Rice angered after US officials manhandled in Sudan

[eeyore]

KHARTOUM (Reuters) - Sudanese security manhandled U.S. officials and journalists outside a meeting between U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and President Omar Hassan al-Bashir on Thursday, prompting Rice to demand an apology.

"It makes me very angry to be sitting with their president and have this happen," Rice told reporters on her plane before leaving Khartoum for Darfur. Earlier, she told reporters she wanted an apology.

Sudanese guards and officials shoved U.S. journalists away from the Bashir meeting and slammed the wooden doors to his palace in their faces.

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http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2005-07-21T083612Z_01_FOR130964_RTRUKOC_0_SUDAN-USA-APOLOGY.xml


How much do you all think Ole Karl paid the Sudanese to cook this one up?
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[madrchsod]

4. that`s no way to talk to......what ever that is........

she one of the ugliest woman i have ever seen in my 58 yrs of existence

[LiberalFighter]

62. I don't care for Rice...

but she isn't the ugliest woman at least IMO. And she definitely is not the prettiest or pretty. Just not appealing. I would feel uncomfortable around her knowing that she is whacked out.

[truthisfreedom]

2. *yawn* rice is boring. everything about this administration is boring and

predictable.

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[Catfight]

16. I tend to agree with you, everything they do is political and for their

elitist buddies. No morals, I'm bored with the daily incompetence and rhetoric of this administration.

[eeyore]

3. Andrea Mitchell seems to have been roughed up

I just saw it on CNN. Here's the link to their story. Very strange indeed.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/africa/07/21/rice.tussle/index.html

[opihimoimoi]

7. Poor Condi....got no respect....wonder why ?

[bribri16]

50. She should take the damn pants off and show some mutual respect.

But then, the US doesn't have to respect anyone else's culture.

[opihimoimoi]

70. Bushies ARROGANCE has become CONTAGIOUS

[The_Casual_Observer]

68. Where the hell do they think they are, a 4th of July picnic?

Honestly, if they choose to visit remote 3rd world places, the ought to expect a little rough going once in a while.

[ET Awful]

6. Hey Condie, I bet a lot of foreign dignitaries ahte having their

journalists not only manhandled, but blown up or shot by US military operations in Iraq. Or had you forgotten the attack on the hotel by the Army? Or maybe you forgot the intentional targeting of other journalists as well?

Spare me your righteous indignation, it'll work better on someone who actually gives a fuck what you think.

[StaggerLee]

12. Indeed

"Oh no my people got roughed up a li'l!"

They're not going home in body bags now are they missy.

Fuckin' Eva Braun lookin'.....

[SoCalDem]

8. No one likes the way our "press" covers things these days.

Clue to newsies:.."They" watch our news too.. "They" are not afraid to be a bit 'confrontational'..Get used to it, or CHANGE..

Start reporting what's actually happening instead of what the WH TELLS you is happening, and the 'unwashed masses' might start treating you all better :)

[flordehinojos]

9. pooh-pooh confrontiza rice -- is there ever any time when she ain't angry?

[rodeodance]

44. yes--when she is smiling like a puppy at Jr.

[MetaTrope]

10. Hahahahaha

Foreign dignitaries have been physically humiliated by the Bush junta for years...it's nice to see other countries are giving tit-for-tat now.

[KeepItReal]

11. Condi Rice was roughed up by a BBC interviewer also this morning

He asked her why the U.S. was taking sooo long to act on the crisis in the Sudan.

She weakly stubmled along about how the U.S. was waiting for a U.N. resolution (imagine that) to do something more substantial.

[Ian David]

13. She missed the memo that said....

"Sudanese Officials Determined to Man-Handle Rice's Delegation in Khartoum."

[KeepItReal]

14. It's too early in tha morning to be that funny!!

[meganmonkey]

28. Bwa ha ha ha ha!

:rofl:

Thanks, I needed that! :toast:

[cliss]

38. Love it!

Thankx for making my morning.

[MadisonProgressive]

15. I think I'm in heaven - this part is so YUMMY!

NBC correspondent roughed up

But there was yet another scuffle with security shortly after he apologized when NBC News correspondent Andrea Mitchell tried to ask el-Bashir a question about his involvement with alleged atrocities.

"Why should the U.S. believe the Sudanese government will stop the killing when the government is still supporting the militia?" Mitchell asked, before guards grabbed her and muscled her toward the rear of the room as State Department officials shouted at the guards to leave her alone.

[Mandate My Ass]

23. Wow, good question. Her next should be to Bush

Why should we believe freedom is on the march when we are we training and arming death squads in Iraq? I'm sure she'd get shown the door in exactly the same manner.

[alarimer]

17. This is completely uncalled for

And so are some of the comments in this thread.

