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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 12:56 AM
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Conflicts' costs may exceed $700 billion
http://www.detnews.com/2005/nation/0507/25/A05-257768.htm

War in Iraq, Afghanistan saddles U.S. taxpayers with enormous debt, critics say; deficit spending blamed.

By James Sterngold / San Francisco Chronicle

The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have already cost taxpayers $314 billion, and the Congressional Budget Office projects additional expenses of perhaps $450 billion over the next 10 years.

That could make the combined campaigns, especially the war in Iraq, the most expensive military effort in the last 60 years, causing even some conservative experts to criticize the open-ended commitment to an elusive goal. The concern is that the soaring costs, given little weight before now, could play a growing role in U.S. strategic decisions because of the fiscal impact.

"Osama (bin Laden) doesn't have to win; he will just bleed us to death," said Michael Scheuer, a former counterterrorism official at the CIA who led the pursuit of bin Laden and recently retired after writing two books critical of the Clinton and Bush administrations. "He's well on his way to doing it."

The Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments, a nonpartisan Washington think tank, has estimated that the Korean War cost about $430 billion and the Vietnam War cost about $600 billion, in current dollars. According to the latest estimates, the cost of the war in Iraq could exceed $700 billion.
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PSPS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 01:07 AM
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1. There's one big difference
Unlike the expenditures during Korea and even Vietnam, the majority of the money being spent on bush's wars is just lining the pockets of his war-profiteering and campaign-contributing cronies.

What we need is a little more Harry S. Truman here. In WWII, his "Truman Committee" protected taxpayers from these traitorous war profiteers and Halliburton-esqe contracts.

Also, what we need here is a little more FDR:

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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 01:47 AM
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2. It is all about the war profiteering, wndfall profits for Big Oil, and
treason. No going back. Your either with us or against us. I'm against them.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 07:57 AM
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8. I'm with you against them!
I am ready to take my Country back! NOW!!
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 05:09 PM
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17. what happened to the "buck stops here"
and he goes out and falls on his sword?
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 01:52 AM
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3. "FREEDOM" IS ON THE MARCH
Its really good to see all seniors can afford their prescriptions and that there's no hunger in amerika </sarcasm>
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entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 02:27 AM
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4. Would it ever occur to these
monsters to spend 700 billion on fighting poverty and unemployment? Providing better healthcare? Education? Nah, can't have 'entitlements' and 'handouts' now, can we? :sarcasm:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 04:25 AM
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5. "conflict"---???
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:12 AM
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14. It's only 2500 for every man woman and child inthe United States
by my numbers. 700B / 280M
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 05:16 AM
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6. Cheney wants to be a trillionaire
The DoD should take offense to being robbed blind (i.e. there are signs of other problems).
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 07:56 AM
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7. kick
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 08:02 AM
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9. math doesn't work
$314B in 3 years - $450B for 10 more years.

Nope - not buying.

Try using $1 TRILLION for the next ten years.

The cost for the conflicts (?) are not winding down - they are racheting up.

Are they calculating anything in for the medical costs of the returning maimed and PTSD cases?

Are they calculating the cost of replacing the Humvees that are being blown apart on every inch of Iraqi sand?

Wear and tear on equipment, loss of military lives, destroyed futures, "rebuilding" costs?

Nope. Still not buying a reduced cost per year for the next ten years when the numbnuts in charge say that the "War on Terra" will continue indefinitely.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:07 AM
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12. Yes, the math does not work. Trillion is more like.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 06:40 PM
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22. Yep. They are MINIMIZING the costs
Its ticking along at $5 billion a month right now.


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sidpleasant Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 08:09 AM
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10. That can't be right
Paul Wolfowitz told us that the invasion would only cost about $1 billion, and that Iraq's oil revenues would pay for the reconstruction. I can't believe that a distinguished public servant like the former deputy secretary of defense would mislead the American people. :sarcasm:
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 10:43 AM
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16. So I'm not the only one
who remembers what a bargain this war was supposed to be for us. It was actually going to pay for itself, no?
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 05:22 PM
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18. i love your name
welcome.

yes. 1 billion. 6 days. 6 weeks. i doubt 6 months. One thing's for sure though, once they start greeting us with flowers we'll know all the saddam-loyalists, fedayeen, republican-guards, n dead-enders have had enough freedom-hating - and they will get to the work of building schools, fountains, amusement parks and strip malls - and Iraq will become a beacon of peace and prosperity that will be the envy of all humankind for all of eternity.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 08:22 AM
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11. Why do I get the feeling this will hit 13 figures
by the time its all said and done?
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:11 AM
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13. kick
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:26 AM
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15. Is Osama bleeds us to death--will * be is 'unlikely' accomplice?
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 06:27 PM
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19. $2 billion a week for international water and sewer development ..
.. would have created enormous good will: but the money we're pissing money away for an unnecessary war is effectively recruiting a new generation of terrorists.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 06:29 PM
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20. 1 trillion is the goal.
Billions are still too measurable.
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Barkley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 06:30 PM
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21. Would the Iraqis spend $700 billion to 'liberate' America?
Edited on Mon Jul-25-05 06:30 PM by Barkley
I don't think so!
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