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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 08:19 PM
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Short walk and the No2 bus - a very ordinary journey to death
This is so depressing. The whole world is mad.

The 27-year-old Brazilian-born electrician had been due in Kilburn, to help fit a fire alarm. The only impact the previous day's attempted bombings seemed to be having on him was the one they were having on other Londoners: they were making him late.

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More questions than answers cluster around Mr De Menezes' final minutes when he got there: why was he wearing clothing bulky enough to arouse the suspicion he was hiding explosives? Why was he not challenged sooner? Why did he jump the turnstile when ordered to halt?

"I think that the police are inventing this thing about the thick jacket," said Mr Avila, whose number police found in Mr Menezes's mobile phone.

Mr Pereira denied his cousin would have jumped over the barrier. "Running, maybe. But not running from the police. Everyone runs for the underground. But he wouldn't jump. Why would he jump?"

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/brazil/story/0,12462,1535566,00.html

:crying: for his family
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appleannie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 08:28 PM
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1. This is the type of thing that occurs
when the mindset is condemn first, ask questions later. The only difference between this and the type of thing that is occurring in detention centers is that he was killed instantly and not tortured to death. It does not say much for either England or the USA.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 08:38 PM
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2. the team that killed him was trained to do just what they did
The government had them ready to go and when the opportunity presented itself they were let loose on the British public.

The victim did not die instantly. First he was cornered, then he was pinned to the floor, and then he was executed. He last few moments of life, from the reported witness accounts, were of absolute terror.

We should all understand that identical teams have been organized and trained by our government and are 'good to go', just waiting for the opportunity to present itself.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 08:46 PM
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4. Do you remember the Israeli soldiers allowed to guard at the LA
airport? The elderly Arab did have a gun and did shoot/kill someone. But he was jumped on and his gun was taken and then the Israeli soldier shot him in the head and chest and killed him.

This was reported just as above in MSNBC at the time.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 08:42 PM
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3. I think Blair ordered the police to get him a Middle Eastern corpse.
Blair had all the manufactured "evidence" to try and convict a corpse. If Blair didn't know about the bombings and who did them, wouldn't a capture and interogate be the best thing? To find all of the other hidden cells. Blair would have pinned the bombings on ANY DEAD ARAB dragged in. The orders given and the wheels in motion. The only problem was Jean only looked Arab.

Blair looks nicer and is more intelligent than aWol but he's just as much or more an evil person.


Never forget the assassination of Kelly!
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 10:39 PM
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5. The police should produce the jacket.
""I think that the police are inventing this thing about the thick jacket," said Mr Avila, whose number police found in Mr Menezes's mobile phone."

That should be easy enough.

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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 11:15 PM
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6. Nice to know that London has kill squads now.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 11:26 PM
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7. It's a new crime: "Running While Brown."
And the punishment is death. No arrest, no trial. The punishment is death.

Redstone
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:01 AM
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9. LOL "Running while Brown"
Its a new sport on the part of the Thug Police

"IF ITS BROWN--- ITS DOWN"

LOL
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Rufus T. Firefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 02:55 AM
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8. They could release the CCTV images.
Edited on Mon Jul-25-05 02:56 AM by Rufus T. Firefly
Let's see what he was wearing. Let's see him jump the barrier (you KNOW there would be a camera pointing at that).

I will give the UK authorities credit - as soon as they realized they had screwed up, they admitted it. Think that would happen in the US?
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