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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 08:47 AM
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(CA) Governor losing Hispanic support
Monday, July 25, 2005

Governor losing Hispanic support

Minority members cite poor outreach and remarks against illegal migrants as poll ratings drop.

By MARTIN WISCKOL
The Orange County Register

Few had better reason to celebrate Arnold Schwarzenegger's 2003 election victory than Republican Manny Padilla.

Not only did the North Tustin resident get someone from his own party in the state's highest office, but Padilla's job as Orange County GOP Hispanic outreach chief got easier. California Hispanics traditionally avoid Republicans in the polls, but Schwarzenegger parlayed his popularity in the Hispanic community and got about one-third of its votes - a relatively high number.

Republicans suddenly found a new level of receptiveness among Hispanics. But that support is evaporating, and Padilla is among the critics.

The complaints include comments against illegal immigrants Schwarzenegger has made in recent months, the lack of high- level appointments of Hispanics, the lack of diplomacy with Mexico and his veto of a measure that would allow illegal immigrants to get driver's licenses.

More..

http://www.ocregister.com/ocr/2005/07/25/sections/news/news/article_609662.php
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 08:51 AM
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1. Hispanics were fooled by the glitter of the Terminator
They didn't realize that they were the ones that he wanted to terminate.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 04:58 PM
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16. yep and all of us got groped
by herr boobengroper and enron. Maybe it will help the Hispanics understand what real politics are all about...food, water and housing.
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 05:08 PM
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17. LOL! n/t
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 08:51 AM
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2. Hasta la vista, baby
somebody had to post it
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 08:56 AM
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3. LOL n/t
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 08:58 AM
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5. LOL: Perfect
:rofl:
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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 08:57 AM
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4. It was easy for him as an immigrant...
but now he can just brush aside the issue, or at least he thinks he can...will my fellow Californians allow him to get away with it? We'll know soon enough
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:35 AM
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7. There's a word for those who get in the door
and then slam it shut behind them:

Asshat!!!!
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 12:36 PM
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12. Same as Condi Rice
riding the coattails of Affirmative Action...then proceeding to close the door on the fingers of the other minorities that are just as bright and just as deserving.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 06:33 PM
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18. And Clarence Thomas n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 06:45 PM
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22. More so. n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 06:44 PM
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21. I have another one..
ASSWIPE!!!!


But I can't get mine as big as yours :)
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 06:56 PM
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26. Try this
Replacing the curly brackets with square ones:


{font size=24 pt}ASSWIPE!!!!{/font}
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 07:17 PM
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28. I was hoping you would tell me! Thanks, alarcoeg!
ASSWIPE!!!!

WOW!!!!
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:19 AM
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6. Maybe a CA visit by the chimp would help the gropinator...
Bwahahahahahaha!

Two of his ballot propositions have been pulled from the special election, and the election itself may get cancelled.

The only support he has left is a small bunch of stupid repuke white guys with dollar signs in their eyes.
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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 12:18 PM
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8. I know of the redistricting proposition being pull, what was the 2nd?
:shrug:
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 01:19 PM
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15. Here:
Edited on Mon Jul-25-05 01:21 PM by calimary
From an article titled "GOVERNOR IN RETREAT" :D :D :D :D in the San Francisco Chronicle :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast:

(snip)
Schwarzenegger's "Year of Reform'' agenda has grown progressively narrower throughout the year.
He abandoned a plan to change public pensions amid criticism from law- enforcement unions. An initial idea to change the way teachers were paid has morphed into a much narrower education reform, which would increase the time it takes teachers to get tenure.
And in Thursday's court decision, Judge Gail Ohanesian ruled that backers of the redistricting initiative turned in a different version of the initiative than the one voters saw when they signed petitions to put the issue on the ballot. Lawyers for the initiative plan on going to the state Court of Appeal on Monday.
2nd measure disqualified
On Friday, an appeals court disqualified another initiative, Proposition 80, from the November ballot. Consumer groups were backing the measure that is intended to re-regulate the state's electricity markets. Schwarzenegger had yet to take a position on the measure, but its disappearance from the ballot could bolster the argument that a special election should be called off.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/07/23/MNGGRDSN181.DTL
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 06:47 PM
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23. Thank you, calimary!
Good news!..for us.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 12:20 PM
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9. good but the Dem Party had better jump fast and with a better
framing of problems and solutions. These same people were disillusioned with Gray Davis.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 12:24 PM
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10. Let's all help perpetuate the core myth about Hispanics in California
That they are all of one mind. Precisely the kind of thinking that cost Gray Davis his job and helped to ensure that Cruz Bustamante could not be elected as replacement Governor when Davis was ousted.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 06:37 PM
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19. But then you have Antonio Villaraigosa
Not sure how this fits into Cruz Bustamante, though..

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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 12:26 PM
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11. Always new my Mex. bros and sisters would wake up and smell the churros..
Mexicans can smell bullshit politicos a mile away... their history is full of them.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 12:50 PM
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13. So, tough guy macho male worship isn't enough, huh?
All societies have problems, but the dewy-eyed worship of strong men is the bane of Hispanic culture. Don't like hearing this? Bummer.

Strutting power-males only benefit one constituency: thugs. They sustain themselves from the loyalty of the weak and pathetic.

Many groups share the guilt of the recall, including wimpy liberal males who were intoxicated with the cult of the individual. Still, the bloc of Hispanic men who creamed their jeans at the sight of this bohunk of a MAN deserve some recrimination. Arnold's appeal was nothing short of the wishful thinking of wimps wanting to identify with power. It's disgusting.

May he get his nazi ass kicked.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 12:51 PM
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14. Oops.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 06:40 PM
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20. And why the frick he ever had it
is way beyond me..but to be fair..the "shovelnator" did make some mighty big promises, did he not?
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 06:47 PM
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24. Like Hitler and GW, Arnold made lots of huge promises.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 06:50 PM
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25. Ahhhhh, don't be a little girleyman, take it on the chin like a man.
Hoodwinked like the rest.
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beltanefauve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 07:01 PM
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27. Hmmm...
The article took a swipe at the unions in two places:

"Schwarzenegger has been losing backers across the board this year, in part because of a union- backed ad campaign attacking his education policy."
and,
"Irvine's Dick Ackerman, the state Senate's Republican leader, brushed aside concerns that Schwarzenegger is alienating Hispanics. Although the decline in Hispanic support is greater than that of voters at large, Ackerman believes it is primarily because of the union ads attacking Schwarzenegger."

Oh, so it's those baaaad unions and their smear campaign that are making Latinos lose support for Ahnold? Wouldn't have anything to do with Ahnold himself, would it?

And why would those ads supposedly cause a greater decline in support among Latinos than upon voters at large? What is the implication here?

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