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Caleb Donating Member (251 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 12:01 AM
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WP: War Plans Drafted To Counter Terror Attacks in U.S.
War Plans Drafted To Counter Terror Attacks in U.S.
Domestic Effort Is Big Shift for Military

By Bradley Graham
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, August 8, 2005; Page A01


COLORADO SPRINGS -- The U.S. military has devised its first-ever war plans for guarding against and responding to terrorist attacks in the United States, envisioning 15 potential crisis scenarios and anticipating several simultaneous strikes around the country, according to officers who drafted the plans.

The classified plans, developed here at Northern Command headquarters, outline a variety of possible roles for quick-reaction forces estimated at as many as 3,000 ground troops per attack, a number that could easily grow depending on the extent of the damage and the abilities of civilian response teams.

The possible scenarios range from "low end," relatively modest crowd-control missions to "high-end," full-scale disaster management after catastrophic attacks such as the release of a deadly biological agent or the explosion of a radiological device, several officers said.

Some of the worst-case scenarios involve three attacks at the same time, in keeping with a Pentagon directive earlier this year ordering Northcom, as the command is called, to plan for multiple simultaneous attacks.

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Joebert Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 12:14 AM
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1. Is this how we officially become a police state?
My question, when do the troops we've trained in other countries or used as mercenaries in Iraq get deployed inside the country?
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 12:17 AM
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2. I get nervous when I hear the Pentagon is planning contingencies.
seems that AQ has a habit of taking advantage of them.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 12:18 AM
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3. Isn't this what our National Guard is SUPPOSED to be
used for and the ARMY/MARINES/AIR FORCE/NAVY are for fighting wars in other countries?
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 12:30 AM
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4. I Know This Is Trite -- But We Are So Fucked
This story does not have a happy ending.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:02 AM
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66. My sentiments exactly, Tace.
Something BIG has got to happen to get these assholes OUT of power, and it has to happen FAST.

:cry: I can't take it anymore! I want my country back!

:kick:
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 12:32 AM
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5. But fighting them over there keeps them away from us over here.
Dear Leader told us so.
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 12:37 AM
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6. Hmmm...just guessing....
locations will be determined by DU's membership list?...
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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 12:45 AM
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7. I see this as being illegal and quite frightening!
Posse Comitatus Act of 1878.

We don't need U.S. troops being deployed on the ground within our borders!

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 12:50 AM
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8. Britain seems to have managed ok with the police force
I rather doubt that there will be regiments of terrorists attacking St. Louis, or anything like that. Unless there is an awfully good reason, these things are probably best left as criminal matters.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 12:54 AM
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9. Guard units might begin rounding up people while regular forces could not"
"It could be a challenge for the commander who's a Guardsman, if we end up in a fairly complex, dynamic scenario," Keating said. He cited a potential situation in which Guard units might begin rounding up people while regular forces could not."

that sure doesn't sound good... we'll they start with DU or FR :scared:

peace
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 05:52 PM
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23. kick
peace
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:38 AM
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10. U.S. drafts war plans in case of terror attack
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/3300231

Report lists 15 scenarios that could happen on home soil
By BRADLEY GRAHAM
Washington Post

COLORADO SPRINGS, COLO. - The U.S. military has devised its first-ever war plans for guarding against and responding to terrorist attacks in the United States, envisioning 15 potential crisis scenarios and anticipating simultaneous strikes around the country, according to officers who drafted the plans.

ADVERTISEMENT

The classified plans, developed at Northern Command headquarters, outline a variety of roles for quick-reaction forces estimated at 3,000 ground troops per attack, a number that could grow depending on the extent of the damage and the abilities of civilian response teams.

The scenarios range from "low-end," relatively modest crowd-control missions to "high-end," full-scale disaster management after catastrophic attacks, such as the release of a deadly biological agent or the explosion of a radiological device, officers said.

Some of the worst-case scenarios involve three simultaneous attacks.

