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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:38 PM
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Reporter Finds U.S. Sniper in Iraq Who Shot Knight Ridder Correspondent
Edited on Wed Jul-27-05 02:58 PM by Barrett808
Reporter Finds U.S. Sniper in Iraq Who Shot Knight Ridder Correspondent
By Greg Mitchell

(July 27, 2005) -- One of the most remarkable stories of the Iraq war appears today at the online magazine Salon, written by its longtime foreign correspondent Phillip Robertson. Amazingly, he managed this month to track down the American sniper who apparently shot and killed Knight Ridder correspondent Yasser Salihee, 33, on June 24. The article, "The Victim and the Killer," chronicles this search, and lengthy exchanges between Robertson and the sniper, described only as "Joe."

E&P has covered the Salihee incident from the start, first with a news report, then a moving tribute to him written by Knight Ridder's Baghdad chief Hannah Allam, which drew wide reader response. Salihee, a physican who had worked for KR for more than a year, was accidentally shot, on his day off, while driving his car in what seemed like a haphazard manner, wrongly suspected by American soldiers of being a suicide bomber.

Robertson, who had met Salihee, decided to search for the unidentified sniper himself. This seemed like a long shot, at best, as the U.S. military won't comment on civilian casualties in general, let alone in particular, and certainly not put any journalist in contact with a suspected shooter. But this did not stop Robertson, who has filed dozens of stories from Iraq and Afghanistan for Salon since 2001.

Steve Butler, Knight Ridder's foreign editor, who said he read Salon story today "very carefully," told E&P: "We've been talking to the military in Baghdad and they are preparing an investigation. We would like the report of that investigation to be made public. It could be that this interview with the sniper is the only record we will have."

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http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/columns/pressingissues_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000998748



Here's the Salon story:

The victim and the killer

Yasser Salihee was an Iraqi journalist. Joe was an American sniper. On June 24, 2005, fate brought them together on a Baghdad street.

By Phillip Robertson

July 27, 2005 | BAGHDAD, Iraq -- In the Sunni neighborhood of Amariyah in west Baghdad on June 24, a 33-year-old Iraqi man named Yasser Salihee was driving alone as he approached a small number of soldiers from a mixed U.S. and Iraqi patrol. Salihee was driving west. It was midday and most of the soldiers in the patrol had just entered a four-story building on the south side of the street to search for suspected insurgents on the roof. A few stayed down on the street to provide security. On the north side of the street stood two U.S. snipers; across the street an American from the same unit and at least one Iraqi soldier were posted. The street was left open to traffic: The patrol had not blocked off the street with cones and concertina wire, as they normally would for a cordon and search operation. The soldiers decided to stop cars by standing in the street and aiming their rifles at the drivers.

As Salihee approached the patrol from the east, another car was turning around in front of him. He began to drive around it to the right. Exactly what happened next is in dispute. What is certain is that as Salihee went around the car, the two U.S. snipers, thinking he was a suicide bomber, opened fire. At least four rounds were fired. One blew out the car's right front tire; another ricocheted off the ground and pierced the gas tank. The final 7.62 millimeter round pierced the driver's side of the windshield, entering Salihee's right eye and shattering his skull. Salihee died instantly.

The American troops left the car in the street and moved to a different position. An hour after the shooting, an Iraqi policeman found Salihee's phone and called his wife, Raghad. Raghad arrived at the scene and found her husband's body still slumped in the car, and she called an ambulance. Then she sat down on the curb and wept.

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http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/07/27/sniper/



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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:44 PM
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1. Woah.
'If I'd seen his hands up, no way would I have fired a shot. We didn't murder him. No way was it murder,' Joe said. But there was desperation in his voice, as if he wasn't sure."

I always thought this was shady. But look at insight there, into the actuall emotional state of the person involved. Wow.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:47 PM
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3. And how about that sniper?
Fires four shots at a moving vehicle. Hits a tire, the gas tank, and then gets the driver through his right eye, killing him instantly.