[livinginphotographs]

18. I agree...

Rice is disgusting, but that doesn't mean I have to support the butchers in Sudan's government roughing-up reporters who dare to question them. This has nothing to do with Sudan getting back at us for our foreign policy, or for the sorry state of our media. This is a dictator who is not used to a "free" media like ours (and I struggled to type that) that is free to ask questions of our leaders.

[SemperEadem]

36. I'd like to see Mitchell use some of those balls she brought to

Sudan to ask * and his myrmidons the same kinds of questions during press conferences.

Now that she has experienced the extreme, she shouldn't be afraid here in the US to do the same to our elected officials.

[livinginphotographs]

41. One can only hope...

[RatRacer]

34. Correct

Sometimes I think we get so blinded by our disdain for certain people and political figures we lose the point. There is no excuse for this kind of behavior by the Sudanese.

[TankLV]

42. So, our dictatorial president can unilaterally declare anybody,

US citizen or not, an enemy combatant, and imprison them indefinitely with or without a trial,

He can torture people at will,

He can start wars preemptively based even on lies,

And you don't see the irony of this action?

I don't think WE have any basis to criticise the actions of others for mistreatment any longer until WE clean up our own house.

[alarimer]

57. You are right of course

We definitely need to hold Bush and his minions accountable. I was mostly referring to the comments made about Rice and company. No matter how much we dislike her, the treatment the reporters received was unacceptable, no matter who is doing it and we need to call them on it.

[mandomom]

19. Force and intimidation can be accomplished against

perceived enemies in many ways. Some just go for misusing classified info during a time of war to try to shut up the outspoken individuals. I guess the Sudanese just have a slight cultural difference. At least they operate openly and publically.

[alcibiades_mystery]

20. Oi...now Andrea Mitchell will be all over the airwaves

pretending to be a real journalist.

Would that she would dare to ask Bush a difficult question. then she'd just get audited or shunned. Which form of power is more insidious?

[bluedog]

21. bound to happen

sooner or later.........shows one.the world is getting sick of the "false" stories these peole go around the world sprewing.

[livinginphotographs]

22. That is such BS.

They were "manhandled" because the Sudanese government is a bunch of criminals who don't like being called to task for the atrocities they're responsible for.

To turn this into some "Bush made the world hate us" is pure unadulterated bullshit.

[bluedog]

26. wrong

Mitchell
This incident was perpetrated by a reporter trying to make a splash

She had no business asking questions to embarass members of the other diplomatic mission.

This was a diplomatic mission not an investigative hit campaign. Andre Mitchell should show some respect the next time

and bush would have had reporters "ejected" also......he doesn't answer what he doesn't want too.....

[livinginphotographs]

27. You said:

"the world is getting sick of the "false" stories these peole go around the world sprewing"

How this incident shows that, I don't know. Do you?

If the US isn't going to call the Sudanese government to task, I have no problem with a reporter doing so.

[Frances]

29. I don't approve of what the Sudanese officials did

Neither do I approve of the Secret Service arresting Dems at Bush events paid for by ALL Americans.

[livinginphotographs]

32. Exactly.

There's nothing wrong with calling the Bushies on their hypocrisy, but to somehow turn this into a valid political statement by the Sudanese government is ridiculous.

[SemperEadem]

37. you're describing the current administration

* and his ilk are criminals even more so, although they do the very same thing in an indirect, sneaky, underhanded, shady way.

At least the Sudanese stand in the middle of their truth and do their deed so all can see... and can issue a damn apology for going too far. I've yet to see * do anything remotely close to that... in fact, he takes pride in forging ahead in the very opposite direction of that.

* should be handing Rove and Cheney their walking papers and not offering immunity to either of them. Those are living, breathing, blatant American criminals who will never see the inside of a prison cell.

[livinginphotographs]

40. Are you serious????

We're talking about the Sudanese government here, not trying to have a pissing contest to see who hates Bush more. This is ridiculous...

I'm perfectly capable of being disgusted with both the Bush admin and the Sudanese govt, but some people here seem to think it's an either-or situation.

[SemperEadem]

60. neither is guiltless

But we're also talking about the fact that the * government isn't blameless, either--by a long shot. They are both corrupt---the difference being the * government does things in the shadows, under cover, on the sly---pissing on one's head and telling them it's raining--with the collusion of the MSM, Mitchell being a part of that.

I just want to see her use the balls she used in Sudan and lob the same questions at * and his ilk.

[fujiyama]

47. The Sudanese regime

is guilty of genocide. I have no idea why anyone would excuse this behavior.

[livinginphotographs]

51. Thank you.

[tanyev]

24. Condi's just mad that they were so indiscreet about it.

One of Rice's aides eventually said, "We have a free press in the U.S.," and a Sudanese official responded, "Well, we don't here," Koppel reported.