The war plans represent a historic shift for the Pentagon, which has been reluctant to become involved in domestic operations and is legally constrained from engaging in law enforcement. Indeed, defense officials continue to stress that they intend for the troops to play largely a supporting role in homeland emergencies, bolstering police, firefighters and other civilian response groups.

more...

Notice the Military takes over the country here!!!
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:38 AM
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11. One good nuke under the Capital and we have a dictatorship
under Cheney's shadow government, at least until the states can choose new legislators. Even after they do, Cheney could refuse to give up control for a while. Taking out the media and creating confusion could prolong the dictatorship indefinitely.

It's a sad day when I am more afraid of our leaders than of enemy nations. BushCo wouldn't even have to create the attacks, they could just create a hole through which someone else could attack.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:38 AM
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16. "At least until the states can choose new legislators"
Would that be through the new and improved electronic voting machines?
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:38 AM
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19. Nothing so Democratic
As far as I know, most state legislatures, or even the governors, can opt to appoint someone to fill a vacancy for the remainder of the term. So it would be an appointed Congress, more than likely, until the next election cycle. With all the ensuing chaos, an election or two could be postponed, or cancelled. It would be a different world.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:38 AM
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12. How Comforting
:sarcasm:
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:38 AM
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13. So many of our first responders are also in the National Guard...
...and of course they are not here where they could do the most good in case of attacks like these. They're also not here to respond to natural disasters, either. So I guess it makes it easier for the Bushites to consider sending in the Marines to US communities, doesn't it? We're just screwed all the way around, aren't we?

It does make sense for our government to plan for worst-case scenarios, but my mistrust of the Bushites is such that I find it quite unsettling how far up the list of potential responses martial law is.

Hekate
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:38 AM
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14. Such tasks have always been under the control...
... of the individual state governors and the National Guard. So, now that the National Guard is out of the country being the active duty army, we have the active duty army at home behaving like the National Guard.

Anyone see the very slight but clear oddity implicit in this? Anyone wonder why this might be?


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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:38 AM
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15. dupe
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:38 AM
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17. Here we go & REC!
"But the new plans provide for the likelihood that the military will have to take charge in some situations, especially when dealing with mass-casualty attacks that could overwhelm civilian resources."
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 04:38 AM
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18. Steps away from indictments, it must the next idea Cheney has .
Edited on Mon Aug-08-05 02:30 AM by shance
Time to get on the phone and pass this out to friends and family.

This country will not become a military state because of the crimes of Cheney and Bush.



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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 05:53 AM
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20. This looks like a variation of a Frank Gaffney plan about four
...years ago which called for using active duty forces to quell inevitable civil disturbances in American urban areas. He called for extensive training for American ground forces in urban combat. These disturbances were expected to arise from economic and social issues, not terrorism. The posse commitatus issue has been resolved apparently by the ubiquitous terrorism bogeyman.

This plan wasn't left on Gaffney's web site very long. The neo-con generated plan pre-dated the terrorism issue.

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moodforaday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:21 AM
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22. Something like this maybe?
I posted this back in July:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4161423

(Disclaimer: Alex Jones *is* a nutcase. But documentary footage is - well, documentary footage.)

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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:50 AM
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65. has anyone recovered that plan document from the memory hole?
That would be interesting to see.
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moodforaday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 08:14 AM
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21. kick (n/t)
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 06:01 PM
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24. Sh*t, and in response to ANY terrorist attack here, Cheney has set
the machine in motion to nuke Iran. Is it time for a MIHOP? :tinfoilhat:

snip>

Indeed, there are good reasons for U.S. military commanders to be 'horrified' at the prospects of attacking Iran. In the December 2004 issue of the Atlantic Monthly, James Fallows reported that numerous high-level war-gaming sessions had recently been completed by Sam Gardiner, a retired Air Force colonel who has run war games at the National War College for the past two decades.<9> Col. Gardiner summarized the outcome of these war games with this statement, "After all this effort, I am left with two simple sentences for policymakers: You have no military solution for the issues of Iran. And you have to make diplomacy work." Despite Col. Gardiner's warnings, yet another story appeared in early 2005 that reiterated this administration's intentions towards Iran. Investigative reporter Seymour Hersh's article in The New Yorker included interviews with various high-level U.S. intelligence sources. Hersh wrote:

In my interviews , I was repeatedly told that the next strategic target was Iran. Everyone is saying, 'You can't be serious about targeting Iran. Look at Iraq,' the former intelligence official told me. But the say, 'We've got some lessons learned – not militarily, but how we did it politically. We're not going to rely on agency pissants.' No loose ends, and that's why the C.I.A. is out of there. <10>

The most recent, and by far the most troubling, was an article in The American Conservative by intelligence analyst Philip Giraldi. His article, "In Case of Emergency, Nuke Iran," suggested the resurrection of active U.S. military planning against Iran – but with the shocking disclosure that in the event of another 9/11-type terrorist attack on U.S. soil, Vice President Dick Cheney's office wants the Pentagon to be prepared to launch a potential tactical nuclear attack on Iran – even if the Iranian government was not involved with any such terrorist attack against the U.S.:

The Pentagon, acting under instructions from Vice President Dick Cheney's office, has tasked the United States Strategic Command (STRATCOM) with drawing up a contingency plan to be employed in response to another 9/11-type terrorist attack on the United States. The plan includes a large-scale air assault on Iran employing both conventional and tactical nuclear weapons. Within Iran there are more than 450 major strategic targets, including numerous suspected nuclear-weapons-program development sites. Many of the targets are hardened or are deep underground and could not be taken out by conventional weapons, hence the nuclear option. As in the case of Iraq, the response is not conditional on Iran actually being involved in the act of terrorism directed against the United States. Several senior Air Force officers involved in the planning are reportedly appalled at the implications of what they are doing – that Iran is being set up for an unprovoked nuclear attack – but no one is prepared to damage his career by posing any objections. <11>

more...

http://usa.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/17450
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 06:06 PM
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25. Why does this sound like the prelude to declaring martial law....
...for ANY and ALL reasons?
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sintax Donating Member (891 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 06:14 PM
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26. Need more nominations here, this matters- PNAC Deathcult in Motion
Gas shortages, at the very least very high prices, comin' up so the military can keep the fuel for its foreign excursions.

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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 06:31 PM
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27. This really isn't new...
The US drafted plans to counter a communist attack all through the cold war. But of course communism is no longer our enemy. The Berlin wall fell in 1989, effectively ending the "red scare" that was the basis for our foreign and domestic policy since WWII. But, we simply couldn't have no enemy at all, so "terrorism" was cultivated to replace "communism." Remember that the first WTC bombing occurred in 1993, scarcely four years after the fall of the Wall.

Can't make money in peacetime! Always got to have The Boogieman to keep The Bush Family and Cheney/Halliburton in the chips!

But really, don't you feel just a little bit scared?
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 07:08 PM
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28. Sounds like they're setting up for the next 9/11 fake terrorist attacks
so that they can go invade the country of their choice: Iran.

Please read the facts throughout this thread to see just how serious this situation is:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4252778
Thread title: Three extremely important threads on Iran nukes & the Bush agenda

And if you haven't yet heard it, liten to David Griffin's historic Madison lecture on the Bush Administration's complicity in the 9/11 attacks:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x39690
Thread title: David Ray Griffin evidence Bush admin complicit in 9/11 - update & links
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-05 09:49 PM
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29. Hey--I thought we were fighting them over there so we
wouldn't have to fight them over.....oh never mind. :eyes:
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 10:48 AM
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30. kick
peace
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jarab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:28 AM
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31. kick
...O...
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:31 AM
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32. Pentagon devising scenarios for martial law in US
9 August 2005

According to a report published Monday by the Washington Post, the Pentagon has developed its first ever war plans for operations within the continental United States, in which terrorist attacks would be used as the justification for imposing martial law on cities, regions or the entire country.