I think this incident is atrocious, but it nevertheless illustrates why you want to avoid clashes with U.S. troops -- they're really, really good at shooting stuff.
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:49 PM
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6. It also said his fingers were missing
I wonder what angle the shot hit them. I'd bet they weren't on the steering wheel
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:51 PM
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8. well if he got shot in the head...
For his fingers to be blown off, the sniper would have had to underground for the angle to be possible. It was at best a big screw up on the soldiers part, like he got spooked over nothing. At worst, it was very bad.
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:01 PM
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10. Maybe his hands were on his head?
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:09 PM
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12. Read the whole story.
It seems likely that his hands were raised. So the bullet passed through his fingers and then into his eye, shattering his skull. It's certainly plausible. One-in-a-million shot, but possible.
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:38 PM
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22. I did read the whole story
and it says "it seems likely" it doesn't say they were. The soldier said his hands weren't raised.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:54 PM
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26. Sorry, Oreo!
I was responding to post #8.
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 04:08 PM
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31. No problem
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 07:02 PM
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39. whether his hands were raised is immaterial....
He was innocent of any wrong doing. Just a guy, not doing anything threatening, driving down the street to pick up his daughter. Do you drive with your hands raised? I typically don't. Would that make my murder justifiable?
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:57 PM
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29. I did: The sniper said his hands weren't raised.
"I was shooting to disable when he swerved around the other car," Joe told him. "He was going more than 20 miles an hour. We aren't used to seeing someone drive that fast." Joe claimed that Salihee should have seen the soldiers and stopped, even before they allegedly fired warning shots, but he never even raised his hands off the wheel in surrender.

so the snipers accout appears to be false.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:58 PM
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30. not unusual at all, the article identified him as a sniper
so he was almost certainly using the M-24 SWS.
It said there were warning shots fired, so he probably ducked his head and raised his hands in a defensive reflex, the round is going 3000 - 3500 fps, so it wouldn't even have to hit to take off fingers.
shit.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 04:09 PM
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32. Yeah, Its a big round too, the .308, bigger than m16 rounds. n/t
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:55 PM
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27. Well sure. But the point is they weren't on the wheel.
Which is where they would have to be if he were driving and swerving around as the sniper says.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:32 PM
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19. "was accidentally shot'
"Accidentally shot?" Snipers don't 'accidentally' shoot; they shoot deliberately. Simply rhetoric used to soften the facts.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:05 PM
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38. Simplified language
The sniper's target was improperly selected.
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:46 PM
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2. I can see Scarborough now...
Edited on Wed Jul-27-05 02:48 PM by Oreo
He'd read this:
Robertson's story closes: "Before I left Joe at his company headquarters at Camp Victory, he said he wanted to tell the Salihee family he was sorry and that he'd never had to fire to stop a car before the 24th of June. 'If I'd seen his hands up, no way would I have fired a shot. We didn't murder him. No way was it murder,' Joe said. But there was desperation in his voice, as if he wasn't sure."
Then say: This sniper is ruined now because of this traitor journalist.
He'll never be able to shoot a man again.

The right doesn't look at the soldiers as real people. They're only cannon fodder and pawns for their political gain.

Very sad story. The soldiers there are in a no win situation and when and if this ends, there are going to be thousands and thousands of messed up vets that will need decades of rehabilitation.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:49 PM
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5. violence is a twin tragedy.
I agree with what you say about the messed up vets needing the rehab, but I feel compelled whenever I hear somebody say it to mention the rehab and recovery the wife and little boy of the victim will need!
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:50 PM
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7. Absolutely...
just more victims to the incredible mess that bush llied our way into
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:03 PM
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11. One might think
that educated people would realize the damage done to those who survive. Educated people may try harder not to start un-needed wars.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:14 PM
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13. Educated people who posess MORALS and DECENCY do both those things.
But in a society which elevates its GREEDIEST and
most IMMORAL citizens to the positions of power...meh.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:23 PM
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16. And gives them promotions and raises the more greedy and immoral
they get.

What a fucked up world we live in.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 09:54 PM
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44. Amen..
... there are no winners here. The sniper lives, but he most likely lives with the knowledge that his split-second error will haunt him forever.

No winners here, none at all.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:37 PM
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21. Some snipers get a thrill with the
kill. Some describe it as being "exhilarating".
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:56 PM
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28. Not only soldiers, we are ALL
HUMAN RESOURCES to do their bidding..
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 07:10 PM
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40. "no way was it murder..."
Then I wonder what it was. I mean, it wasn't self defense, it wasn't justifiable homicide (unless just being alive in Iraq is sufficient justification). Salihee was completely innocent of any crime. He was just returning home to pick up his daughter. Of course it was murder-- I mean, if I go out into the street outside my office, right now, and pick someone driving by, and shoot them, what would it be called? Murder, no question.

I think this sniper deserves exactly the same chance at rehabilitation most murderers get in America, which is to say, very little. That's unfortunate-- I'd like to see that changed-- but in the mean time, this guy belongs behind bars, IMO.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:48 PM
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4. Wow
That was the most interesting article I have read in a long time.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:52 PM
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9. Are you really Amish? nt
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:33 PM
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20. Nah.
It is a tribute
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:16 PM
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14. Tragic to say the least
very sad story.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:19 PM
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15. This quote made me cry....
"I hope he was a bad guy."