Rice is visiting Sudan hoping to shore up the country's new government following more than two decades of civil warfare between the largely Islamic north and the mostly Christian and animist south. Sudan's new leaders were sworn in this month.

She'll send someone over there for some tutorials on how to massage and manipulate the press so that they voluntarily spread the desired message.

[PunkPop]

31. Exactly!!

The irony is so rich. Sudan is one of our "partners" in the war on terror. It's just one more repressive regime that Bushco has teamed up with in it's continuing march of hypocrisy and incompetence. They just don't have the skilled touch that our criminal administration has when it comes to "handling" the press. They are at a disadvantage because they don't have the leverage or influence allowing them to subtly manipulate reporter's and their coverage. They're reduced to slamming doors in their face and shoving them around. All that's needed is some kind of Bushco seminar or Karl Rove-like guru to help them perfect their technique.

[sidpleasant]

25. Would Rice be so outraged if the reporter wasn't married to Greenspan?

Would the secretary of state have gotten so upset if the Sudanese had manhandled a reporter from the New York Times or the Guardian?

[suegeo]

30. Rice gets promotion

As NSA, Rice had a prominent role to play in protecting our nation.
9.11 was a hugh flop (on her watch), people were running through the streets for their lives. Thousands died.

Wars (Invasions) ensued. Many more thousands died.

As a result of these failures and deaths and destruction, Rice gets promoted.

Wanna guess how angry I am, Dr. Rice.

[jazzjunkysue]

33. Astounding! You think Iraq likes being pushed and shoved?

It's just amazing, the la la land these people inhabit. Try having your son and husband shot and your house blown up, Condi. Try living without clean water or refridgeration or electricity. Try that for a few years, and then see if a few pushes are really a big problem for you.

[Roland99]

35. Is she going to walk on them with her boots?

[TankLV]

39. Pot meet Kettle

The hypocricy is real thick this morning.

Maybe she should look in the mirror?

[mbperrin]

43. "They have no right to push and shove," Rice said,

but a little "shock and awe" is always in style, right?

Hmmm...wonder if she watched the "riot" in Florida during the 2000 election? Were those REPUBLICANS pushing and shoving or no?


Well...what do I expect from the biggest hypocrites on the planet? They can talk out of more sides of their mouths than I even have!


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FUCKERS!

[Booster]

45. Why isn't she outraged over what's actually going on in Sudan?

Stupid, ugly woman.

[MetaTrope]

59. Maybe she thinks the government will be easier to deal with

than the Christian warlords would be.

[ColonelTom]

65. THANK YOU!!!

It took until the 45th post to hit the nail on the head. Maim, rape, and kill thousands and thousands of Sudanese, and we send a Cabinet member to chat and "shore up their government." Shove a U.S. reporter, though, and by God, IT'S GO TIME!!!!

[donsu]

46. this pic of Rice is on Netscape's front page news thingy

http://cdn.netscape.com/wpt_tonr_03/200507211033_mb_hlm1_i1_2_0


I'm ok with anyone pissing off Rice. more power to them.

[cliss]

66. Same here. Agreed.

I think it's about time Condiment Rice gets a chance to see what her government's policies have created around the world.

[KansDem]

48. Condi needs to get out more...

Hey, Condi, stay at home and see how people who protest your boss are handled in this "land of the free!" You might learn something about "manhandling."

[Cha]

49. Shazaam!

Wondered how long this was going to take after the USA's policies of bombing innocent people, throwing them in prison with no charges, killing journalists in Iraq, ad infinitum.

[Miss Chybil]

52. Karl Rove is NOT GOD! He is not Omnipotent. He does not control the

universe. I think possibly the Sudanese are quite capable of being rude all by themselves - without ANY help from Karl Rove.

Get a grip.

[sakabatou]

53. I think you owe Sudan an apology for just going

[Felix Mala]

54. Condescendra: You can't do that to our press corp.

Only we in the administration can do that to our press corp.


To paraphrase "Animal House."

[Ksec]

55. yep agreed

[The Stranger]

56. I'm sure DICK DURBIN will apologize.

Maybe these people won't, but Dick will certainly apologize.

[manly]

58. rice

and where was she when she bravely made her remarks?
Safely ensconced on her getaway plane, shouting(figuratively) over her shoulder.

[Old Mouse]

61. they were not "being led to the back of the room"

they were just stopped in time.

[Andrushka]

63. That's no way to treat reporters!

[goforit]

64. LOL!!!........Sweet Karma.....Condi? Remember Abu Gharib?

LOL!!!!......just tooooooo funny.

[wanpete]

67. I'd think Condi would rather like to be "manhandled" since I doubt

this happens too often for her.

[Bark Bark Bark]

69. Hold Tight, Ugly

We'll call you a waaaaaaaaaaaaambulance.

[ngGale]

71. Saw it on TeeVee ....

:popcorn: