Karen Hughes refused to answer questions re: Plame outing during confirm.

[Roland99]

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Karen_Hughes_refused_to_answer_questions_about_Plame_outing_during_confirmation_he_0727.html

Senior Bush adviser Karen Hughes, headed to confirmation in the full Senate for the State Department's top public relations post, provided a terse two sentence answer to questions submitted by Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) about her role and knowledge about the outing of covert CIA operative Valerie Plame Wilson, RAW STORY has learned.

Kerry's line of questioning focused on whether Hughes knew Wilson was a covert operative, and whether she had ever spoken with Bush adviser Karl Rove about the agent.

Hughes response was curt: "Because of my ongoing contact with the White House, I was interviewed as part of that investigation and was happy to cooperate, as I noted in my Senate Foreign Relations Committee questionnaire. As you know, these questions relate to an ongoing criminal investigation. I believe that I should honor the prosecutor's request not to discuss this matter until he has completed his investigation."

See PDF images at RawStory.

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[barb162]

7. Yeah, BUT

I'd like to have her and Rove on the Democrat team in 2008. The GOP put up a monkey twice and won against two wonderful Democrat prez candidates.

[Fight_n_back]

22. What is a "Democrat candidate"?

I belong to the Democratic Party. The oldest political party in the world, by the way. The "Democrat Party" was in invention of Newt Gngrich to annoy members of the Democratic Party. Look at the letter head on the stationery.

[Skittles]

38. "Democrat Party" is republican whore gibberish

it is juvenile - right up there with "freedom fries"

[barb162]

51. In my part of the country it is none of these things and my usage

of it is more than acceptable and proper. Sorry if it offends

[barb162]

50. Were (are) Gore and Kerry Democrats

or Democratics.
PS I am also a member of the Democratic Party. I call myself a Democrat. Sometimes a Dem when I don't feeling like spelling it out all the way.

[barb162]

53. also

Definitions of democrat on the Web:

a member of the Democratic Party
an advocate of democratic principles
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

a person who belongs to the Democratic political party.
www.enchantedlearning.com/election/glossary.shtml


and there are many, many others that agree with my usage of "democrat"

[Igel]

54. We native English speakers have this nifty productive

grammatical process that's been variously dubbed "conversion" or "zero suffixation". It's where you take a noun and make it into something that functions as an adjective. (It's probably the same process as in German, but since they kept some declensional endings, it has to be kept separate from adjective formation in that language.)

I can build a database, and buy a "database program" to do it; I can have a cell phone, and look at the cell phone case--and then discuss the cell-phone case material. Pretty much any noun phrase that doesn't already have an adjectival form can undergo conversion--and in the last few years I've seen zero-suffixed forms actually *replace* standard adjectival forms already attested in dictionaries in some discourse.

Since we still use 'democratic' as a common adjective, but 'democrat' infrequently as a common noun, I'd expect "Democrat candidate" to win out on functional grounds over time as a less partisan formulation. "Democrat candidate" may be mostly said by repubs, but it's completely comprehensible: a candidate who is a Democrat, or a candidate of Democrats. I personally dislike "Democratic candidate" as ambiguous, and say "Democratic Party candidate" when I want to sound non-partisan in mixed company.

[barb162]

55. I just added you to my buddy list whether you like it or not

THANKS. That was a very interesting analysis and one with which I agree.

[Gabi Hayes]

32. they didn't "win" cause of them...... the only reason they won was

the corpwhorate media

the ONLY reason

never forget that; as bad as the pukes are, the media are infinitely worse

[barb162]

56. If MSM had been truly neutral, Gore and Kerry should have won

by millions of votes over the monkey

[Uncle Joe]

57. Al Gore did not lose to Bush, the American People did.

There was a coup in 2000 supported and condoned by (as another poster here so eloquently stated) the corpwhorate media. Their continous slander against Gore ever since 1998, their refusal to actually do their job and look out for the American People during the contested phase of the 2000 election, or their enabling of the corrupt/incompetent bastard in power now by using obfuscation as opposed to clarification. This has been their M.O. ever since, whether it is social security privatization, honest voter reform, the war against Iraq or the lastest example treasongate.

[SpiralHawk]

61. I would not like to have her on my team, or the team I will vote for

Honesty, integrity, caring, and respect are important to me.