Damn.

Poor fucker. I know just how he feels. I still wonder if the Cambodian kid I shot through the head was good or bad, if he had a sense of humor, or problems with his father.

He was maybe 15, and that was 33 years ago.

I still wonder.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:26 PM
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17. He was probably all of those things.
Sorry for your ghosts. War makes some people richer, some people dead and a lot of people haunted.
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:26 PM
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18. I have read I don't know how many thousands of posts on DU,
but this is the one that makes me wish I knew how to pray.

Sorry, sorry, sorry.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:45 PM
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24. How many more incidents similar to this are never reported?
My guess is at least hundreds. As long as the U.S. Occupation continues there will be deaths, maiming and destruction directly caused by the U.S.

If the U.S. withdrew a large portion of the troops as is being now reported and these troops stayed on the bases out of harm's way my guess is that the Iraq debacle would be background news. I believe that most Amerikans really don't care much about Iraqi deaths &/or maiming. If the Amerikan death toll was slight the concern would be slight.

Now that the Bush Regime has cleverly changed their slogan from "War On Terror" to "The struggle against violent extremists" the perception that there is no more full out War will diminish. No War. No War Crimes. No protest against War.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 04:27 PM
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34. Well, we know the Baghdad morgue is receiving 30 new bodies a day
Overflowing morgue testament to Iraq's mayhem
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1657569&mesg_id=1657569

Every day, around 30 new bodies arrive, the latest victims of a two-year wave of war, crime and insurgency that has left coroners struggling to keep up with the chaos.

...

"Before the war we used to get maybe 250 bodies a month. Now it is 800 or 900 a month from the Baghdad area alone," says Baker, who trained at Guy's Hospital in London and has overseen operations at the morgue for the past 15 years.

"The situation has worsened dramatically. We cannot cope."

..

The situation in Baghdad has grown so bad that corpses not claimed from the morgue after a few weeks are now being buried in makeshift graves to make room for new arrivals.

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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 09:38 PM
Response to Reply #34
42. So at this rate, how long will it take us
to catch up with Saddam's death toll?

New math at its finest.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:05 AM
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45. Juan Cole calculates that we've already exceeded Saddam's kill rate
What the total number will be...depends on how long the occupation lasts.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:51 PM
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25. FREEDOM IS ON THE MARCH
</SARCASM>

Every dead Iraqi murdered by the US thugs is a symbol of revenge for his/her family

BTW these are the people "SPREADING FLOWER PETALS" at the feet of the rustics as they drive by in their armored cars
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malmapus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:38 PM
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23. The ghosts we live with bro

I have a similar experiece different time though, 12 years ago. But after the fact, I keep replaying it all in my mind, asking myself if he was just at the wrong place at the wrong time. But at the time I had to make the decision for myself and my buddies sake.

But yeah, that shit stays with you forever, clear as the time it happened.

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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 07:14 PM
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41. damn-- just damn....
I wish you peace, my friend.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 04:17 PM
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33. we gave them our good sons and daughers
and they are sending us back killers. Damn Bush to Hell
IMPEACH BUSH AND SEND HIM TO THE HAGUE
:mad:
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 04:33 PM
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35. This is why the Nuremburg trials stated that the crime is starting the war
an aggressive war because all atrocities of war stem from the fact that a war was started. This is why bush** should be impeached..and tried for war crimes. All crimes that have been commited in this war is a result of the aggressive war bush** started!
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 04:41 PM
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36. Bravo. Excellent job. Finest investigative report I have seen in years.
Granted, its not a show stopper but its REPORTING! The real thing.

Not the sniveling, regurgitated WH talking points that we see every blessed day.

I am subscribing to Salon right now,,,,,,,,,,,
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speedingbullet Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 04:55 PM
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37. Tragic on so many levels
They aren't used to traffic moving that fast (20 mph). Sounds like we are bringing great progress to our Iraqi friends.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 09:45 PM
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43. Of course,
Edited on Wed Jul-27-05 09:59 PM by tblue37
if the troops had bothered to block off that fourth street, then the Iraqi doctor/journalist would never have been driving down it and neither would the car that was trying to turn around in front of him.

This business of throwing up temporary roadblocks at a moment's notice is confusing enough for the Iraqis, but when the roadbloacks don't close off all approaches, then that makes them death traps of the worst sort.
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