135. If Saudi Arabia nuked Rome...

it would certainly be called for every Catholic and every other peace loving human being to fight the government of Saudi Arabia.

If the U.S. nuked Mecca, I certainly hope all muslims, and everybody else, would ally fight back.

[Xithras]

149. Actually, there probably WOULD be a bit of that.

It's undoubtable that if a Muslim terrorist destroyed the Vatican or killed the Pope, that some Catholic paramilitary terrorist groups would pop up and start attacking Muslims. It would be something along the lines of the IRA on a global scale.

Catholicism in the US and Europe is fairly mellow, but there are still large parts of the world where Catholics are fairly rabid about their faith. The problem, at that point, would be escalation...a situation like that could go from terrorist strike to WWIII in nothing flat.

[barb162]

165. I think you're probably right

[Chicago Democrat]

136. Brilliant, Einstein!

Let's make you ruler of the universe!

[reprobate]

139. Is his middle name "Strangelove". What is wrong with republicans?

Have they ALL gone bonkers?

[Parche]

140. attacked

If we are supposedly "attacked" again, which Sept 11th we were
not....then he should blame GW Bush for not keeping his
promise of keeping the US safe.

[barb162]

143. 9/11 wasn't an attack?

[Parche]

172. Sept 11th

NO Sept 11th was not an attack

How do you call 19 Hijackers hijacking airplanes an attack?


Pearl Harbor was an attack, Fort Sumter in the Civil war was
an attack

[Dead_Parrot]

144. Ooh, warm fuzzies... n/t

[Rex]

146. That's what Jesus would do!

I'm sure they would all lay down their evil terrorist weapons and start living peaceful lives... :crazy:

[paineinthearse]

151. Rep. Johnson, R-Texas, ~March 1, 2005 - NUKE SYRIA!

This is not the first time a rethug congresscritter has called out for the nuking of a middle east city. Recall the words of Rep Johnson, spoken at the annual veterans' appreciation breakfast at the Suncreek United Methodist Church in Allen, TX, captured on tape, and reported by The Washington Roll Call and by TODD J. GILLMAN of The Dallas Morning News - and previously posted to DU.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/nation/stories/030405dnnatjohnson.191a9.html

"Syria is the problem," the former fighter pilot said at a pancake breakfast at Suncreek United Methodist Church in Allen. "Syria is where those weapons of mass destruction are, in my view. You know, I can fly an F-15, put two nukes on 'em, and I'll make one pass. We won't have to worry about Syria anymore."

I sent a letter to the minister, Rev. Kathleen Baskin-Ball, but never got a reply.

[lumpy]

164. We don't need jokers in the Congress nor in the WH.

"President Bush knew I was joking," Rep.Johnson(R)Texas said Thursday. Big "joke". Hahaha..... sure. These bastards salivate at the prospect of bombing the mideast.

[norml]

156. Congressman Says He Doesn't Advocate Bombing Mecca

Congressman Says He Doesn't Advocate Bombing Mecca

POSTED: 9:36 pm EDT July 18, 2005
UPDATED: 9:40 pm EDT July 18, 2005

DENVER -- Colorado U.S. Rep. Tom Tancredo said he was talking about deterrence when he raised the possibility of bombing Mecca if Muslim terrorists set off nuclear weapons in American cities.

On a Florida radio show Friday, Tancredo was asked what the response should be to a nuclear attack on U.S. cities. He answered that if fundamentalist Muslims were to blame, "you could take out their holy sites." When he was asked if he meant bombing Mecca, the congressman said, "Yeah."

But in a statement issued Sunday, Tancredo said he was talking about a making a threat that might deter such an attack, insisting: "I do not advocate this."

The Council on American-Islamic Relations has asked to meet with the congressman and is urging the Republican Party to repudiate his remarks.


snip


http://www.wtov9.com/news/4739592/detail.html

[raccoon]

162. What an idiot! A flip-flopper, no less.

"But in a statement issued Sunday, Tancredo said he was talking about a making a threat that might deter such an attack, insisting: "I do not advocate this." "

First, he said, we should "take out their holy sites," now he's saying, "I do not advocate this."

So which is it? What a dip.

[Mister Mark]

159. Tampa

Leave it to a radio station in Tampa to interview this idiot.

[CRK7376]

166. WHAT AN IDIOT!

Take out Islamic holy sites and then there would be an unbelieveable jihad. What an idiot. Let him join the Marines or Army and go to Baghdad and take out a few Muslims etc...Nothing like throwing gas on a raging fire.....

[Deja Q]

173. If only we didn't rely on their oil...

Damn idiot repukes. They care only for short-term profits so much they overly-rely us on oil despite the 1970s crisis, offshore (which ALSO makes us vulnerable), and I could go on for ages.

To coin a phrase, "bring em on".

[oasis]

174. As if just talking about it won't stir up more jihad loonies. Tancredo

is an incredibly racist dunce :dunce:

[unfrigginreal]

176. Big Deal!

The number of responses to this post just goes to show how out of touch we are as a group. Do you really think that many in the US care about this sentiment. Hell, I'd bet that the majority of Americans think it's a good idea.

I'm not saying that anyone here is not entitled or for that matter, is not correct in feeling outrage toward the Congressman's remarks. It's just that we expend too much energy on what amounts to be losing positions for us in the public eye.

[President Kerry]

179. we ARE the public eye! any evidence to your claim that

the majority would support taking out the Holy Sites?

[unfrigginreal]

183. Yeah

Look at the ratings for Faux News - Check out the make up of the Supreme Court - Note the party in charge of Congress - and last but not least George W. Bush.

[Chicago Democrat]

177. What an IDIOT!

lets do the thing that will HURT US THE MOSt instead of the thing that is smart!


DUH!