[uppityperson]

16. stunt? eliphunt?

yup

[Jackpine Radical]

20. Blunt runt? Bunt?

[Chipper Chat]

1. And what did you expect from Karen Hughes?

A picnic basket full of fried chicken and sweet potato pie for Mr. Kerry? Nuhh-uhh! Just some plain ol' Texas sass.

[stepnw1f]

4. And Really Stupid Too

but hey...

[me b zola]

10. More like plain ol' Texas ass

I'm just sayin ;)

[Skittles]

39. that wasn't Texan sass

that was republican whore sass

[Fovea]

2. I believe you should speak up

or wait for your confirmation until you are cleared, or indicted.
But that's just me.

[jobycom]

8. That's exactly right. Why would either party confirm someone who's

part on an "ongoing criminal investigation." It would keep any of us from getting the job, wouldn't it?

[Roland99]

12. Well: Panel OKs Karen Hughes for State Dept

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1656840

[ashling]

35. Every damn confirmation hearing

should be put on hold if they are going to use this answer for every damn thing!!!

Q: Would you like to break so you can go to the bathroom?

A: That is the subject of an ongoing criminal investigation.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

3. The copies from Raw Story:

[Career Prole]

21. My copy's blurry...

does that say "sometimes traveling to the White House for meetings" or "meatings"?

[joemurphy]

5. In that case, Ms. Hughes, you would of course understand

our reluctance to proceed with your nomination to an ambassadorial position. Perhaps you are correct. We should all just keep quiet, wait to see if you are indicted, and then take another look at whether you still merit becoming America's spokesperson to the world.

[jobycom]

6. My favorite Karen Hughes moment involved the 2000 debate notes

that wound up at Gore's office. Anyone who knew Rove then knew immediately it was a Rove trick, but of course Karen Hughes doggedly tried to claim that it was somehow Gore's doing. So she was taking questions, and as usual she was so arrogant the media was getting annoyed.

So one brave soul asked her if she or anyone in Bush's administration had anything to do with it, and she, as she always does, jumped right on the question. "No, of course not, Governor Bush would not stoop yadayadayada."

Next question: "Would you be willing to take a lie detector test to prove it?"

I have never seen someone look so scared in my life! She just stood there, maybe five seconds, in a pure panic, then you could see her eyes as she suddenly remembered she was on camera, and she recovered and said "Of course, we would welcome the chance yadayada."

Would love to own a videotape of that moment.

[barb162]

9. But most of the time she is masterful

and comes off as very honest and down to earth and convincing as hell that Bush is the greatest prez ever. WHich is why I hate her

[jobycom]

14. Not if you live in Texas

and have been hearing her since the mid 90s. Then she sounds like a phony. Maybe it's the accent--Texans can tell it's exagerated.

[Skittles]

40. THANK YOU

she just SCREAMS phony to me

[EC]

52. Last night on Sundance they replayed the movie

Uncovered: The Truth about the Iraq War...I just watched these people one after another lieing their asses off...cannot believe people actually believed them, looking at their eyes and body language, it was so clear to me they were lying...especially ** and Hughes...

[Skittles]

65. for those of us who have never been fooled

especially those of us in Texas - it just boggles the mind

[Gidney N Cloyd]

46. Do most Texans buy *'s accent?

[jobycom]

62. Not completely. Repubs just pretend they don't notice. You do know what

he's doing with it, don't you? It's just a straight John Wayne imitation, along with the walk and the slur and all the macho stuff. Bush in real life is a little pencilneck coward. Although by now he may actually believe his accent.

[barb162]

49. Was she born in TX

[Samantha]

18. Maybe these are subjective things but I don't think so

the first time I saw her on camera and heard her speak, I couldn't believe she was a valued confidant of George W. Bush.* When things ended up as they did, I very much hoped he would not dream of bringing HER to Washington, D.C. I couldn't believe it when he did. I knew then we were in serious trouble.

[barb162]

48. I have seen her calm down controversies so many times

and get people in lock step behind her. Don't ask me what they were, I can't remember anymore but I recall it happening in his first campaign for prez. It was as if she said 2+2=5 and everyone just said oh, okay.

[jobycom]

63. She used to be a reporter. All she does is play the media

She doesn't convince them of anything, but she knows the game, and knows what they will report, and what they won't. So she plays them. They know it. Some like her, some don't, but no one really believes her.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

34. That was a classic "deer caught in headlights" moment.

You could almost make out her pupils dilating from the panic.

Thank you for reminding me of that funny memory.

[Roland99]

44. ooo...I'd *love* to see that!

