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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 09:37 PM
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CNN/AP: Study: Hurricanes getting stronger (global warming)
Study: Hurricanes getting stronger
Some scientists question research methods
Sunday, July 31, 2005


(AP) -- Is global warming making hurricanes more ferocious? New research suggests the answer is yes.

Scientists call the findings both surprising and "alarming" because they suggest global warming is influencing storms now -- rather than in the distant future.

However, the research doesn't suggest global warming is generating more hurricanes and typhoons.

The analysis by climatologist Kerry Emanuel of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology shows for the first time that major storms spinning in both the Atlantic and the Pacific since the 1970s have increased in duration and intensity by about 50 percent.

These trends are closely linked to increases in the average temperatures of the ocean surface and also correspond to increases in global average atmospheric temperatures during the same period....


http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/science/07/31/hurricanes.globalwrm.ap/index.html
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 09:40 PM
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1. I think they are too.
Edited on Sun Jul-31-05 09:41 PM by charlyvi
I live in central Alabama--the Gulf Coast hurricanes never used to come up this far. We would get rain, some tornado warnings, but never the actual hurricane itself. Until last year--Ivan caused most work and school to cancel for two days; this year Dennis cause them to cancel for one day. Unheard of before last year!
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 09:41 PM
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2. Duh
Higher water temperature, greater vapor deposition, deeper low pressure zones, more fuel for hurricanes.

I repeat. Duh.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 09:43 PM
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3. Calling Captain Obvious....
Warmer water results in more intense hurricaines? What will they come up with next?

I just wish they's spell out the dynamics more clearly, because the American need their information in really small, easy to understand, pieces.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 09:44 PM
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4. Seven named storms in the Atlantic/Caribbean/Gulf of Mexico.....
...before the end of July. The previous record for seven named storms was two months later, in late September.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 09:44 PM
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5. Duh! CNN/AP only report what they want people to hear.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 09:45 PM
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6. W's response
Let's limit $ to renewable energy sources and transfer billions of taxpayer dollars to fossil fuel developers. Let's allow increased logging in the great forests of the NW and do away with Clinton's road less rule. Let's drill, everywhere.

Let's ignore global warming and engage in trade with countries who believe the same way.
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 09:49 PM
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7. Cloud seeding. It's being done covertly...
Just the CIA conducting little experiments. Move on nothing to see.
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 09:56 PM
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8. Billions in federal aide for all the destruction....
but Kyoto would cost us too much money.....

makes sense to me!! :sarcasm:
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 10:00 PM
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9. Bush: We need another study to study that study.
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 10:05 PM
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10. The Wind Blows A Reality Check For Right-Wingers
I suspect that a lot of the ex-Dixiecrats who so gleefully jumped into the GOP are going to be forced to re-examine their hostility to the idea of man-made global climate change and the effects of global warming after a hurricane or three devastates their neck of the woods.

I have reached the point of despair where I think that almost nothing any sane, sensible person can say will reach your average knee-jerk right-winger. The only thing that will make some of them to re-examine their ideas is cold, hard reality.

Class Five hurricanes ought to help the getting of wisdom--provided that the right-wingers live through the process. Trouble is, the process is liable to be rough on their neighbors who have already seen the light.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 10:45 PM
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11. Unfortunately, they still will not see because
they believe that these disasters are just "signs of the end times". The worse it gets the more they believe. They will be washing out to sea and they will still be waiting for the Lord's imminent return tomorrow. They have failed to read Thessalonians.
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 06:06 AM
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17. Too True For Too Many Of Those Tom-Fools! Dang It! eom
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 10:59 PM
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12. An uneducated freeper once said...
"It snowed in Washington DC in April for three days, how is that Global warming?"

Wow.


And yes, I did explain that heat=energy which can cause more dynamic weather systems to which she replied;

"Well obviously you're no meteorologist."


:eyes:

What do you do?
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 11:09 PM
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13. Let the freeper bury herself
in her own ignorance and arrogance.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 01:11 AM
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14. next up, frequency of storms
Clearly that's going up as well.
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RONSTOO Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 01:30 AM
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15. heres some scary shit
read this


http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0427-01.htm




does anyone think this could really hurt the phyto-plankton, the bottom of the food chain ?


if the phytoplankton go, then that really hurts the food chain.
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strizi64 Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 02:11 AM
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16. No no no! No global warming, bs....
but why we have Tornados in Europe like never before? France, Great Britain, Germany, Spain, Poland and Switzerland in just two weeks, several deaths and hundreds of injureds. Denial is all over these days....
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 07:30 AM
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18. Florida and Texas and other red states seem to be bearing the brunt of
the increase in numbers and intensity of these hurricanes. I've sometimes thought it was poetic justice; although I feel terrible for the liberal/progressive/dems that live there.

What will it take for those who are prone to call environmentalists "tree huggers" to see the light? MKJ

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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 08:13 AM
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20. You state that you "feel terrible for the liberal/progressive/dems...
...that live there", but that certainly didn't stop you from posting your remarks, did it?

Why don't you try blaming the electronic voting machines? They had a lot more to do with the GOP "victories" in 2000, 2002, and 2004 than any voter in any state.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 07:56 AM
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19. Well Golly! Who'd have guessed??? (NT)
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 02:07 PM
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21. Global warming should more correctly be called climate change.
That is harder to deny when you are living in the middle of it. Drought in the west, hurricanes in the south. Soon they will see that things are changing. It will really hit them when bushie cuts FETA spending so he can continue his wars.
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 03:03 PM
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22. I think you mean FEMA, other than that, I agree with your post...
Edited on Mon Aug-01-05 03:03 PM by Solon
Global Climate Change is beginning to threaten the breadbasket of the world, the U.S. Midwestern Plains, along with aquifers and reservoirs not being refilled by rainfall and melt waters, that means many cities in the West are going to go have freshwater rationing and other bad things, including lack of adequate irrigation waters as well. This is without mentioning the shit we dump into major waterways and streams to begin with, increasing the cost of filtering them for animal(human too) consumption.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 03:19 PM
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23. no matter once we eat the midwest
we'll eat the amazon, it is being converted to soy at record pace

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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 05:49 PM
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24. Don't make me laugh...
First, the soil underneath the largest rainforest on the planet is pardon the pun, dirt poor at being used for crops. This means MORE petrochemicals used to maintain even a minimal yield per square acre of land versus the relatively fertile plains of the United States. NOTE: with Peak Oil here now, that means that in the near future, those petrochemicals are going to get enormously more expensive, and harder to acquire. Second, the climate there isn't exactly ideal for many crops, though it is for others. Thirdly, if we turn that entire area to soy production, who would think that was a good idea, potato famine ring a bell? Last thing we need is to encourage monoculture of crops, diversification helps, not conformity.
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