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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 08:42 AM
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Dad: Marine felt mission 'a bit fruitless' (insurgents always returned)
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http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/04/marines.reax/index.html

Dad: Marine felt mission 'a bit fruitless'
Schroeder was one of 21 Marines killed in Iraq; 13 from Ohio

CNN) -- The father of one of the Marines killed this week in Iraq said his son felt the U.S. mission was "a bit fruitless," because insurgents always returned after the military flushed them out.

"Every operation would be a week or two out in the field at some loss of life or at least wounded," said Paul Schroeder, father of 23-year-old Lance Cpl. Edward Schroeder II, who died Wednesday.

"And then they would leave, and then the insurgents would come back. And, obviously, they were back in Haditha, which was supposedly cleared out in Operation Newmarket in early June.

"The insurgents were back in Haditha yesterday. And his vehicle, unfortunately, hit -- struck a roadside bomb," the father told CNN Thursday from Ohio.
"So his comment to us about it was becoming less and less worthwhile, I think -- I took to mean that he was seeing that this was a bit fruitless."

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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 08:44 AM
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1. Any Vietnam Vet would tell you
the same thing about that War.

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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 08:51 AM
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7. Yup its IRAQ-NAM
The same tricks that work in any Guerrilla War.

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Ernesto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 01:06 PM
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18. Bingo saigon!
It's just a shame that we are lead by a crowd of chickenhawks who have never known war.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 08:44 AM
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2. 40 years later
Same story, same results. More useless, needless casualties for nothing.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 08:45 AM
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3. of course they're back, they fucking live there.
millions of em, on all four sides - to quote the Firesign Theatre.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 08:53 AM
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8. LOL
An obvious point that gets missed by the punditocracy.

(pssst. they don't want us there)
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:05 AM
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12. fst
Edited on Fri Aug-05-05 11:06 AM by grytpype
It's the Planter's Moon tonight... all them gooks are gonna be out wadin in the patties!
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 08:45 AM
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4. Didn't CNN get their morning talking points? They aren't supposed to
discuss the war, much less how soldiers feel about fighting in Iraq. Isn't there a blonde white girl in trouble somewhere that they could be focusing on? Or, how about the space shuttle??

:P
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 01:12 PM
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19. Or hows 'bout a shark attack, or someone killed by lightning??
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 08:46 AM
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5. RIP....


:cry:
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 08:50 AM
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6. This is so sad
Because of 9/11 we invade a country that had nothing to do w/ 9/11
to look for weapons that were not there and fight for ground just to
give it back to the same people we fought w/.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 08:55 AM
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9. "fruitles"---yes, I head him say this cable TV--lets hope lots of ppl
were listening.
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 10:40 AM
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10. "give it back to the same people we fought w/."
Edited on Fri Aug-05-05 10:41 AM by GreenArrow
Except the oil wells. Don't forget the oil wells. And the Military bases; gotta include those too.
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 10:44 AM
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11. Occupying a country is nearly impossible long-term
Particularly if you were too stupid to guard ammo dumps because you were too busy nailing down the Oil Ministry.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:06 AM
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13. Oh, but we're making progress, the insurgency is in its throes --
long-term throes. There's light at the end of the tunnel.

And suicide bombings are way down BOOOOOM
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no_to_war_economy Donating Member (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:18 AM
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14. i don't think Vietnam turned until
the veterans spoke out and marched against the war

when are the Iraq veterans gonna throw back their medals



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ticapnews Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:48 AM
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15. The insurgents just have to leave to get more flowers, then come back
to give them to our soldiers.

These insurgents are just so misunderstood, aren't they Mr. Wolfowitz?

In fact, as of today these insurgents have delivered flowers to (officially) 15017 of our soldiers. Sadly, 1828 soldiers apparently had an allergic reaction to the flowers, or something, and died. :sarcasm:

:cry: :nuke:
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 12:36 PM
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16. So, what is the military objective in Iraq?
What is the "job" that bush is going to finish?
How long would it take before "insurgents" dismantled any form of government that we might install over there?
I think that place out Vietnams Vietnam.
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ticapnews Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 12:44 PM
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17. We have to pump as much oil as possible..
and get the oil out of the ground before our soldiers all die in fireballs. The job might not take as long as they think, because there isn't as much oil as everyone hoped. Once all the oil is gone, who the hell cares what kind of government the brown people install? Just look at Africa: They have no oil + they aren't white = Who Gives a Cheney?

Personally, I think that's bull Novak, but that's a 45-second primer on US foreign policy in the 21st century.

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