Journey for justice ( Maui Kamehameha Schools)

[The Sushi Bandit]

http://www.mauinews.com/story.aspx?id=11253

KAHULUI – A Native Hawaiian originally from Molokai, 58-year-old Olga Kepa said she had never seen such a large crowd of Hawaiians gather as the one she saw at the Kahului rally in support of Kamehameha Schools.

“This is the biggest crowd I’ve ever seen,” Kepa said.

Now a Wailuku resident, Kepa was among an estimated 2,000 people who came together in prayer and in protest of a federal court ruling that struck down the Kamehameha Schools’ policy of giving admissions preference to Native Hawaiians.

“We are on an arduous journey for justice,” Kamehameha Schools Maui Headmaster Rod Chamberlain said at the onset of the rally held Saturday on the lawn of Maui Community College.

[Hekate]

1. Keep us posted, Sushi. Mahalo

[tritsofme]

2. Can someone explain to me the legal difference between this school

and a private "country club" that requires one must be WASP male to join?

I understand the differences in intent, but not in principle.

[nofurylike]

3. did you read the article? eom

[tritsofme]

5. I did.

And I've read a few articles about the subject over the past few days.

I understand the rationale behind the school and their admissions policy, but by letter of law it still seems like discrimination.

But when we strip this case down to the basics, I don't see it as much different than a private country club saying that they only allow WASP men in their membership, but if they don't meet their quota of new members for that year, they may consider other applicants.

[nofurylike]

7. no way to express this. heartsick. can only suggest you read it again.

but this time, without looking to justify your pre-position.

it is clearly expressed in there. better than i could say it.

"“God Bless America, Steal the Land, Now Kill the Race”

could you really possibly see wasp men's club in that light?!


i am replying out of belief you wouldn't be at DU if.....

oops. shouldn't, should i?


peace...

[northzax]

10. you didn't explain how it fails to violate

the Civil Rights Act. Can you do that? Legally? $5 says you can't. Private educational institutions cannot discriminate based on race. Even traditionally black colleges admit whites, if they're qualified.

[nofurylike]

12. the articles The Sushi Bandit linked in post #9 of this thread discuss

that question, very well.

in Hawai'i, people of every ethnicity recognize there is a difference, except the mother of that one student.

hopefully that difference will be successfully argued on appeal.

i can not state those issues adequately, but those linked articles very much clarify them.

here's y' $5

there will be more about it as the appeal moves forward. i hope it will be posted on DU.


peace

[nofurylike]

4. mahalo. huge. eom

[Jara sang]

6. Anybody notice any similarities to the Akaka Bill?

Has anyone noticed any similarities between this and the recent passage of the Akaka Bill? I think this is the federal government trying to get it's hands on the Bishop trust and Bishop estates which has huge land holdings in the islands. The timing of this with the Akaka bill tells me at least that much.

[nofurylike]

8. it does seem to have that intent, among others. since it draws a line

between pre- and post-western contact - that is, pre- and post-illegal overthrow by the west - it would serve that purpose. but it seems more broadly threatening than that.

dreadful.

since the u.s. was just beginning to correct some slightest bit of the immeasuarble devastation it's done Kanaka Maoli (native hawai'ians) and ka 'aina - the precious land....

grieve


peace

*edit to correct that it was an illegal overthrow of a sovereign nation by the u.s.

[The Sushi Bandit]

9. Here are some Hawaiian newspaper links you can read

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050807/NEWS01/508070340

http://www.mauinews.com/story.aspx?id=11253

Bottom line is this. Since our government dose not recognize Hawaiians like native Americans, Kamehameha falls under American law which prohibits descrimination based on race. Kamehameha Schools must adhere to federal civil rights statutes, and the judges ruled that its admissions policy is illegal because they operate “as an absolute bar to admission of those of the nonpreferred race.”

Without self determination as an indigenous people they are just Americans … no more… no less. The “Akaka” bill for Hawaiian recognition has been stalled in the senate again and has been for years. The repukes keep blocking it.

[nofurylike]

11. thank you for the links! excellent articles and information. eom

[The Sushi Bandit]

13. Thanks! Kick this issue

[ninkasi]

15. So the Pacific Ocean

is the difference between the genocide we committed on Native Americans, and the genocide we committed on Hawaiians? I see no difference, myself. The law does not always serve justice.

[proud2BlibKansan]

17. What does genocide have to do with it?

Bottom line - the admission policy discriminates against non-Hawaiians. US law says that is illegal. And yes, you are right, the law does not always serve justice.

[nofurylike]

14. kick! eom

[The Sushi Bandit]

16. 7:15am eastern 1:15am hawaiian time KICK!!!!!

[Cha]

18. "Respect the Legacy"..

"Ron Natividad, a Native Hawaiian, said he normally doesn’t attend public rallies. He made an exception Saturday, even rolling out a handmade sign that featured a brown mat spray-painted with the message: “Respect the Legacy.”

That says it all..how would a kid feel who had to go to court to get into a school where the originator designated it for Hawaiian children?