[0007]

59. It was indeed a classic! Wish I had recorded the incident.

[Voltaire99]

11. Hughes: riding high on Wimpocrat support

Before we praise any tepid grilling of the rat-faced Hughes, let's remember a leading politician we all know has already fawned over her in a letter of recommendation.

"She will bring new energy and creativity to our public diplomacy efforts. I commend the president for choosing her and persuading her to return to Washington, and I look forward to working with her for the next three years on this important foreign policy priority.”

Who wrote that? Dick Cheney? Douglas Feith? Paul Wolfowitz?

Actually, it was the coal miner's son, Joe Biden.

For the full letter, see: http://thinkprogress.org/2005/07/22/excuse-me-but-do-you-enjoy-being-in-the-minority/

[Webster Green]

15. Yeah, Biden has the "Joe-mentum" thing going on...

He's a corporate tool!

He thinks Bolton is the "real deal"

[warrens]

13. She's not going to give up her chance

To finally fuck Georgie. She is going to be disappointed...he likes boys. Faghags are so deluded.

[Disturbed]

17. The Rethugs and Rethug Lites..

will all vote for her. Maybe if she cut off a kitten's head in front of them they might not.

[Pachamama]

29. Why, why would anyone, female or male ever want to boink *?

:puke: Just the visual makes me sick...

Aside from being an idiot and a chimp, he's A-sexual! But, then again, take a good hard look at the crew we are talking about: Rove, Cheney, Hughes, Rice etc...

[Im_Your_Huckleberry]

19. she reminds me of nurse ratched

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

23. I guess Kerry got the answer he wanted.

The FRC vote was unanimous.

[alfredo]

24. It doesn't matter what orfice she has when or if she

gets indicted.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

25. "Office" or "Orifice?"

Spelling actually counts in this case. :evilgrin:

[alfredo]

26. Let your mind wander.

I left the i out of orifice.

[WhiteTara]

27. in other words "of course I knew about it"

f*cking animal. Sorry that she is female, she gives us all a bad name.

[Hardrada]

42. These Bushbots make us ashamed

to be the same species, genus and order.

[demgrrrll]

28. She was "interviewed" interesting that she chose that word instead of

I was questioned. They are good at framing. Interview suggests that they had control of the situation and that she was not involved, just a little chat over tea. Is that true or was she actually questioned as part of the ongoing investigation.

[Pachamama]

30. Umm, I believe that lil interview is called a "deposition" ...

:shrug:

[Roland99]

31. Also interesting is she's copping to the "ongoing investigation" line

Not like she's part of the current administration. She's not hired, yet.

I mean, if the RNC chairman, Meelyman, can spew on and on about this case, then why can't Ms. "Normal"?

[Canuck55]

33. 'Karen'

..wears underwear with dick holes.

[Supersedeas]

47. Or is Karen wearing Scotty's McButterpants? No truth for you--on going

investigation, ya know.

[Gman]

36. So what will they say when the investigation is over?

They won't have that excuse anymore.

[Roland99]

37. It was Clinton's fault.

[WCGreen]

41. The Dems in DC should just shut down any nominations

until the on going investigation is over....

If that pursed lipped prissy is involved, then maybe the state department can get along with out a public relations hack for a few more months....

Jezzz don't these guys have any balls...
So they ask questions. Big Fucking deal....

Do something. God Damn it DO SOMETHING!!!!!!!

[Kurovski]

43. Uncharacteristically terse for Mrs. Hughes who

is usually a chattering, toothsome Jackal when it comes to explaining away all manner of bullshit.

[Roland99]

45. Rather telling, eh?

[Kurovski]

60. Oh yeah,

you know trouble's afoot when loquacious Karen sews her yammer up tight.

They haven't figured a way out of this one yet.

[area51]

58. Bzzzt!

Wrong answer (as usual), Karen.

[54anickel]

64. Big deal, meanwhile she got the rubber stamp of approval. Phffft.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/26/AR2005072601551.html


Only two senators were in the room when Karen Hughes testified at her confirmation hearings. When it came time for the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to vote on her nomination yesterday, she was easily approved. And thus with no discussion and no debate, Hughes takes over the least noticed, least respected and possibly most important job in the State Department. Her formal title is undersecretary of state for public diplomacy and public affairs. In plain English, her job is to fight anti-Americanism, promote American culture and above all to do intellectual battle with the ideology of radical Islam, a set of beliefs so powerful that they can persuade middle-class, second-generation British Muslims to blow themselves up on buses and trains.