'Enemies of humanity' quote raises Iraq PR questions

[pazarus]

Sorry if this has been posted. I just saw it on CNN, and I didn't see it here yet.

link to CNN

Following are the two quotes as provided by the U.S. military in news releases:

Sunday's news release said: "'The terrorists are attacking the infrastructure, the ISF and all of Iraq. They are enemies of humanity without religion or any sort of ethics. They have attacked my community today and I will now take the fight to the terrorists,' said one Iraqi man who preferred not to be identified."

The July 13 news release said: "'The terrorists are attacking the infrastructure, the children and all of Iraq,' said one Iraqi man who preferred not to be identified. 'They are enemies of humanity without religion or any sort of ethics. They have attacked my community today and I will now take the fight to the terrorists.'"

It's a story about the PR campaign being waged by the Bush administration being exposed by a little accident, where they used a supposed quote from an Iraqi on the scene. Problem is, this Iraqi was a little too much on message, as his words are exactly the same as the ones at a previous attack site weeks before.

Unless the Republicans have been over there training them on talking points, it seems clear the army is just pulling stock quotes, and who knows who really wrote them.

[wookie294]

1. LOL

It's like capturing Zarqawi's Number 2 Man every week. The Pentagon is a comical place. What children!

:rofl: :rofl:

[bassman79]

2. We have NO idea what's really goin on in Iraq

[wookie294]

3. Well, we do know it's a quagmire and that we lost the war

That's something.

[pazarus]

6. at least they are doing an internal investigation

of this incident. Those are worthwhile. I'm sure it was isolated--you know, bad apples are everywhere. Some punk kid decided to make a PR decision and modify a quote. Those ranks are just full of bad apples, they'll have us believe while they give out crooked orders.

[WhiteTara]

11. here, let me turn on the sarcasm button

for you. Your post was absolutely dripping :sarcasm:
Damn I hate those bastards who have stolen our wh.
IMPEACH BUSH AND SEND THEM ALL TO THE HAGUE!
:rant:

[pazarus]

20. sometimes it just flows

and i forget to mention it. I think reciting RNC talking points is about the most sarcastic thing you can do, assuming you know anything about anything.

[WhiteTara]

39. oh so true

"most imports come from other countries" chimpy 2000

[wishlist]

4. Reminiscent of all those pro-Iraq identical letters to editors by soldiers

This incident reminds me of the discovery of that rash of identical letters to the editor printed by various papers around the country signed by different military personnel that extolled all the good things the soldiers were doing in Iraq. The Administration's propaganda efforts are shameless and pervasive.

[wookie294]

7. I remember that

When Bush's military and intelligence officials get caught, they don't even care. They figure, "The American people are stupidy anyway, so any screw up will mostly be ignored as the sheep follow."

[NNN0LHI]

5. Propaganda full speed ahead. The Fox news viewers just eat it up n/t

[VioletLake]

8. "They are enemies of humanity without religion or any sort of ethics."

They describe themselves when talking about their enemies. They are, after all, the spitting image of villainy.

[Cocoa]

9. just like they didn't order enough body armor

they didn't order enough fake quotes, they have to recycle them.

[54anickel]

10. An "administrative error". Be assured the "military is looking into it"

I assume that means it will disappear into the memory hole.

[UpInArms]

40. didn't the cabal name Karen Hughes as the administrator

for this "image polishing"?

[54anickel]

41. Actually, I took her new position to be a promotion from turd polisher.

She's now going to Murikanize Muslims across the world, to fuel and fan the flames for BeezleBush's holy war.

Turd polishing is beneath her now. This will be delegated to General Myers.

[tuvor]

12. 'Enemies of humanity' quote raises Iraq PR questions

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- The U.S. military on Sunday said it was looking into how virtually identical quotations ended up in two of its news releases about different insurgent attacks.

Following a car bombing in Baghdad on Sunday, the U.S. military issued a statement with a quotation attributed to an unidentified Iraqi that was virtually identical to a quote reacting to an attack on July 13.

After questioning by news media, the military released the statement without the quotation.