The front-page article cites sources working at the headquarters of the military’s Northern Command (Northcom), located in Colorado Springs, Colorado. The plans themselves are classified, but “officers who drafted the plans” gave details to Post reporter Bradley Graham, who was recently given a tour of Northcom headquarters at Peterson Air Force Base. The article thus appears to be a deliberate leak conducted for the purpose of accustoming the American population to the prospect of military rule.

According to Graham, “the new plans provide for what several senior officers acknowledged is the likelihood that the military will have to take charge in some situations, especially when dealing with mass-casualty attacks that could quickly overwhelm civilian resources.”

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2005/aug2005/mart-a09.shtml
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electricray Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:31 AM
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33. Great. Just fucking Great. n/t
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:31 AM
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35. They wouldn't be planning for it
if they thought it wasn't going to happen It's almost like they know somethings going to happen.;(
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jayctravis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:31 AM
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45. Kinda like they were rehearsing a terrorist attack
on the DAY we got attacked?
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drhilarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:31 AM
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34. wow.
nt.
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:31 AM
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36. Not like we didn't see that coming
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:31 AM
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37. Martial Law: 9/11 Rise of the Police State


Alex Jones' new documentary. Martial Law: 9/11 Rise of the Police State exposes the high-tech control grid that is being set up across America Out of the ashes of the September 11th tragedy, a dark empire of war and tyranny has risen. The Constitution has been shredded and America is now a Police State. This film exposes not just who was behind the 9-11 attacks, but the roots and history of its orchestrators. The entire documentary is 2 hours and 35 minutes in duration but has been spit into 3 parts.

Part-I
http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/alex_jones_-_martial_law_911__1_of_3_.wmv
Part-II
http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/alex_jones_-_martial_law_911__2_of_3_.wmv
Part-III
http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/martial_law_p03_bb.wmv

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loftycity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:31 AM
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57. Great video absolutely the best ..great historical footage and info..nt
Edited on Wed Aug-10-05 01:11 AM by loftycity
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doodadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:31 AM
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38. Just how much of our military is still in the U.S.?
I mean, how can you have martial law in this country if all National Guard and active military are in Iraq/Afghanistan?
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:31 AM
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48. I read, earlier today, that they are planning to pull all the troops,
as well as civilian employees, out of the other bases around the world. This far out numbers the size of the deployment in Iraq and Afghanistan. Our children and grandchildren will curse us.
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LiberalVoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:31 AM
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39. I just posted a reply in another thread but it fits here too...
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:31 AM
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40.  as per PNAC

another " Pearl Harbor moment " that would allow them to fully realize their ambitions of total control.

my mother used to speak of martial law as it was in Hawaii after Pearl Harbor. I'm sure this time around would be much much worse, giving the cabal a chance to round up any 'dissidents'.
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:31 AM
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49. Also they need to institute a draft
There will be widespread hostility toward forced conscription-- unless the PNAC-ers can agitate people with a major terrorist act on American soil.

We'll catch some Iranian and/or Syrian perpetrators-- then watch the fun begin!

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:31 AM
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41. Anybody who has been payiing attetntion
knew this a while back
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:31 AM
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42.  yes i did read this a few months ago also

don't remember where.
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puerco-bellies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:31 AM
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43. Maybe a good reason NOT to try to enlist only Freeper types
A good population mix will keep U.S. military rank and file from shooting their own.
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:31 AM
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56. Forget it. They will shoot no matter where they stand
Edited on Wed Aug-10-05 01:11 AM by neweurope
politically. They have shot before. Military will shoot when ordered, period. It's a very, very rare instance in history where the military has turned around the cannons...

