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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 10:33 AM
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CCTV film to aid fatal shooting inquiry (of Brazilian in London)
CCTV film to aid fatal shooting inquiry

Complaints body seeks witnesses to killing of Brazilian

Sandra Laville
Saturday July 30, 2005
The Guardian

Footage from CCTV cameras in the London tube station where an innocent Brazilian man was fatally shot by police will form a key part of the independent inquiry into the killing.
One week on from the moment Jean Charles de Menezes was shot eight times in the head and shoulder by armed police in the mistaken belief that he was a suicide bomber, an appeal for witnesses was launched yesterday at Stockwell tube station in south London by the Independent Police Complaints Commission.

Although the Metropolitan police have released several CCTV pictures of the July 21 suspected bombers, no images of Mr De Menezes running into Stockwell station pursued by plainclothes officers have been made available.

Nick Hardwick, the chairman of the IPCC, told the Guardian he had all the footage in his possession and it was "very, very helpful" to the inquiry.

As he spoke family and friends of Mr De Menezes arrived at the station to lay three bunches of white lilies on a Brazilian flag beneath a picture of the 27-year-old electrician, who was chased by armed officers on to a Northern line train and shot dead.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/attackonlondon/story/0,16132,1539105,00.html
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 10:49 AM
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1. If the video shows he was wearing a denim jacket and
not a buly jacket, will the public ever get to see it?
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 11:00 AM
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3. If it is through CCTV they will see it if they captured it
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bennywhale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 06:10 PM
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11. He was wearing a fleece, which is not a particularly bulky jacket
in fact i wore one home tonight. I'm ion England its July its cold, but i wasn't shot 8 times in the face.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 10:57 AM
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2. CCTV is the Chinese cable network
They put on a very good program here in the states, and there news reports are excellent

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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 11:01 AM
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4. Umm..
I'm guessing CCTV in this instant means closed circuit television, a.k.a. security cameras.
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cire4 Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 07:06 PM
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12. Agreed....Much better than the "news" in the US
Not like its terribly difficult to be better than Faux, CNN, or MSNBC, but CCTV seems to take news much more seriously and seems to put alot less emphasis on sensationalism and entertainment. It's up there with FSTV as the best news on cable television.

Their other programs on Chinese culture, travel, and history ain't bad either.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 11:15 AM
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5. have they named the cops yet or are secret cops?
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 12:42 PM
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6. I don't think they have named the cops, yet. (nt)
nt
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 12:47 PM
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7. Cause for hope...
"The IPCC is different from its forerunners in that as well as supervising police inquiries into complaints it has its own 84 investigators who are independent of the police."
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 01:45 PM
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9. We call then Civil Review Boards in the US
if your Department does not have one, demand one
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Henny Penny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 01:26 PM
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8. Last night on the ITN news they said that the camera "may not
have been working"!

You'd think a week later they would know one way or the other...

The news reader then went on to explain that there were differing accounts of the events leading up to the shooting. She mentioned for example, that the police said the victim had vaulted the turnstiles but that the family said they had been told he used his ticket as normal!

This film would certainly clear up a few things.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 01:51 PM
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10. They don't need CCTV in regards to the jacket
I assume the jacket is in evidence at this moment, along with his other effects. They could produce it in an hour if they felt like it.
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