Lt. Col. Clifford Kent, spokesman for the U.S. Army's 3rd Infantry Division, said use of the quote was an "administrative error." He said the military was looking into the matter.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/07/24/military.release/index.html

[Lord_StarFyre]

13. oops

:)

[LizW]

14. Oh, my, I wonder how that could have happened.

:eyes:

[MissMarple]

15. Administrative error.

They got caught. :)

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

16. Wow, the msm is starting to wake from it's freep induced slumber

I wonder how they are going to manage to function without phoning in the latest talking points and spewing the current propaganda.

Can true journalism and the msm ever co-exist again?

MKJ

[Frederik]

17. Wow, caught red-handed

That the CNN actually has the decency to report this, surprises me somewhat. Of course it was an "administrative error", this sort of thing doesn't normally happen :rofl:

[SlavesandBulldozers]

18. kicking

this is a great article.

recommended.

[girl gone mad]

19. "Without religion"?

If only...

[habitual]

21. I also have a quote from an unidentified Iraqi:

I posted this in a similar thread earlier, here is the ACTUAL quote:

The Americans are attacking the infrastructure, the children and all of Iraq,' said one Iraqi man who preferred not to be identified. 'They are enemies of humanity without religion or any sort of ethics. They have attacked my community today and I will now take the fight to the Americans.

[Minstrel Boy]

22. 'Enemies of humanity' quote raises Iraq PR questions

'Enemies of humanity' quote raises Iraq PR questions
News release quotes from unidentified Iraqis are virtually the same

July 24

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- The U.S. military on Sunday said it was looking into how virtually identical quotations ended up in two of its news releases about different insurgent attacks.

Following a car bombing in Baghdad on Sunday, the U.S. military issued a statement with a quotation attributed to an unidentified Iraqi that was virtually identical to a quote reacting to an attack on July 13.

...

Sunday's news release said: "'The terrorists are attacking the infrastructure, the ISF and all of Iraq. They are enemies of humanity without religion or any sort of ethics. They have attacked my community today and I will now take the fight to the terrorists,' said one Iraqi man who preferred not to be identified."

The July 13 news release said: "'The terrorists are attacking the infrastructure, the children and all of Iraq,' said one Iraqi man who preferred not to be identified. 'They are enemies of humanity without religion or any sort of ethics. They have attacked my community today and I will now take the fight to the terrorists.'"

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/07/24/military.release/index.html?section=cnn_topstories

[EFerrari]

23. They need writers badly, don't they?

:)

[saigon68]

26. Even Joseph Goebbels would not have allowed this distortion to happen

</sarcasm>

[UncleSepp]

35. No need for the sarcasm - you're right

These propagandists aren't just bad, they're bad at it.

[leftchick]

36. No he wouldn't have

it just goes to show the neo-freaks suck at everything.

[Supersedeas]

38. no worries....Karen Hughes will straighten out the PR mess

[Tanuki]

24. Good catch

on somebody's part!

[habitual]

25. Corrected Quote:

The Americans are attacking the infrastructure, the ISF and all of Iraq. They are enemies of humanity without religion or any sort of ethics. They have attacked my community today and I will now take the fight to the Americans,' said one Iraqi man who preferred not to be identified.

[Mairead]

32. bingo!

[samsingh]

27. sounds like bush wrote the "I will now take the fight to the terrorists".

aren't they ashamed of themselves for trying this obvious deception.

[magellan]

28. Administrative error

i.e. someone forgot to shuffle the list of Iraqi civilian quotes.

[ninkasi]

29. Sounds to me

like a variation of Astroturfing. Remember all the letters to the editors of newpapers in cities all over the country, all identical, and signed by different people? The Bush lie machine is working overtime.

[EFerrari]

30. It's insulting. Look at the grammar, look at the diction.

No contractions, nothing that indicates anyone actually spokes these words. There isn't a single culture marker, either.

And, the statement begins and ends with the buzz word, "terrorists".

[ikri]

31. Would the unnamed Iraqi be this man?

Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf or as he's better known to some - Comical Ali or The Iraqi Information Minister.

Who'd have guessed that when he was captured it wasn't to ask him if he knew where the WMD's were, it was to give him a job.

[IndianaGreen]

33. Or it could be Chalabi back to his old tricks

Looks like the Pentagon got caught again in another of its lies, with the help of the US press.

[Solly Mack]

34. "enemies of humanity" goes along with "war on ideas"

no doubt this is the PSYOPS talking point of the day...to go along with Bush's new "war on ideas" campaign

[DeepModem Mom]

37. kick