-------------------

Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:31 AM
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44. Just imagine what would happen if within a couple weeks of each
other an attack on Iran and several Plame idictments against HIGH ranking officials. What would the populace do? Would that be enough to get everyone out into the streets? Is this what they are preparing for? Maybe I should get some sleep.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:31 AM
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46. much to do about nothing.
these scenarios are devised every so often in the pentagon or the war college. did you know powell and several others submitted a paper to the war college on the overthrow of the us government that was a dictatorship? no wonder the bush klan did not trust powell.
http://www.carlisle.army.mil/
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:31 AM
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50. that sounds pretty spooky; are those online anywhere?
It would be interesting to see how people react to them.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:31 AM
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47. America was not established for Military rule
One of the breakdowns is Healthcare

Healthcare workers are not government employees its a really interesting scenario here!!! In other countries with socialized medicine the workers are government. Then the government can order them but in this climate I guess Healthcare would be drafted!!!

I can see quite a massive exodus thats for sure!!! could they stop it??? I don't know???
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:31 AM
Response to Reply #32
51. First ever? BullShit. There were war plans for that in the
60's.
What would be a first would be NorthCom run it... that would be a disaster.
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:31 AM
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54. Thanks for pointing that out.
Edited on Wed Aug-10-05 01:01 AM by Stand and Fight
I am suspicious of this article. Especially since it did not bother to post direct links to the other articles it refers to in the text. I will take this with a grain of salt, but I would not put it pass this administration to be doing this or something far worse. Can everyone say FEMA?
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:31 AM
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52. time to flee the country for my life
It doesn't really matter if it's Cheney's false flag mass casualty attack or the idiot holocaust they're plotting to set up afterward, I don't really want to be incinerated by these fascists.
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davekriss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:31 AM
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59. Chalmers Johnson on CSPAn 6 to 9 months ago...
...when asked what Americans should do ahead of the emerging behemoth of overt militarist-corpo-fascist state, answered "setup your outs now, while you still can; buy that condo in Vancouver, apply for dual citizenship". Chilling (and his The Sorrows of Empire is not a bad book either).
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:31 AM
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60. interesting, is the footage or a transcript online?
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davekriss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:36 AM
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62. It was at the Q&A of the cspan2 bookclub...
...forum for Chalmers' The Sorrows of Empire, broadcast sometim between January and March of this year. It might be available online if they archive shows with easy public consumption.

Around the same time, Bookclub held a forum for Noam Chomsky's Hegemony or Survival, equally chilling.
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cssmall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:31 AM
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53. The next attack will be the reasons for this and the attack on Iran.
But, remember, at least right now, we have our 2nd admendment rights and by God, if they draft me, it will be the worst mistake they make. I come from a long line of people who fought for the freedom of the country, including the ones who fought against illegal wars. So, I'll tell the adopted son when I see him, I'm actually carrying on a legacy that means something more than accepting a buyout.
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:31 AM
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55. To me it seems inconceivable that martial law-plans have not
been existing always. Every country known to me has them. I'm sure you must have had some kind of plans.

So this really "appears to be a deliberate leak conducted for the purpose of accustoming the American population to the prospect of military rule."

Fasten your seatbelts.

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Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:31 AM
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58. Ok. Breathing slow.
Shit. Knew it could happen but this is still scary.
Live free or die. I think ( I do have a baby...arg.)
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nookiemonster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:40 AM
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63. Relax. These assholes would fuck up a soup sandwich.
They're totally incompetent. Their track record for processing logical thought...is..well...lackluster.

Even if it was possible, I think the states would fight it. By that I mean, state and local governments.


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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:42 AM
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64. Hype! Distraction! Fear!
Sorry; it got to me there for a second. I'm ok now. Thanks.
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raysr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 01:31 AM
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61. This goes all
Edited on Wed Aug-10-05 01:31 AM by raysr
the way back when Reagan was gov of California. The civil rights movements and protests against the VietNam War. They must be afraid that the SHIT is about to hit the fan. That Bush knew ALL about 9-11 and probably was in on the planning along with AIPAC to get rid of all Isreals enemys in the region and secure all the oil.
http://www.reachm.com/amstreet/archives/2004/07/12/continuity-of-government-republican-style/
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 06:46 AM
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68. are you sure the washington post
was behind this story I cant find it at the wash.post....Can you verify this story as being true?? thanks
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 02:57 AM
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67. kick
One more canary drops dead...
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